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"In Norway, privacy stands firm like the mighty mountains of Jotunheimen.". Let's not flatter ourselves too much: http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datalagringsdire
by brasetvik 13y ago
"In Norway, privacy stands firm like the mighty mountains of Jotunheimen.".
Let's not flatter ourselves too much: http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datalagringsdirektivet http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datalagringsdirektivet (in Norwegian, http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=no&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fno.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FDatalagringsdirektivet&act=url http://translate.google.com/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&pre...), or the less detailed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Retention_Directive http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_Retention_Directive
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- jeroen 13y ago(the now deleted parent wrote that the Data Retention Directive is an EU directive and that Norway is not part of the EU) That doesn't seem to stop them. 2nd paragraph of the translated WP article: In Norway DLD was adopted by the Parliament on 4 April 2011 . It was scheduled to take effect on 1 April 2012, but has been postponed several times. Ministry of Transport are now looking for that storage requirement comes into force on 1 January 2015.
- werid 13y agoNorway gets to implement many EU directives, thanks to being part of the European Economic Area.
- vidarh 13y agoIn fact we usually implement them quicker than most EU countries.
- Kimmono 13y agoDatalagringsdirektivet is not applicable for most providers in Norway, only the big carriers like Telenor, Telia-Sonera/Netcom and Tele2. The practical rule is that if you have a ASN-number (Data Center) and you provide the relevant services, then you need to follow it. The email service I work for, Runbox, is not. Probably not Jotta either.
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- jensen2k 13y agoAs mentioned in a comment on the post, The EU Data Retention Directive does not apply to cloud storage providers. Not yet at least.
- zokier 13y agoI don't think DLD/DRD is conflicting with the statements given in the post, as DLD only concerns itself with metadata (and yes, that can be harmful), and the article talks about the actual data. Both are important, but different, topics.
- brasetvik 13y agoI was more objecting the very marketing-y-and-not-very-truthy quote. That said, digging a bit more into Jottacloud does not make me any more likely to use the service, for anything I would be concerned to store at, say, Dropbox: Their FAQ is (intentionally?) vague. How do they encrypt stuff? "all datatraffic between your computer and Jottacloud is encrypted with 256 bits AES high grade encryption, which makes it virtually impossible for unauthorized persons to use the information being sent.". And then: "If you log into www.jottacloud.com it’s possible to download, view pictures and share files with friends and colleagues" Right, so they would have the keys anyway.
- e12e 13y agoWell, after reading Snowden's comments about what is available (everything) - it would seem that DLD goes hand in hand with storing all traffic for a limited time -- you would need help searching that to actually recover something.
- zokier 13y ago> DLD goes hand in hand with storing all traffic for a limited time Nope? From the linked translated wikipedia page: > Data that reveals the content of the communication must not be stored
- e12e 13y agoI meant - if you already, illegally store everything - that everything is problematic to search, and to store permanently. If you also, legally, through DLD store metadata, then that makes your illegally collected data more useful.
- qw 13y agoThey provide an English version here: http://www.jottacloud.com/its-your-stuff-guaranteed/ http://www.jottacloud.com/its-your-stuff-guaranteed/