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I suspect the NSA and CIA remember the Cold War and still regard Germany to be an occupied US possession.
by Vivtek 13y ago
I suspect the NSA and CIA remember the Cold War and still regard Germany to be an occupied US possession.
- adventured 13y agoI think so long as the Germans allow the substantial US military occupation to continue, it's VERY likely much of the bureaucracy views Germany as a quasi-possession (ditto Japan and South Korea). The way the US regularly gets various major countries to dance upon command, probably just helps reinforce that view (eg the US directly threatening Britain in regards to leaving the EU).
- noinsight 13y ago> (eg the US directly threatening Britain in regards to leaving the EU) Can you clarify this, I haven't heard of it?
- jacquesm 13y agoDo the flip test: Would the US allow the Dutch, the Germans, the Belgians and the French to have military bases on US soil?
- mpyne 13y agoThey come over here and train all the time. If they had the numbers they probably could carve out a base within one of ours, or even a separate area. There is at least one U.K. facility home-based here in the U.S. in fact.
- jacquesm 13y agoIf you're talking about Nellis that's a US airbase with a few UK planes/pilots stationed there mostly for training purposes, which is clearly not the same thing.
- mpyne 13y agoI'm not talking about Nellis. Edit: I can't say what I am talking about, but I will say that we (the U.S.) ended up having to lease usage of the U.K. facility even though it was physically located here in the U.S. and protected by U.S. forces.
- bilbo0s 13y agoGuy... You're not inspiring the average American's confidence in the US Government.
- mpyne 13y agoSo? Inspiring confidence in the government is not my job, defense of the nation is.
- bilbo0s 13y agoThey are the same thing.
- mpyne 13y agoThey are not at all the same thing. In fact if Americans weren't in general wary of the government I'd be wondering who kidnapped all of America and replaced them sleeper cell aliens. There's no finer American pasttime than distrusting the government, it's right up there with chopping cherry trees and baseball.
- Vivtek 13y agoI don't see how your question follows from my post. If you intend to imply that I agree with the NSA that Germany is a US possession, then you're wrong. In the 80's I protested American occupation personally. However, it's useful to understand the mindset of the people in power in Washington. They really do regard everything as American soil. Finally, from a logical perspective, the Germans didn't allow US military bases; it was part of the post-war occupation accord. The French and the UK got their sectors, too, as did the Soviet Union.