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> Developers are now forever beholden to the big corporates. Not if FireFoxOS gets enough support http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/partners/ http://www.mo

> Developers are now forever beholden to the big corporates. Not if FireFoxOS gets enough support http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/partners/ http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/partners/

TylerE 13y ago
Yes, and if Diaspora replaces Facebook. Fat chance.
- michaelwww 13y ago
  About as much chance as Facebook replacing MySpace
  - eropple 13y ago
    No, it really isn't. Facebook offered something that users want that MySpace didn't. Diaspora offers nothing that users--not privacy advocates, users--want.
    - michaelwww 13y ago
      I was referring to FireFox OS competing with iOS or Android. It's a long shot. I don't know anything about Diaspora -- Facebook will probably do a FF OS version.
      - eropple 13y ago
        I realize what you were referring to. What does FirefoxOS provide that users want?
        michaelwww 13y ago
        It offers a solution to the problem indicated in the post. FireFox OS users can install apps without going through a store. The only thing that Mozilla will maintain control over are apps that use the phone portion of the device.
        eropple 13y ago
        Which can already be done on Android with zero problems--and which statistically-nobody cares about.
        rimantas 13y ago
        Because when you think about it installing the app not from app store is the problem, not the other way around.
    - dsrguru 13y ago
      Not nothing. It offers aspects, which allow you to group your friends into different categories so you can easily choose who to share what content with. Google found them useful -- at least enough to rename them circles...
      - antinitro 13y ago
        This is a very weak feature to be touting as a reason to move...
        dsrguru 13y ago
        Aspects were not the feature they touted as the reason to move. That would be decentralization. But the parent post said there were literally no features besides privacy, and I wanted to point out that that isn't strictly true.
        pbhjpbhj 13y ago
        Especially as you can share with self-defined groups in FB.
- selvan 13y ago
  What was the chance of FFx browser winning the browser race, when more than 95% computers already had IE pre-installed? With FFxOS, web designer and developers can leverage their web design & development skills. All system calls are exposed via javascript API (aka open Web APIs). See more details here (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox_OS https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox_OS)
  - rimantas 13y ago
    > What was the chance of FFx browser winning the browser > race, when more than 95% computers already had IE pre- > installed? Pretty good, because IE development has stopped and the team deisbandled. The situation in mobile OS market is nothing like that.
    - geon 13y ago
      Yes. It wasn't so much that FF was good (although it was), but that IE sucked so unbelievably hard. The difference made the switch a given for anyone with a passing understanding of computers.
catwell 13y ago
Firefox OS ? You mean that OS that basically doesn't allow to do anything at all outside of a browser? Mozilla has ranted about Microsoft restrictions preventing them from making a decent competing browser in WP8. Well, go make a competing browser in FFOS... Mozilla has tricked everybody into thinking "Web technologies" meant "open", but this is absolutely not true. Oh, but maybe it will at least solve distribution of apps you can make? Because, you know, everybody knows there will be no distinctions between apps installed from their store and other places, right? Yeah... Let me tell you how it actually works. Mozilla has finally figured that mobile security is hard, so they have decided to have permissions. There are two kinds of permissions. The first one is those that they think users can understand (for instance "use the camera"). For them, the device asks the user if they grant them, problem solved. And then there is the second kind of permissions, those that they think are too hard to explain to the average user. For instance, "make a request to another domain" (systemXHR). For those your app has to be in their app store and validated by Mozilla. Does that ring a bell? So no, Firefox OS is definitely not the answer. Android way is better on that front, actually. Another interesting project could be Sailfish.

> Developers are now forever beholden to the big corporates. Not if FireFoxOS gets enough support http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/partners/ http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/partners/

TylerE 13y ago

Yes, and if Diaspora replaces Facebook. Fat chance.

michaelwww 13y ago
About as much chance as Facebook replacing MySpace
- eropple 13y ago
  No, it really isn't. Facebook offered something that users want that MySpace didn't. Diaspora offers nothing that users--not privacy advocates, users--want.
  - michaelwww 13y ago
    I was referring to FireFox OS competing with iOS or Android. It's a long shot. I don't know anything about Diaspora -- Facebook will probably do a FF OS version.
    - eropple 13y ago
      I realize what you were referring to. What does FirefoxOS provide that users want?
      - michaelwww 13y ago
        It offers a solution to the problem indicated in the post. FireFox OS users can install apps without going through a store. The only thing that Mozilla will maintain control over are apps that use the phone portion of the device.
        eropple 13y ago
        Which can already be done on Android with zero problems--and which statistically-nobody cares about.
        rimantas 13y ago
        Because when you think about it installing the app not from app store is the problem, not the other way around.
  - dsrguru 13y ago
    Not nothing. It offers aspects, which allow you to group your friends into different categories so you can easily choose who to share what content with. Google found them useful -- at least enough to rename them circles...
    - antinitro 13y ago
      This is a very weak feature to be touting as a reason to move...
      - dsrguru 13y ago
        Aspects were not the feature they touted as the reason to move. That would be decentralization. But the parent post said there were literally no features besides privacy, and I wanted to point out that that isn't strictly true.
      - pbhjpbhj 13y ago
        Especially as you can share with self-defined groups in FB.
selvan 13y ago
What was the chance of FFx browser winning the browser race, when more than 95% computers already had IE pre-installed? With FFxOS, web designer and developers can leverage their web design & development skills. All system calls are exposed via javascript API (aka open Web APIs). See more details here (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox_OS https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Firefox_OS)
- rimantas 13y ago
  > What was the chance of FFx browser winning the browser > race, when more than 95% computers already had IE pre- > installed? Pretty good, because IE development has stopped and the team deisbandled. The situation in mobile OS market is nothing like that.
  - geon 13y ago
    Yes. It wasn't so much that FF was good (although it was), but that IE sucked so unbelievably hard. The difference made the switch a given for anyone with a passing understanding of computers.

catwell 13y ago

Firefox OS ? You mean that OS that basically doesn't allow to do anything at all outside of a browser? Mozilla has ranted about Microsoft restrictions preventing them from making a decent competing browser in WP8. Well, go make a competing browser in FFOS... Mozilla has tricked everybody into thinking "Web technologies" meant "open", but this is absolutely not true. Oh, but maybe it will at least solve distribution of apps you can make? Because, you know, everybody knows there will be no distinctions between apps installed from their store and other places, right? Yeah... Let me tell you how it actually works. Mozilla has finally figured that mobile security is hard, so they have decided to have permissions. There are two kinds of permissions. The first one is those that they think users can understand (for instance "use the camera"). For them, the device asks the user if they grant them, problem solved. And then there is the second kind of permissions, those that they think are too hard to explain to the average user. For instance, "make a request to another domain" (systemXHR). For those your app has to be in their app store and validated by Mozilla. Does that ring a bell? So no, Firefox OS is definitely not the answer. Android way is better on that front, actually. Another interesting project could be Sailfish.