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If flights are at 80% capacity adding 6 extra seats just means an extra 6 empty seats on every flight. The $733 million number is meaningless - what is actuall
by DrStalker 13y ago
If flights are at 80% capacity adding 6 extra seats just means an extra 6 empty seats on every flight. The $733 million number is meaningless - what is actually needed is to know how many post-reconfiguration flights had 5 or fewer free seats, since that is the only situation in which the extra capacity is being used.
- josefresco 13y agoNot if they maintained the same occupancy rates but with a higher total capacity. 80% of 100 is 80 80% of 106 is 84ish
- StavrosK 13y agoWhy would the average number of passengers suddenly change just because they installed six more free seats?
- Dylan16807 13y agoLook at the post right next to the one you're replying to. More seats makes it easier to get more people on board without risking filling up.
- StavrosK 13y agoBut if they could get more people on board, they wouldn't be 80% full. Or are you referring to the times they're completely full, which would go up by 6 seats? Then 6 doesn't get added to the entire average.
- Dylan16807 13y agoIt's probabilistic. You can't just sell 100% of tickets ahead of time and be done. Some people don't show up. Some people buy tickets at the last second. The more tickets you sell the more you risk running out of space and having angry customers that need to be compensated. Even if you assume every flight has the same demand, having more seats lets you sell more tickets which lets you get more people on board, without needing flights to be full. On top of that, you have uneven demand causing completely full flights, and while it doesn't add 6 to the entire average it adds a notable fraction of 6. Note that nobody actually claimed they added a full 6 more passengers.
- StavrosK 13y agoJosefresco above claimed that the 80% rate could be 80% of the new seating arrangement, which just adds +6 across the board. That's what I "took issue" with.
- Dylan16807 13y agoWhat? It adds +4.8 which seems to match what actually happened. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5710359 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5710359
- justhw 13y agoYep, at 80% full and the median Beoing 737 model capacity being 130 passengers, $733 mill is useless.
- rorrr2 13y agoNot to mention the additional weight of the seats and how much fuel it takes to drag them around.
- chockablock 13y ago>5 or fewer free seats, since that is the only situation in which the extra capacity is being used. You're not taking into account overbooking and cancellations--having n+6 seats to sell makes it easier to get n butts in seats.
- tjsnyder 13y agoIt's 80% pre inch reduction (N Seats) and 80% post inch reduction (N + 6 Seats) which would average to an extra 4.8 seats per flight.