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I'm sorry, but if you are literally marching down the street in a parade, you lose the claim of "privacy". I understand the "exploit them for money" part and I
by chez17 13y ago
I'm sorry, but if you are literally marching down the street in a parade, you lose the claim of "privacy". I understand the "exploit them for money" part and I agree with that part of your argument. However, the "cannot just film random people and share the images" seems, to put it bluntly, insane. If you march in a parade down the street, people can take pictures and share them. There is absolutely zero expectations of privacy when you march in a public parade down a public street.
- masklinn 13y ago> I'm sorry, but if you are literally marching down the street in a parade, you lose the claim of "privacy". I'm sorry but different countries have different sets of laws, and it turns out there are whole legal systems which disagree with your overly broad assertions. Actually I'm not sorry at all, you are in serious need of a clue.
- markbao 13y agoWhat? Parent comment is talking about what he believes as the societal expectation of privacy in his view. He doesn't say "Wow, it's ridiculous that Germany has different laws. How dare they!" Instead of talking about whether or not his view of privacy is correct, this comment thread has devolved into a "look at this clueless foreigner" match.
- lurkinggrue 13y agoGermany has different laws? The nerve!
- twistedpair 13y agoHaving lived in Germany (Muenster) for 4 months, I noticed they have many such laws Americans would be aghast at. For example: blue laws that enforce family friendly working hours for stores (i.e. 9-6), laws that keep your employer from snooping on you, a two year required warranty on consumer electronics. It comes down to how you want to live your life. While Zuck bombastically preaches that "privacy is dead" and the rest of us American sheeple fall in line, those in Germany have seen the worst of authoritarianism under the Nazis and the Soviets and have chosen how they want to live. Not a bad idea.
- mmcnickle 13y ago> a two year required warranty on consumer electronics This isn't limited to Germany, it's a European-wide directive. And I fail to see how it can be viewed as negative.
- gnarbarian 13y agoIt drives up prices. I prefer having a choice. I don't need a 2 year warranty on simple cheap devices. But the warranty is always there for a small price for the important things (like my motherboard or laptop). Often times the additional cost of the mandatory warranty will put a product out of reach for people who would be happy with the mfr's standard warranty.
- michaelt 13y agoWarranty replacement costs are proportional to failure rate - for example, if 1% of devices will fail within 2 years, warranty costs would add 1% to the cost price. What sort of electronics products have a failure rate so high that the costs of a 2 year warranty is anything but trivial?
- gnarbarian 13y agoI am typing on a cheap Logitech K120 keyboard I got at Walmart. (at work I have a nice WASD[1] keyboard) I spent about $10 on this keyboard. if it stopped working in the next two years I wouldn't want to even bother dealing with the warranty mailing it back and waiting weeks for the replacement to arrive. I'd just throw it out and go buy another $10 keyboard. 1) http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/ http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/
- epsylon 13y agoI'd say that you chose a poor example as Logitech's customer service (in Europe at least) is second to none. They will send you replacements for free very easily, while asking only minimal proofs (usually your serial number is enough). I know plenty of people who got their mouse or keyboard replaced in a few days after contacting customer service, without being asked to send the defective one.
- darkchasma 13y agoWho knew there were these things called democracies that allowed their people to create their own laws!!! I understand that America usually "encourages" other countries to follow their laws, but it looks like some freedom still exists, as tiny as it is...
- Shorel 13y agoHow they dare to have laws and expectations different to the ones in my country? Outrageous!
- Xylakant 13y ago> I'm sorry, but if you are literally marching down the street in a parade, you lose the claim of "privacy". True and that assertion holds as well in germany. The issue with the techno-viking video is that he is not shown as part of the parade, but specifically and personally filmed and made the center of the video. This is the point where it crosses the line from filming a public parade with the techno viking being part to filming the techno viking as a person. The first would be completely legal, the second requires a permission of the person.
- duck 13y agoThanks for an actual sane response to the OP. I can understand this a lot more than "it is illegal to video parades".
- tobiasu 13y agoAlso note that public figures have fewer rights to their own image than Joe J. Random. It's fine to target a politician at a demonstration, etc. If there is public interest in a specific person, pictures of that person can be published (within the limits what's newsworthy to the public) without their consent. Lawsuits in this area are not uncommon, since it's hard to nail down the specifics.