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A conspiracy? Tell us more!

by ExpiredLink 13y ago

Dylan16807 13y ago
Are you mocking the idea of one single person being undercover by calling it a 'conspiracy'?
- tinco 13y ago
  No he's mocking the idea that the FBI sanctioned the attacks. As far as I can tell, all major hacks by lulzsec predate the conversion of Sabu, but even if the FBI had control of Sabu before some of the attacks, that does not mean the FBI sanctioned them. At best the FBI decided it was more important to catch these people than it was to prevent the leaking of some cc's.
  - Dylan16807 13y ago
    It depends on your definition of 'sanctioned'.
  - clobber 13y ago
    > As far as I can tell, all major hacks by lulzsec predate the conversion of Sabu According to wiki, "He later turned informant for the FBI, working with the agency for over ten months to aid them in identifying other hackers from Lulzsec and related groups" The CIA's website went down June 15th, 2011 (towards the end of the LulzSec campaign) - definitely while Sabu was working for the FBI. 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hector_Xavier_Monsegur http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hector_Xavier_Monsegur 2. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2659326 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2659326
- brokenparser 13y ago
  Are you trying to downplay rumours of a conspiracy by mocking the idea that it might exist?
  - Dylan16807 13y ago
    No, but that's a tempting idea...
    - aclevernickname 13y ago
      so, yes?
      - Dylan16807 13y ago
        :3c
clobber 13y ago
Not sure where you're going with this. Care to explain?
- sliverstorm 13y ago
  Speculative translation of your parent: "I've had it just about up to here with inane conspiracy theories about every corner of government including the DMV and the Census Bureau, but please do give me one more!"
  - clobber 13y ago
    Yes, because domestic spying agencies (or their controlling entities) couldn't possibly have anything to gain by increased control over the web- let's say through legislation, followed by the outcome of events like LulzSec. Edit: link to old discussion here since this his hard for some people to grasp and make the connections: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2659326 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2659326
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A conspiracy? Tell us more!

Dylan16807 13y ago

Are you mocking the idea of one single person being undercover by calling it a 'conspiracy'?

tinco 13y ago
No he's mocking the idea that the FBI sanctioned the attacks. As far as I can tell, all major hacks by lulzsec predate the conversion of Sabu, but even if the FBI had control of Sabu before some of the attacks, that does not mean the FBI sanctioned them. At best the FBI decided it was more important to catch these people than it was to prevent the leaking of some cc's.
- Dylan16807 13y ago
  It depends on your definition of 'sanctioned'.
- clobber 13y ago
  > As far as I can tell, all major hacks by lulzsec predate the conversion of Sabu According to wiki, "He later turned informant for the FBI, working with the agency for over ten months to aid them in identifying other hackers from Lulzsec and related groups" The CIA's website went down June 15th, 2011 (towards the end of the LulzSec campaign) - definitely while Sabu was working for the FBI. 1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hector_Xavier_Monsegur http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hector_Xavier_Monsegur 2. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2659326 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2659326
brokenparser 13y ago
Are you trying to downplay rumours of a conspiracy by mocking the idea that it might exist?
- Dylan16807 13y ago
  No, but that's a tempting idea...
  - aclevernickname 13y ago
    so, yes?
    - Dylan16807 13y ago
      :3c

clobber 13y ago

Not sure where you're going with this. Care to explain?

sliverstorm 13y ago
Speculative translation of your parent: "I've had it just about up to here with inane conspiracy theories about every corner of government including the DMV and the Census Bureau, but please do give me one more!"
- clobber 13y ago
  Yes, because domestic spying agencies (or their controlling entities) couldn't possibly have anything to gain by increased control over the web- let's say through legislation, followed by the outcome of events like LulzSec. Edit: link to old discussion here since this his hard for some people to grasp and make the connections: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2659326 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2659326
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