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You'll be hard pressed to find anything stimulatory/anabolic that does not stimulate already existing cancers. The simplest example, protein consumption can als

You'll be hard pressed to find anything stimulatory/anabolic that does not stimulate already existing cancers. The simplest example, protein consumption can also promote cancer growth (I can find a ref if pressed, I'm just lazy right now).

rquantz 14y ago
On the other hand, this study found that a high protein, low carb diet can reduce cancer growth in mice[1]. This is not to say that what you said is inaccurate. I just see your comment and the first thing I think is "uh oh, can I still eat paleo?" Given that anabolism can promote tumor growth, do weightlifters tend to have more intense bouts of cancer? [1] http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/71/13/4484.full http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/71/13/4484.full
- haldujai 14y ago
  Remember that a high protein low carb diet is significantly different from a normal high carb high protein diet. As to the second point the best answer I can give you is maybe. Unfortunately different cancers have completely different mechanisms, while high protein may be bad for mammary cancers it might be good for bone cancers. So it's really situational.
  - rquantz 14y ago
    So what you're telling me is I can't have complete knowledge or control over my life? How am I going to live forever, then?? Edit: but seriously, thanks for the response. I think a lot of people are torn by trying to make basic decisions like this, and making sense of conflicting findings is pretty frustrating. Seems like a lot of carbs is bad, though, so I'm going to go with that.
    - haldujai 14y ago
      More importantly avoid fats :)
jvrossb 14y ago
Interested in a ref.
- haldujai 14y ago
  [1] Effect of Casein, Lactalbumin, and Ovalbumin on 3-Methylcholanthrene-Induced Mammary Carcinoma in Rats. doi: 10.1093/jnci/33.2.243 [2] Effects of Varying the Proportion of Protein in the Diet. http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/9/3/162.short http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/9/3/162.short [3]The combined effects of dietary protein and fat on 7,12-dimethylbenz(a)anthracene-induced breast cancer in rats. http://jn.nutrition.org/content/114/7/1213.long http://jn.nutrition.org/content/114/7/1213.long
  - jvrossb 14y ago
    Thanks!

rquantz 14y ago

On the other hand, this study found that a high protein, low carb diet can reduce cancer growth in mice[1]. This is not to say that what you said is inaccurate. I just see your comment and the first thing I think is "uh oh, can I still eat paleo?" Given that anabolism can promote tumor growth, do weightlifters tend to have more intense bouts of cancer? [1] http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/71/13/4484.full http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/71/13/4484.full

haldujai 14y ago
Remember that a high protein low carb diet is significantly different from a normal high carb high protein diet. As to the second point the best answer I can give you is maybe. Unfortunately different cancers have completely different mechanisms, while high protein may be bad for mammary cancers it might be good for bone cancers. So it's really situational.
- rquantz 14y ago
  So what you're telling me is I can't have complete knowledge or control over my life? How am I going to live forever, then?? Edit: but seriously, thanks for the response. I think a lot of people are torn by trying to make basic decisions like this, and making sense of conflicting findings is pretty frustrating. Seems like a lot of carbs is bad, though, so I'm going to go with that.
  - haldujai 14y ago
    More importantly avoid fats :)

jvrossb 14y ago

Interested in a ref.

haldujai 14y ago
[1] Effect of Casein, Lactalbumin, and Ovalbumin on 3-Methylcholanthrene-Induced Mammary Carcinoma in Rats. doi: 10.1093/jnci/33.2.243 [2] Effects of Varying the Proportion of Protein in the Diet. http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/9/3/162.short http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/content/9/3/162.short [3]The combined effects of dietary protein and fat on 7,12-dimethylbenz(a)anthracene-induced breast cancer in rats. http://jn.nutrition.org/content/114/7/1213.long http://jn.nutrition.org/content/114/7/1213.long
- jvrossb 14y ago
  Thanks!