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Define: after We're at the very beginning of the scandal. It largely remains speculation. Until some actual facts come to light, it doesn't make a lot of sense
by mvkel 13y ago
Define: after
We're at the very beginning of the scandal. It largely remains speculation. Until some actual facts come to light, it doesn't make a lot of sense to change.
- javert 13y agoMy opinion is that it didn't make any sense to assume total surveillance _wasn't_ already happening, _before_ the scandal broke.
- mikeash 13y agoBy far the most surprising thing about this stuff is that everyone is surprised by it.
- cranefly 13y agoWhat's wrong with these people, don't they watch homeland?
- lemming 13y agoI think people (including me) have been surprised by the scope of it rather than that it's happening.
- plorkyeran 13y agoI was mostly surprised by that the official response was "fuck the Constitution" rather than denying that the monitoring was happening.
- javert 13y agoThat's been the official response for decades. (Sidenote: most Americans agree with that sentiment.)
- mikeash 13y agoI just assumed they have been spying on everyone since at least the warrantless wiretapping thing from a decade ago, if not longer.
- Zigurd 13y agoThe story of the Emperor's New Clothes is not a story about a naked emperor. He was naked all along. Everyone could see he was naked. Yet nobody spoke of it. It is about how one unsophisticated, unvested, powerless person pointed out the fact that everyone up to that point had been ignoring. From then on, nobody could ignore it. That is what we are experiencing now.