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> Hungarians have the fewest rights in this country. They intentionally positively discriminate the Roma population to spark a civil war. Divide and conquer. S

> Hungarians have the fewest rights in this country. They intentionally positively discriminate the Roma population to spark a civil war. Divide and conquer. So, government is positively discriminating Roma population now just to try to fix the problem that Roma population was systematically discriminated for decades (centuries), and they can't possibly go out of mud on their own. It's sad that some Hungarians see that as a problem. > There is also an ongoing international propaganda about how "antisemitic" are we. Nothing is further than the truth, there are 0 jewish people beaten per year. But this will be a good excuse to further decrease our liberty. No Jews, no racism, isn't it? Maybe there are 0 beaten Jewish people per year now, but only because there were 0 Jewish people left in Hungary after the WW2, where democratically elected Hungarian government got rid of them. I don't say that your government isn't corrupt, but whenever I hear talks about "preserving the nation", "Roma and Jews has more right in my country than me" and similar claims, my nazi detector starts to alert. EDIT: s/discriminated/systematically discriminated/

friendly_chap 13y ago
Your nazi detector is carefully planted in you by the media. They try to turn off immune system of the nations this way. History is always being written by the winners.
- CaptainZapp 13y ago
  Bub, you sound very close to a Holocaust denier. Just thought I let you know.
  - friendly_chap 13y ago
    I would never do that, that's a felony. I am a law abiding citizen. They can send me to prison for 3 years for that. Does anyone know anyway what historical event I can't deny beside the holocaust? Just so I know, I don't want to break the law!
    - VMG 13y ago
      > I would never do that, that's a felony. The fact that there is massive amount of evidence is not reason enough for you?
    - hjrnunes 13y ago
      > The fact that there is massive amount of evidence is not reason enough for you? Well, it certainly wasn't for the people that created and passed this law in multiple european countries... Why should it be for him, then?
marcosdumay 13y ago
Well, I know nothing about Hungary, but one thing I can say for sure. Positive discrimination is discrimination. If you want people to be equal, they must be equal. The moment you make people different, they are not equal anymore, and you are discriminating. Positive discrimination doesn't fix wealth unequality, because it fights no cause of unequality. Doesn't reduce the etinic hate, it's the other way around, it causes more of it. And doesn't integrate groups. There are policies that actualy solve each of those problems, but they are not usefull for dividing the population... and for some reason lots of governemnts prefer a non-solution that does that.
friendly_chap 13y ago
> Maybe there are 0 beaten Jewish people per year now, but only because there were 0 Jewish people left in Hungary after the WW2 You don't know what are you talking about. "Today, the population of Jews live in Hungary is around 120,000". [1] [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Hungary http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Hungary
Vivtek 13y ago
Not to attack your larger argument, but the Hungarian Jews were not entirely exterminated, although an attempt was certainly made. My wife's father's family is ethnically Jewish, some of them survived the concentration camps, and they stayed in Budapest after the war. There is a synagogue in Budapest. So tone down your own rhetoric a little, if you would.
- levosmetalo 13y ago
  Well, the Hungarian government in the past certainly did its best to the cause. Just take a look at the numbers here http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Hungary http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Hungar... The fact that Hungary wasn't punished nearly as much as Germany for their crimes in ww2 doesn't help either.
  - Vivtek 13y ago
    Sure, because punishment of nations always helps. You're still wrong when you say there are no Jews here.

friendly_chap 13y ago

Your nazi detector is carefully planted in you by the media. They try to turn off immune system of the nations this way. History is always being written by the winners.

CaptainZapp 13y ago
Bub, you sound very close to a Holocaust denier. Just thought I let you know.
- friendly_chap 13y ago
  I would never do that, that's a felony. I am a law abiding citizen. They can send me to prison for 3 years for that. Does anyone know anyway what historical event I can't deny beside the holocaust? Just so I know, I don't want to break the law!
  - VMG 13y ago
    > I would never do that, that's a felony. The fact that there is massive amount of evidence is not reason enough for you?
  - hjrnunes 13y ago
    > The fact that there is massive amount of evidence is not reason enough for you? Well, it certainly wasn't for the people that created and passed this law in multiple european countries... Why should it be for him, then?

marcosdumay 13y ago

Well, I know nothing about Hungary, but one thing I can say for sure. Positive discrimination is discrimination. If you want people to be equal, they must be equal. The moment you make people different, they are not equal anymore, and you are discriminating. Positive discrimination doesn't fix wealth unequality, because it fights no cause of unequality. Doesn't reduce the etinic hate, it's the other way around, it causes more of it. And doesn't integrate groups. There are policies that actualy solve each of those problems, but they are not usefull for dividing the population... and for some reason lots of governemnts prefer a non-solution that does that.

friendly_chap 13y ago

> Maybe there are 0 beaten Jewish people per year now, but only because there were 0 Jewish people left in Hungary after the WW2 You don't know what are you talking about. "Today, the population of Jews live in Hungary is around 120,000". [1] [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Hungary http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Hungary

Vivtek 13y ago

Not to attack your larger argument, but the Hungarian Jews were not entirely exterminated, although an attempt was certainly made. My wife's father's family is ethnically Jewish, some of them survived the concentration camps, and they stayed in Budapest after the war. There is a synagogue in Budapest. So tone down your own rhetoric a little, if you would.

levosmetalo 13y ago
Well, the Hungarian government in the past certainly did its best to the cause. Just take a look at the numbers here http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Hungary http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Hungar... The fact that Hungary wasn't punished nearly as much as Germany for their crimes in ww2 doesn't help either.
- Vivtek 13y ago
  Sure, because punishment of nations always helps. You're still wrong when you say there are no Jews here.