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Citation? (preferably showing how widespread they are as well). (While I agree with your point, alarm bells go off when I read lists of 'events' with no refere

by Volpe 13y ago

Citation? (preferably showing how widespread they are as well). (While I agree with your point, alarm bells go off when I read lists of 'events' with no references)

DanBC 13y ago
I agree that references are nice. But then if someone is pushing an agenda it's easy for them to cherry pick the URLs they provide. So even if someone does provide references it's probably a good idea to use a search engine to check. Milk 2008: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal) (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7614083.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7614083.stm) Milk 2010: (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126255525849313997.html http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126255525849313997.html) Milk 2013: (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22088977 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22088977) Glow in dark pork: (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/8544851/China-goes-organic-after-years-of-glow-in-the-dark-pork-and-exploding-watermelons.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/8544851...) Waste oil from gutters outside restaurants repackaged and sold for consumption: (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/7971983/China-goes-organic-after-scandal-of-cooking-oil-from-sewers.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/7971983...)
- Volpe 13y ago
  None of those are "from the last few months". And all of them are (pro) western media (less reliable). In addition, it's seems non of them relate to China's intentional avoidance of modern technology in farming...
rrreese 13y ago
Here's an article about contaminated rice: http://rendezvous.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/05/20/cadmium-rice-is-chinas-latest-food-scandal/ http://rendezvous.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/05/20/cadmium-rice-...
seanmcdirmid 13y ago
Well, I'm living through it. We recently got chicken back in our work cafeteria after a couple of months without. Colleagues are still smuggling in milk powder from Hong Kong and other places abroad for their newborns, I think it's more illicit and expensive than cocaine now, but that might just be hyperbole. Rice is quite recent and the government is conducting nationwide soil tests. Pork is always problematic since those babies are basically general waste recycling machines, it's hard to figure out what the nongmin are feeding them. Not sure of anything specific though, eventually all these scares start blurring together and I just stop caring too much. Because agriculture is such a thankless job here, and gov regulation is weak, there is a lot of incentive for nongmin to cheat without much disincentive. And to be honest, the "industrialization farmed" or GMO food that many westerners are worried about....well, those are first world problems that we'd love to worry about instead.

by Volpe 13y ago

Citation? (preferably showing how widespread they are as well). (While I agree with your point, alarm bells go off when I read lists of 'events' with no references)

DanBC 13y ago

I agree that references are nice. But then if someone is pushing an agenda it's easy for them to cherry pick the URLs they provide. So even if someone does provide references it's probably a good idea to use a search engine to check. Milk 2008: (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Chinese_milk_scandal) (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7614083.stm http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/7614083.stm) Milk 2010: (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126255525849313997.html http://online.wsj.com/article/SB126255525849313997.html) Milk 2013: (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22088977 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-22088977) Glow in dark pork: (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/8544851/China-goes-organic-after-years-of-glow-in-the-dark-pork-and-exploding-watermelons.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/8544851...) Waste oil from gutters outside restaurants repackaged and sold for consumption: (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/7971983/China-goes-organic-after-scandal-of-cooking-oil-from-sewers.html http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/china/7971983...)

Volpe 13y ago
None of those are "from the last few months". And all of them are (pro) western media (less reliable). In addition, it's seems non of them relate to China's intentional avoidance of modern technology in farming...

rrreese 13y ago

Here's an article about contaminated rice: http://rendezvous.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/05/20/cadmium-rice-is-chinas-latest-food-scandal/ http://rendezvous.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/05/20/cadmium-rice-...

seanmcdirmid 13y ago

Well, I'm living through it. We recently got chicken back in our work cafeteria after a couple of months without. Colleagues are still smuggling in milk powder from Hong Kong and other places abroad for their newborns, I think it's more illicit and expensive than cocaine now, but that might just be hyperbole. Rice is quite recent and the government is conducting nationwide soil tests. Pork is always problematic since those babies are basically general waste recycling machines, it's hard to figure out what the nongmin are feeding them. Not sure of anything specific though, eventually all these scares start blurring together and I just stop caring too much. Because agriculture is such a thankless job here, and gov regulation is weak, there is a lot of incentive for nongmin to cheat without much disincentive. And to be honest, the "industrialization farmed" or GMO food that many westerners are worried about....well, those are first world problems that we'd love to worry about instead.