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Show HN: ApplyBin - hiring as easy as email, made with Meteor

48 points by gfloyd 13y ago

jessepollak 13y ago
"We respond to candidate applications with a confirmation email that includes an opt-in link to allow their resume to be seen by other recruiters." Uh....glad I saw this tucked away that the bottom, seems pretty sketchy. EDIT: the blurb mentions that this is opt-in...does that mean as a collector I can opt-in to this being sent or that the applicant's resume will only be sent if they opt-in (but the ask is always sent)?
- deleted 13y ago
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- gfloyd 13y ago
  The candidate has to opt-in, but we do always send a request email. We're considering making it a paid option to disable those emails entirely, or customize them how you'd like. We do want to be as upfront as possible about why this is a free service, so we hope we've communicated that effectively.
  - _lex 13y ago
    This is NOT being upfront. Without coming into the comments I would not have known you'd try to poach my candidates.
    - nilkn 13y ago
      You wouldn't have read the front page for the product before purchasing it? It's not like this is tucked away in the Terms of Use behind complex legal language. It is stated quite plainly on the landing page beneath a large header reading "Why is it free?"
      - _lex 13y ago
        Most people skim websites - they don't do a full read. And most people stop reading once they think they've gotten the gist of what it is. The large header reading "why is it free" is so far below the fold that I never saw it. I revisited the page 3 times and eventually found it by doing cmd+f and searching for "why is it free", and I could only do that because you said there was a header with that title there. This is a huge deal to any business that takes themselves seriously, and when you bury the lead like this, it makes me not trust you. As I said before, this detail should be under the "pricing" text, since that's what every person who might use this service is going to be looking for, once they understand the basics. And I'm a person who might have used this service. I keep a special gmail account for processing hiring applications. I'm their dream user. And I was misled so far that I don't trust them.
  - thoughtcriminal 13y ago
    Um, no. Under "Why are we free?" at the bottom of your landing page it didn't mention that at all. Any other surprises we should know about?
    - gfloyd 13y ago
      It's right in the middle of the page under the "Why is it free?" section.
      - _lex 13y ago
        Put it under your pricing section.
      - thoughtcriminal 13y ago
        I didn't see that there before. If it was there all along, then I'm a spastic idiot and I apologize to ApplyBin.
xSwag 13y ago
Meteor for what seems like a CRUD application, why?
- gfloyd 13y ago
  Meteor allowed us to prototype very quickly. We were able to build several different versions of the interface to see what worked, and then spent the majority of our development time polishing it. Meteor being real-time also made some cool features really easy, like new candidates showing up in the inbox without having to refresh or poll. Overall, I'd say development in Meteor was significantly faster than any other framework I've used.
- igul222 13y ago
  Meteor is one vision for the future of CRUD applications, I think.
davidrudder 13y ago
I wasn't able to signup. I'm on Firefox under Linux. The landing page could use a little more explanation. I'm not sure how it works.
- davidrudder 13y ago
  I'm sorry, I found the explanation below the signup page. One-page sites still confuse me :)
magic5227 13y ago
Don't say "using email is bad" then in the next paragraph "as easy as email"
dschep 13y ago
Looks like your sign up visibility needs to be tweaked when the card is flipped: http://i.imgur.com/9v6gSEg.png http://i.imgur.com/9v6gSEg.png chromium 25 linux
- gfloyd 13y ago
  Thanks for the screenshot! Seems to be an issue on Chromium in Linux. We'll get that fixed.
krat0sprakhar 13y ago
The UI looks damn clean! Congrats on shipping!
vijayr 13y ago
looks nice. Minor thing - On the big image, the user wouldn't know to mouseover on the tooltip. I accidentally found out - if I hover on the tooltip, it expands. May be you could put the expanded version by default?
uxwtf 13y ago
The page doesn't load
zachgersh 13y ago
Love to finally see a product built in Meteor that isn't just a demo application! Did you guys have any intentions of re-writing CATS to use Meteor?
- gfloyd 13y ago
  We'd love to, but CATS has had 7 years of development now and has thousands of users, so rewriting it from the ground up would be quite the undertaking. We'll definitely be using Meteor for any new side projects or external apps that tie in to CATS, though.
moconnor 13y ago
We hire fairly regularly. After skimming the page and glancing at the screenshots - as many of your prospects will do - I was left wondering why this is any better than letting people email me their resumes and applying labels to them. If you hear this question more often, it probably needs to be addressed directly. Also, I've never found hiring by email to be a hassle; my pain point is finding good applicants and screening them - the latter is something Codility did a good job of helping with.
gourneau 13y ago
This is pretty great. As a developer looking for a job, I want the inverse of this. Something to track all the jobs I am applying for. Right now I just use http://www.streak.com/ http://www.streak.com/

48 points by gfloyd 13y ago

"We respond to candidate applications with a confirmation email that includes an opt-in link to allow their resume to be seen by other recruiters." Uh....glad I saw this tucked away that the bottom, seems pretty sketchy. EDIT: the blurb mentions that this is opt-in...does that mean as a collector I can opt-in to this being sent or that the applicant's resume will only be sent if they opt-in (but the ask is always sent)?

deleted 13y ago
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gfloyd 13y ago
The candidate has to opt-in, but we do always send a request email. We're considering making it a paid option to disable those emails entirely, or customize them how you'd like. We do want to be as upfront as possible about why this is a free service, so we hope we've communicated that effectively.
- _lex 13y ago
  This is NOT being upfront. Without coming into the comments I would not have known you'd try to poach my candidates.
  - nilkn 13y ago
    You wouldn't have read the front page for the product before purchasing it? It's not like this is tucked away in the Terms of Use behind complex legal language. It is stated quite plainly on the landing page beneath a large header reading "Why is it free?"
    - _lex 13y ago
      Most people skim websites - they don't do a full read. And most people stop reading once they think they've gotten the gist of what it is. The large header reading "why is it free" is so far below the fold that I never saw it. I revisited the page 3 times and eventually found it by doing cmd+f and searching for "why is it free", and I could only do that because you said there was a header with that title there. This is a huge deal to any business that takes themselves seriously, and when you bury the lead like this, it makes me not trust you. As I said before, this detail should be under the "pricing" text, since that's what every person who might use this service is going to be looking for, once they understand the basics. And I'm a person who might have used this service. I keep a special gmail account for processing hiring applications. I'm their dream user. And I was misled so far that I don't trust them.
- thoughtcriminal 13y ago
  Um, no. Under "Why are we free?" at the bottom of your landing page it didn't mention that at all. Any other surprises we should know about?
  - gfloyd 13y ago
    It's right in the middle of the page under the "Why is it free?" section.
    - _lex 13y ago
      Put it under your pricing section.
    - thoughtcriminal 13y ago
      I didn't see that there before. If it was there all along, then I'm a spastic idiot and I apologize to ApplyBin.

xSwag 13y ago

Meteor for what seems like a CRUD application, why?

gfloyd 13y ago
Meteor allowed us to prototype very quickly. We were able to build several different versions of the interface to see what worked, and then spent the majority of our development time polishing it. Meteor being real-time also made some cool features really easy, like new candidates showing up in the inbox without having to refresh or poll. Overall, I'd say development in Meteor was significantly faster than any other framework I've used.
igul222 13y ago
Meteor is one vision for the future of CRUD applications, I think.

davidrudder 13y ago

I wasn't able to signup. I'm on Firefox under Linux. The landing page could use a little more explanation. I'm not sure how it works.

davidrudder 13y ago
I'm sorry, I found the explanation below the signup page. One-page sites still confuse me :)

magic5227 13y ago

Don't say "using email is bad" then in the next paragraph "as easy as email"

dschep 13y ago

Looks like your sign up visibility needs to be tweaked when the card is flipped: http://i.imgur.com/9v6gSEg.png http://i.imgur.com/9v6gSEg.png chromium 25 linux

gfloyd 13y ago
Thanks for the screenshot! Seems to be an issue on Chromium in Linux. We'll get that fixed.

krat0sprakhar 13y ago

The UI looks damn clean! Congrats on shipping!

vijayr 13y ago

looks nice. Minor thing - On the big image, the user wouldn't know to mouseover on the tooltip. I accidentally found out - if I hover on the tooltip, it expands. May be you could put the expanded version by default?

uxwtf 13y ago

The page doesn't load

zachgersh 13y ago

Love to finally see a product built in Meteor that isn't just a demo application! Did you guys have any intentions of re-writing CATS to use Meteor?

gfloyd 13y ago
We'd love to, but CATS has had 7 years of development now and has thousands of users, so rewriting it from the ground up would be quite the undertaking. We'll definitely be using Meteor for any new side projects or external apps that tie in to CATS, though.

moconnor 13y ago

We hire fairly regularly. After skimming the page and glancing at the screenshots - as many of your prospects will do - I was left wondering why this is any better than letting people email me their resumes and applying labels to them. If you hear this question more often, it probably needs to be addressed directly. Also, I've never found hiring by email to be a hassle; my pain point is finding good applicants and screening them - the latter is something Codility did a good job of helping with.

gourneau 13y ago

This is pretty great. As a developer looking for a job, I want the inverse of this. Something to track all the jobs I am applying for. Right now I just use http://www.streak.com/ http://www.streak.com/