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Innovation and success is usually met with resistance. Resistance that's caused by the companies/individuals whose interest it's hurting. The one's I think lobb

Innovation and success is usually met with resistance. Resistance that's caused by the companies/individuals whose interest it's hurting. The one's I think lobbying against Tesla are the National Automobile Dealers Association (the middle men - link below). Even though they're is 2 sides of this argument (ex. it benefits the end consumer by reducing costs :: it'll kill jobs at dealerships if manufactures follow suit), a company that refuses to innovate or change with their industry will fail...or in this case lobby politicians to block Tesla's success. FYI: Nothing is stopping used car dealers from selling a "like new, 1 owner, low miles" Tesla in Texas ;) http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-10-23/dealer-group-leaving-tesla-retail-challenge-to-states http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-10-23/dealer-group-lea...

hkmurakami 13y ago
Come to think of it, this is the same dynamic in the publishing vs ebook industry. Middlemen (bookstores / publishers / printers) are being obsoleted by a player with brand trust, unique value proposition and a method of direct delivery.
- quackerhacker 13y ago
  I agree! Innovation drives businesses and society to advance. To summarize the needs (or in this case, benefit) of the many should outweigh the few. Ebooks helped people read more I think and publishers to cut printing costs and ultimately benefited the consumer. Music in iTunes, Pandora, and Spotify, I think I remember reading that piracy was down for the music industry. Tesla helps the environment and the end consumer by cutting a useless middle men. They may be out of jobs (if they're ignorant...lol, have you even haggled with a dealer), but new jobs are always created with innovation!
chii 13y ago
Jobs that are obsolete _should_ be killed. Because the cost of having that job when a more efficient method exists to produce the job's result means wastage if the job is kept. Sure it sucks to be a car dealer if this goes down, but that's the price of progress.
btian 13y ago
Email is killing USPS jobs, so should emails be banned? Exactly, and nothing is stopping independent dealers from buying new cars from Tesla and selling to consumers with a markup if they're so sure that their service is as valuable as they claim.
- quackerhacker 13y ago
  Ever wondered what dealers get cars for? I had got my used car dealer license JUST to cut out the middle man and find out, even though it's expired now, I still have access to the ACTUAL SALES results for the dealer only auctions. Below is the link to the Dealer-Only auction post sales result in the bay area. Mark up is crazy! http://simplemike.com/assets/Manheim-PostSaleResults.pdf http://simplemike.com/assets/Manheim-PostSaleResults.pdf
  - quackerhacker 13y ago
    I notice alot of you guys checking out the link above, reply or vote this up so people know it's NOT link bait.
  - HorizonXP 13y ago
    I'm currently looking for a used car in the Bay actually, any advice for how to beat the system and get the best bang for my buck?
    - quackerhacker 13y ago
      Craigslist and diligence. The only reason you should EVER go to a dealer is if you need financing and have bad credit. Aside from that, meet people, show interest in a vehicle, then negotiate (never try talking people down over the phone or by email - it's rude).

hkmurakami 13y ago

Come to think of it, this is the same dynamic in the publishing vs ebook industry. Middlemen (bookstores / publishers / printers) are being obsoleted by a player with brand trust, unique value proposition and a method of direct delivery.

quackerhacker 13y ago
I agree! Innovation drives businesses and society to advance. To summarize the needs (or in this case, benefit) of the many should outweigh the few. Ebooks helped people read more I think and publishers to cut printing costs and ultimately benefited the consumer. Music in iTunes, Pandora, and Spotify, I think I remember reading that piracy was down for the music industry. Tesla helps the environment and the end consumer by cutting a useless middle men. They may be out of jobs (if they're ignorant...lol, have you even haggled with a dealer), but new jobs are always created with innovation!

chii 13y ago

Jobs that are obsolete _should_ be killed. Because the cost of having that job when a more efficient method exists to produce the job's result means wastage if the job is kept. Sure it sucks to be a car dealer if this goes down, but that's the price of progress.

btian 13y ago

Email is killing USPS jobs, so should emails be banned? Exactly, and nothing is stopping independent dealers from buying new cars from Tesla and selling to consumers with a markup if they're so sure that their service is as valuable as they claim.

quackerhacker 13y ago
Ever wondered what dealers get cars for? I had got my used car dealer license JUST to cut out the middle man and find out, even though it's expired now, I still have access to the ACTUAL SALES results for the dealer only auctions. Below is the link to the Dealer-Only auction post sales result in the bay area. Mark up is crazy! http://simplemike.com/assets/Manheim-PostSaleResults.pdf http://simplemike.com/assets/Manheim-PostSaleResults.pdf
- quackerhacker 13y ago
  I notice alot of you guys checking out the link above, reply or vote this up so people know it's NOT link bait.
- HorizonXP 13y ago
  I'm currently looking for a used car in the Bay actually, any advice for how to beat the system and get the best bang for my buck?
  - quackerhacker 13y ago
    Craigslist and diligence. The only reason you should EVER go to a dealer is if you need financing and have bad credit. Aside from that, meet people, show interest in a vehicle, then negotiate (never try talking people down over the phone or by email - it's rude).