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I actually downgraded back to v5 because of the terrible changes they made to Web Inspector in v6, so I'm pretty annoyed that they didn't even mention it when i

I actually downgraded back to v5 because of the terrible changes they made to Web Inspector in v6, so I'm pretty annoyed that they didn't even mention it when introducing the new version -- at a developers' conference, no less!

othermaciej 13y ago
It's not in the keynote, but if you get the Developer Preview you can see what's new.
suyash 13y ago
Safari 6.x is jam packed with new web inspector capabilities. What are you talking about?
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- MBCook 13y ago
  It's more capable, unfortunately the interface is rather inscrutable. It's a bunch of little tiny icons with no context you have to guess at. When I have a lot of work to do debugging something, I switch over to Chrome which still has the old style layout, because I find it much easier to use.
  - malandrew 13y ago
    I too agree that the tiny icons are beyond worthless.
  - suyash 13y ago
    yeah the UI is much different. I read somewhere apple is trying to keep the UI consistent among XCode debugger and Safari debugger. Notice, they have almost the same UI design.
    - MBCook 13y ago
      That's true, it is somewhat similar with the XCode interface. I'd rather they switch the XCode interface to be more like Safari 5 had. The interface in XCode isn't bad. My big problem is that you can't view source any more, it's crammed in that panel. The list of requests? Crammed in that panel. JS console? Inspecting elements? All crammed in there. I always feel light I'm fighting to find what I want instead of switching between things I might need.
      - suyash 13y ago
        This year's WWDC they broke down how to use the debugger and some advanced tips (2 sessions that you can watch online: https://developer.apple.com/wwdc/videos/ https://developer.apple.com/wwdc/videos/). Btw, new Safari seems to have changed the UI again, this time for better the icons are bigger now :)
JacksonGariety 13y ago
You'll love 7.0 then! The tools save all the robust features added in 6.0, but they sent a designer to go over them again in 7.0 so it's pretty and powerful now. Here's a screenshot of me running the Safari 7.0 dev tools in the multi-monitor space: http://cl.ly/PYL4 http://cl.ly/PYL4

othermaciej 13y ago

It's not in the keynote, but if you get the Developer Preview you can see what's new.

suyash 13y ago

Safari 6.x is jam packed with new web inspector capabilities. What are you talking about?

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MBCook 13y ago
It's more capable, unfortunately the interface is rather inscrutable. It's a bunch of little tiny icons with no context you have to guess at. When I have a lot of work to do debugging something, I switch over to Chrome which still has the old style layout, because I find it much easier to use.
- malandrew 13y ago
  I too agree that the tiny icons are beyond worthless.
- suyash 13y ago
  yeah the UI is much different. I read somewhere apple is trying to keep the UI consistent among XCode debugger and Safari debugger. Notice, they have almost the same UI design.
  - MBCook 13y ago
    That's true, it is somewhat similar with the XCode interface. I'd rather they switch the XCode interface to be more like Safari 5 had. The interface in XCode isn't bad. My big problem is that you can't view source any more, it's crammed in that panel. The list of requests? Crammed in that panel. JS console? Inspecting elements? All crammed in there. I always feel light I'm fighting to find what I want instead of switching between things I might need.
    - suyash 13y ago
      This year's WWDC they broke down how to use the debugger and some advanced tips (2 sessions that you can watch online: https://developer.apple.com/wwdc/videos/ https://developer.apple.com/wwdc/videos/). Btw, new Safari seems to have changed the UI again, this time for better the icons are bigger now :)

JacksonGariety 13y ago

You'll love 7.0 then! The tools save all the robust features added in 6.0, but they sent a designer to go over them again in 7.0 so it's pretty and powerful now. Here's a screenshot of me running the Safari 7.0 dev tools in the multi-monitor space: http://cl.ly/PYL4 http://cl.ly/PYL4