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But a lot of people are claiming (rightly) that general knowledge that these car systems have vulnerabilities is widespread. So you have a device that can open

But a lot of people are claiming (rightly) that general knowledge that these car systems have vulnerabilities is widespread. So you have a device that can open random car doors in seconds? Do you know where to get one? Do you know anyone who has one? The police apparently don't (and the police almost certainly know far more about crimes and how they are performed than you and most other HNers do). A guy who specializes in car electronics exploits doesn't. So yes, this is a mystery. The counter-argument seems to be some variation of the too-common world-weary-haughtiness that spreads like an infection on HN. Bank closes at night like always. The next morning the manager arrives and finds everything seemingly as it was, but when they look in the safe all of the money missing. Would that qualify as a mystery? Even though people have been robbing banks for centuries, even breaking into safes? Yes, of course it would, though I'm sure there'll be that guy who'll point out the obvious that somehow someone got in the safe.

mindcrime 13y ago
So you have a device that can open random car doors in seconds? Do you know where to get one? Do you know anyone who has one? No, and I haven't claimed to do so. You're just setting up straw-men and attacking them now, and I don't know for what purpose. I've already said that I was talking in terms of a general sentiment that I think I detected in TFA, and not the specifics of this batch of incidents.
joe_the_user 13y ago
open random car doors You've been at this "random car" thing over the whole thread. But there no indication that these thieves can steal random cars in the sense of any car they choose. Thieves have stolen particular cars and the cops might not know the connecting thread but there's no situation where the thieves passed a "show us a random car and we'll use our device to steal it" challenge and that would be the kind of hard evidence you'd need for a "these guys can steel any car" rhetoric.
- corresation 13y ago
  The police are concerned. Random self-proclaimed experts on HN say it's no big deal. But how about Honda -- do you have a remote door unlock exploit that can do what is being discussed on just Honda vehicles?
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mindcrime 13y ago

So you have a device that can open random car doors in seconds? Do you know where to get one? Do you know anyone who has one? No, and I haven't claimed to do so. You're just setting up straw-men and attacking them now, and I don't know for what purpose. I've already said that I was talking in terms of a general sentiment that I think I detected in TFA, and not the specifics of this batch of incidents.

joe_the_user 13y ago

open random car doors You've been at this "random car" thing over the whole thread. But there no indication that these thieves can steal random cars in the sense of any car they choose. Thieves have stolen particular cars and the cops might not know the connecting thread but there's no situation where the thieves passed a "show us a random car and we'll use our device to steal it" challenge and that would be the kind of hard evidence you'd need for a "these guys can steel any car" rhetoric.

corresation 13y ago
The police are concerned. Random self-proclaimed experts on HN say it's no big deal. But how about Honda -- do you have a remote door unlock exploit that can do what is being discussed on just Honda vehicles?
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