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You pay that fee, and then can generate unlimited wildcard certificates for a year.

by wereHamster 14y ago

kaoD 14y ago
Which is > $8... and specially > free. You can get a free Lamborghini for an inexpensive $400,000 one-time fee!
- wereHamster 14y ago
  If you have >7 domains and want wildcard certificates, it is the cheapest option. Edit: also, if I can get an unlimited number of Lamborghinis for just 400k, where do I sign up??
  - kaoD 14y ago
    > If you have >7 domains and want wildcard certificates, it is the cheapest option. Thanks for the info but I just tried to refute the fact that free/$8 certificates do the same as $800, which they clearly don't. Don't get me wrong: it's great! But completely irrelevant for the argument. > if I can get an unlimited number of Lamborghinis for just 400k, where do I sign up?? You only get a single certificate for $60, not an unlimited number of them. EDIT: see child comment, I'm wrong and you do get unlimited certificates.
    - wereHamster 14y ago
      You are wrong. At StartSSL, you can get an unlimited number once they validated your person, which costs 60$. That validation lasts for a year. During that year you can generate as many wildcard certificates as you want. See https://www.startssl.com/?app=25#27 https://www.startssl.com/?app=25#27 "The fees for Class 2 (60$) and higher are applied to the verification and not for the certificate(s), i.e. you pay for the validations we perform. Once validated there is no limit placed on the amount of certificates one can receive (This depends on other limitations such as uniqueness of the subject line for example)." Edit: They cover exactly their costs. The cost is at validating your persona (they call you, you fax them scans of your passport/drivers license/etc, they need to check that etc.). Issuing a certificate is fully automatic so there are no costs associated with that, so they don't charge for that.
      - kaoD 14y ago
        Thanks! That's good to know! (But irrelevant to the discussion anyways.) Edited the info in the parent comment for further readers.
      - Dylan16807 14y ago
        But why do wildcard certificates need more validation in the first place?

You pay that fee, and then can generate unlimited wildcard certificates for a year.

kaoD 14y ago

Which is > $8... and specially > free. You can get a free Lamborghini for an inexpensive $400,000 one-time fee!

wereHamster 14y ago
If you have >7 domains and want wildcard certificates, it is the cheapest option. Edit: also, if I can get an unlimited number of Lamborghinis for just 400k, where do I sign up??
- kaoD 14y ago
  > If you have >7 domains and want wildcard certificates, it is the cheapest option. Thanks for the info but I just tried to refute the fact that free/$8 certificates do the same as $800, which they clearly don't. Don't get me wrong: it's great! But completely irrelevant for the argument. > if I can get an unlimited number of Lamborghinis for just 400k, where do I sign up?? You only get a single certificate for $60, not an unlimited number of them. EDIT: see child comment, I'm wrong and you do get unlimited certificates.
  - wereHamster 14y ago
    You are wrong. At StartSSL, you can get an unlimited number once they validated your person, which costs 60$. That validation lasts for a year. During that year you can generate as many wildcard certificates as you want. See https://www.startssl.com/?app=25#27 https://www.startssl.com/?app=25#27 "The fees for Class 2 (60$) and higher are applied to the verification and not for the certificate(s), i.e. you pay for the validations we perform. Once validated there is no limit placed on the amount of certificates one can receive (This depends on other limitations such as uniqueness of the subject line for example)." Edit: They cover exactly their costs. The cost is at validating your persona (they call you, you fax them scans of your passport/drivers license/etc, they need to check that etc.). Issuing a certificate is fully automatic so there are no costs associated with that, so they don't charge for that.
    - kaoD 14y ago
      Thanks! That's good to know! (But irrelevant to the discussion anyways.) Edited the info in the parent comment for further readers.
    - Dylan16807 14y ago
      But why do wildcard certificates need more validation in the first place?