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After decades of trying to mke better and better videogames, always more realistic, Molyneux shows that the average human is, in fact satisfied by a Skinner box

by GuiA 14y ago

After decades of trying to mke better and better videogames, always more realistic, Molyneux shows that the average human is, in fact satisfied by a Skinner box and will gladly pay for it.

Kronopath 14y ago
Do you honestly think the average human being is busy playing Curiosity?
- thret 14y ago
  Overwhelmingly average human beings, yes.
- GuiA 14y ago
  Re-read my post. I didn't say the average human being is busy playing Curiosity; I said that the average human is fully satisfied interacting with a Skinner box.
  - Dylan16807 14y ago
    Re-write your post. You said Molyneux showed something about the average human. You can't backpedal that into a statement not involving Molyneux.
    - GuiA 14y ago
      > you said Molyneux showed something about the average human. Yes. > You can't backpedal that into a statement not involving Molyneux. I didn't backpedal; you can change "I said that the average human is fully satisfied interacting with a Skinner box" to "I said that the average human is fully satisfied interacting with a Skinner box, as shown by Molyneux's Curiosity", if it makes you happy, but it doesn't really change anything.
      - Dylan16807 14y ago
        Kronopath challenged the idea that the people playing Curiosity are in fact average. I don't know if you read his comment as a silly statement regarding billions of people playing the game or something, but there is legitimate argument to be made that the average Curiosity player is far away from the average western citizen. If the average Curiosity player is not even close to an average person (such as what if 80% of them had OCD), then your statement that Molyneux has showed anything about the average person is incorrect. So please, either disagree with Kronopath or point out a flaw in my logic, let's not mess around with semantics and restatements.
mjn 14y ago
Cow Clicker is a somewhat similar example: http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/12/ff_cowclicker/all/ http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/12/ff_cowclicker/all/ It was created as a critique of FarmVille-style Facebook games. You could click a cow every 6 hours for free, or pay money to click more often. And people did! The Cow Clicker creator also implemented a Cube Clicker to beat Molyneux's game to market: http://www.bogost.com/blog/cube_clicker.shtml http://www.bogost.com/blog/cube_clicker.shtml

by GuiA 14y ago

After decades of trying to mke better and better videogames, always more realistic, Molyneux shows that the average human is, in fact satisfied by a Skinner box and will gladly pay for it.

Kronopath 14y ago

Do you honestly think the average human being is busy playing Curiosity?

thret 14y ago
Overwhelmingly average human beings, yes.
GuiA 14y ago
Re-read my post. I didn't say the average human being is busy playing Curiosity; I said that the average human is fully satisfied interacting with a Skinner box.
- Dylan16807 14y ago
  Re-write your post. You said Molyneux showed something about the average human. You can't backpedal that into a statement not involving Molyneux.
  - GuiA 14y ago
    > you said Molyneux showed something about the average human. Yes. > You can't backpedal that into a statement not involving Molyneux. I didn't backpedal; you can change "I said that the average human is fully satisfied interacting with a Skinner box" to "I said that the average human is fully satisfied interacting with a Skinner box, as shown by Molyneux's Curiosity", if it makes you happy, but it doesn't really change anything.
    - Dylan16807 14y ago
      Kronopath challenged the idea that the people playing Curiosity are in fact average. I don't know if you read his comment as a silly statement regarding billions of people playing the game or something, but there is legitimate argument to be made that the average Curiosity player is far away from the average western citizen. If the average Curiosity player is not even close to an average person (such as what if 80% of them had OCD), then your statement that Molyneux has showed anything about the average person is incorrect. So please, either disagree with Kronopath or point out a flaw in my logic, let's not mess around with semantics and restatements.

mjn 14y ago

Cow Clicker is a somewhat similar example: http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/12/ff_cowclicker/all/ http://www.wired.com/magazine/2011/12/ff_cowclicker/all/ It was created as a critique of FarmVille-style Facebook games. You could click a cow every 6 hours for free, or pay money to click more often. And people did! The Cow Clicker creator also implemented a Cube Clicker to beat Molyneux's game to market: http://www.bogost.com/blog/cube_clicker.shtml http://www.bogost.com/blog/cube_clicker.shtml