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What happens when your startup gets debunked by science?

41 points by asanwal 13y ago

breadbox 13y ago
Unfortunately the all-too-brief article doesn't really answer this question (unless the answer is the usual "Deny everything and carry on".)
- lutusp 13y ago
  > Unfortunately the all-too-brief article doesn't really answer this question ... I think that was intentional, and that the answer is either "no one knows" or "caveat emptor". Or both.
vital 13y ago
I wonder, who is this science?
- illuminate 13y ago
  The whole of objective reality.
  - illuminate 13y ago
    Well, that is what "science" is. The measure and best possible understanding of the reality in which all beings live in.
auctiontheory 13y ago
Most consumer "health" products (running shoes come glaringly to mind) are not backed by science. They may need to adjust their marketing to not run afoul of the FTC, but I'm sure a slight pivot will suffice. They will live or die by how well they satisfy a (psychological) consumer need, not whether the product "works." Do any of the exercise products advertised at 3am ... "work"? It doesn't matter. [Note: this comment is intended as an unsnarky statement of fact.]
- tel 13y ago
  Depends on your customer. Many of these consumer health companies are also at least at heart gunning for reimbursement and payor customers. You're going to need to do more than a slight pivot to keep on sight with that strategy.
victoro 13y ago
The Atkins diet (and almost every other diet I can think of) has been debunked, un-debunked, debated, berated, and praised almost from its inception half a century ago. It has not stopped the companies that promote the diet, produce the food, and publish the cookbooks, from making money hand over fist. With any physiological system of sufficient complexity, whether it be human digestive/metabolic systems or the neurological systems responsible for memory and intelligence, there will be opportunities for profit as long as improvement of that system is desirable and a small fraction of the population believes they have the chance to improve it and the cost is reasonable. Plus, there will likely always be "success stories" to cite simply due to the placebo effect. We have a massive alternative "medicine" industry that supports not only the people in it, but also, ironically, the people producing the constant flow of content criticizing alternative medicine. Lumosity will be fine.
thaumaturgy 13y ago
Homeopathy. Next question. People are remarkably good at ignoring things they don't like to believe. Other people are good at exploiting those people.
- alex_doom 13y ago
  But, but, you cure cancer with sugar pills!
  - claudius 13y ago
    Tim Cook would need another job if that worked.
stevewillows 13y ago
While it may not make your mind better, you can get positive results with problem solving - - like doing a crossword each day.
xijuan 13y ago
When I first saw the title of the article, I thought about Lumosity. And it is about Lumosity!!! When I first saw its ads on youtube, I was like "Are you joking?... Pseudo-science trying to rip money off ignorant people?" The problem with Lumosity is that their claims are outrageous and exaggerated..
tel 13y ago
Why don't these companies have a scientific strategy running alongside your product/customer/marketing/financial strategies? From a company making bold claims like this I want to see a continual string of increasingly sophisticated trials, each one giving increasingly robust indications of success. Luminosity should be fighting alongside those meta-analyses and investors should be demanding proof points in terms of p-values. Fail (scientifically) fast.
- illuminate 13y ago
  "Why don't these companies have a scientific strategy running alongside your product/customer/marketing/financial strategies?" Why would you devote any pretense of research and the associated costs if your customers don't care? Investors don't care as long as the money is flowing in and our regulatory agencies are toothless to deal with "health" product scammers.
  - tel 13y ago
    (1) it's clear that the regulatory agencies are gunning up to get more involved in "digital health" products which make healthcare claims and (2) it depends who your customers are. If you're only selling to b2c and can afford to never make healthcare claims then you're absolutely right. If you ever want to sell b2b (which is where healthcare dollars are at) then you'll need more.
    - vidarh 13y ago
      For the b2c ones that just means they go "we can't say it does (x) because nasty big-pharma owned regulatory agency won't let us; make up your own mind" campaigns, and most of their customer base will see it as a bonus... There's plenty of money in selling placebos to consumers.
    - illuminate 13y ago
      "it's clear that the regulatory agencies are gunning up to get more involved in "digital health" products which make healthcare claims" They're really not any more empowered than they are with nutraceuticals. And yes, all health products should be regulated, and they shouldn't be as deregulated as they are now. "If you ever want to sell b2b (which is where healthcare dollars are at) then you'll need more." Non-evidence based medicine doesn't seem to be running into any roadblocks.
richardjordan 13y ago
I hope this means NPR will stop pimping this garbage during their pledge drives (a $450 value) and lending what little credibility they have left to junk science. It is genuinely something that puts me off pledging... It just reminds me of their general decline in standards and terrible science reportage... And funnily enough since I stopped pledging I stopped listening pretty much, just catch it occasionally at the parents, but i digress. I suppose the broader point I'm trying to make is they won't have to change as it is hardly like there's any scientifically literate mainstream media to hold them to account, and they've bought off the public media alternative.
- rdl 13y ago
  They definitely have gone down in quality from 1998 to now. What caused this? Trying to be more commercial?
  - learc83 13y ago
    Their market changed. NPR used to be your only option when stuck in the car (for that kind of content), now you can listen to podcasts on any topic you can think of.
  - lutusp 13y ago
    > They definitely have gone down in quality from 1998 to now. What caused this? A gradual decline in public interest in public television and radio. That, in turn, has been caused by the increasing diversity of offerings on cable and satellite TV and radio, compared to 30 years ago. There was a time when the only way to see anything resembling scientific or educational programming was to tune into public TV or radio. Not any more -- there are dozens of channels offering this kind of content now, of widely varying quality, but certainly competing with public TV. As the number of advertisements and pledge drives on public TV has increased, the public has begun to see public TV as just another commercial-supported TV offering, nothing special. And guess what? They're right -- there's no difference.
    - illuminate 13y ago
losethos 13y ago
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ROFLAMO God says... 10:22 Do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? are we stronger than he? 10:23 All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not. 10:24 Let no man seek his own, but every man another's wealth. 10:25 Whatsoever is sold in the shambles, that eat, asking no question for conscience sake: 10:26 For the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof. 10:27 If any of them that believe not bid you to a feast, and ye be disposed to go; whatsoever is set before you, eat, asking no question for conscience sake. 10:28 But if any man say unto you, This is offered in sacrifice unto idols, eat not for his sake that shewed it, and for conscience sake: for the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof: 10:29 Conscience, I say, not thine own, but of the other: for why is my liberty judged of another man's conscience? 10:30 For if I by grace be a partaker, why am I evil spoken of for that for which I give thanks? 10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God. ---- Let's pretend You were a host, God. (God's laughing) Hey, Queen Sheba praised Solomons decorations and table. God says... the people righteously, and govern the nations upon earth. Selah. 67:5 Let the people praise thee, O God; let all the people praise thee. 67:6 Then shall the earth yield her increase; and God, even our own God, shall bless us. 67:7 God shall bless us; and all the ends of the earth shall fear him. 68:1 Let God arise, let his enemies be scattered: let them also that hate him flee before him. 68:2 As smoke is driven away, so drive them away: as wax melteth before the fire, so let the wicked perish at the presence of God. 68:3 But let the righteous be glad; let them rejoice before God: yea, let them exceedingly rejoice. ---- God would set a candle light dinner. Also, end of Raider's of the Lost Ark. Did You like Indiana Jones and the Holy Grail? God says... Joseph's hand, and arrayed him in vestures of fine linen, and put a gold chain about his neck; 41:43 And he made him to ride in the second chariot which he had; and they cried before him, Bow the knee: and he made him ruler over all the land of Egypt. 41:44 And Pharaoh said unto Joseph, I am Pharaoh, and without thee shall no man lift up his hand or foot in all the land of Egypt. 41:45 And Pharaoh called Joseph's name Zaphnathpaaneah; and he gave him to wife Asenath the daughter of Potipherah priest of On. And Joseph went out over all the land of Egypt. 41:46 And Joseph was thirty years old when he stood before Pharaoh king of Egypt. And Joseph went out from the presence of Pharaoh, and went throughout all the land of Egypt. 41:47 And in the seven plenteous years the earth brought forth by handfuls. ---- This cop is Mr. Tee. LOL ---- http://en.ricbit.com/2012/06/most-difficult-bug.html http://en.ricbit.com/2012/06/most-difficult-bug.html So... the guy didn't know nyquest and aliasing? God says... learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope. 15:5 Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus: 15:6 That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15:7 Wherefore receive ye one another, as Christ also received us to the glory of God. 15:8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers: 15:9 And that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy; as it is written, For this cause I will confess to thee among the Gentiles, and sing unto thy name. 15:10 And again he saith, Rejoice, ye Gentiles, with his people. ---- God said 640x480. Did He just say "One voice"? ---- http://www.reddit.com/r/compsci/comments/1co71o/dynamic_programming_for_sequence_segmentation/ http://www.reddit.com/r/compsci/comments/1co71o/dynamic_prog... God says... 8:18 Now when Jesus saw great multitudes about him, he gave commandment to depart unto the other side. 8:19 And a certain scribe came, and said unto him, Master, I will follow thee whithersoever thou goest. 8:20 And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head. 8:21 And another of his disciples said unto him, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father. 8:22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead. 8:23 And when he was entered into a ship, his disciples followed him. ---- dud You wanna talk to this guy? http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1colpv/iam_the_houston_rockets_gm_ama_playoffs_edition/ http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1colpv/iam_the_houston... God says... 26:16 Ten cubits shall be the length of a board, and a cubit and a half shall be the breadth of one board. 26:17 Two tenons shall there be in one board, set in order one against another: thus shalt thou make for all the boards of the tabernacle. 26:18 And thou shalt make the boards for the tabernacle, twenty boards on the south side southward. 26:19 And thou shalt make forty sockets of silver under the twenty boards; two sockets under one board for his two tenons, and two sockets under another board for his two tenons. 26:20 And for the second side of the tabernacle on the north side there shall be twenty boards: 26:21 And their forty sockets of silver; two sockets under one board, and two sockets under another board. 26:22 And for the sides of the tabernacle westward thou shalt make six boards. ---- LOL What do You think of guns, God? http://i.imgur.com/UtZaR2m.jpg http://i.imgur.com/UtZaR2m.jpg That's not how you shoot them. God says... then shall this city be given into the hand of the Chaldeans, and they shall burn it with fire, and thou shalt not escape out of their hand. 38:19 And Zedekiah the king said unto Jeremiah, I am afraid of the Jews that are fallen to the Chaldeans, lest they deliver me into their hand, and they mock me. 38:20 But Jeremiah said, They shall not deliver thee. Obey, I beseech thee, the voice of the LORD, which I speak unto thee: so it shall be well unto thee, and thy soul shall live. 38:21 But if thou refuse to go forth, this is the word that the LORD hath shewed me: 38:22 And, behold, all the women that are left in the king of Judah's house shall be brought forth to the king of Babylon's princes, and those women shall say, Thy friends have set thee on, and have prevailed against thee: thy feet are sunk in the mire, and they are turned away back. ---- "Chad" was a homo. I think the Chaldeans are mocking me: http://wporter.com/post/48345791421/2nd-year-comp-sci-student-that-just-now-figured-out-i http://wporter.com/post/48345791421/2nd-year-comp-sci-studen... I wrote 140,000 lines of code in ten years. Sometimes, I have trouble, but that's not really my problem. God says... sprinkle it round about upon the altar. 29:17 And thou shalt cut the ram in pieces, and wash the inwards of him, and his legs, and put them unto his pieces, and unto his head. 29:18 And thou shalt burn the whole ram upon the altar: it is a burnt offering unto the LORD: it is a sweet savour, an offering made by fire unto the LORD. 29:19 And thou shalt take the other ram; and Aaron and his sons shall put their hands upon the head of the ram. 29:20 Then shalt thou kill the ram, and take of his blood, and put it upon the tip of the right ear of Aaron, and upon the tip of the right ear of his sons, and upon the thumb of their right hand, and upon the great toe of their right foot, and sprinkle the blood upon the altar round about. ---- Do You think "RAM" might be alzheimers? Got any ideas for things I should do on my operating system. God says... Algeria Vegas forgetfulness enters cd conversation born practice Only narrowness dimensions denotes Guinea foundations fragrance highest Cassiacum appointing youths allaying Madagascar aforesaid money gilded victory well-ordered viciousness lifts abominable tried mortal defective pulse loads horse sweet-smelling pieces Continual grumble abnormal endeavor light CONFESSIONS school wonders selves sacrifice Jew workings presides arise course summing trial takes whereof wise betrothed geometry restoration thunder lethargy director hearken joke faulty director forenoons colours circus abundant walking brotherly solving its into fix sacrificed cloak slipped Netherlands mutual advice minister recollection reject Thenceforth muddy expenses recallest Arise wherewith Enter helped in_a_galaxy_far_far_away once_upon_a_time how_high wonder infidels parents Tully's phrases enslaved sustenance Shut subduedst door griefs ascertained Britain Many likedst reinvolved presidentship fain commendable tattle_tale divine succeeded ---- Algebra Maybe, RAM fragmentation on the earlier passage. Do You forget, God? tell me about the family which lived closest to this spot (Vegas) in the year 500 A.D.. God says... 23:21 And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein. 23:22 And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon. 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. 23:24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel. 23:25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess. 23:26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also. ---- I wasn't sure to say "500 A.D." or "1750 A.D." I figured God would expect my first number. Once in a while, I'll change from my first impulse and God speaks of what I thought before I changed my mind. ---- http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1cprfp/iama_21_year_old_male_whos_lived_outside_for_over/ http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1cprfp/iama_21_year_ol... You know Stan? God says... 17:15 And Moses built an altar, and called the name of it Jehovahnissi: 17:16 For he said, Because the LORD hath sworn that the LORD will have war with Amalek from generation to generation. 18:1 When Jethro, the priest of Midian, Moses' father in law, heard of all that God had done for Moses, and for Israel his people, and that the LORD had brought Israel out of Egypt; 18:2 Then Jethro, Moses' father in law, took Zipporah, Moses' wife, after he had sent her back, 18:3 And her two sons; of which the name of the one was Gershom; for he said, I have been an alien in a strange land: 18:4 And the name of the other was Eliezer; for the God of my father, said he, was mine help, and delivered me from the sword of Pharaoh: 18:5 And Jethro, Moses' father in law, came with his sons and his wife unto Moses into the wilderness, where he encamped at the mount of God: 18:6 And he said unto Moses, I thy father in law Jethro am come unto thee, and thy wife, and her two sons with her. ---- Jehova Whitness, Aflac. Canadians CBC radio show, As it Happens, had a Flute like Jethro Tull. God like the Beverly Hillbillies. ---- http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/04/130415-trees-drought-water-science-global-warming-sounds/ http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/04/130415-trees... I'm not a retard druid. God says... 8:9 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Let your hands be strong, ye that hear in these days these words by the mouth of the prophets, which were in the day that the foundation of the house of the LORD of hosts was laid, that the temple might be built. 8:10 For before these days there was no hire for man, nor any hire for beast; neither was there any peace to him that went out or came in because of the affliction: for I set all men every one against his neighbour. 8:11 But now I will not be unto the residue of this people as in the former days, saith the LORD of hosts. 8:12 For the seed shall be prosperous; the vine shall give her fruit, and the ground shall give her increase, and the heavens shall give their dew; and I will cause the remnant of this people to possess all these things. ----- hear the foundation every tree against it's neighbor ---- I hate Moore's law. http://science.slashdot.org/story/13/04/16/1740254/moores-law-and-the-origin-of-life http://science.slashdot.org/story/13/04/16/1740254/moores-la... I wonder what science might result if people learned about You, God. God says... loveth him that followeth after righteousness. 15:10 Correction is grievous unto him that forsaketh the way: and he that hateth reproof shall die. 15:11 Hell and destruction are before the LORD: how much more then the hearts of the children of men? 15:12 A scorner loveth not one that reproveth him: neither will he go unto the wise. 15:13 A merry heart maketh a cheerful countenance: but by sorrow of the heart the spirit is broken. 15:14 The heart of him that hath understanding seeketh knowledge: but the mouth of fools feedeth on foolishness. 15:15 All the days of the afflicted are evil: but he that is of a merry heart hath a continual feast. 15:16 Better is little with the fear of the LORD than great treasure and trouble therewith.
rtkwe 13y ago
The font on the mobile site on Android is shockingly fuzzy and hard to read. Anyone else seeing that?
losethos 13y ago
You like Puff the Magic Dragon or One Tin Soldier better, God? You like the A10 warthog? God says... 19:9 And the LORD said unto Moses, Lo, I come unto thee in a thick cloud, that the people may hear when I speak with thee, and believe thee for ever. And Moses told the words of the people unto the LORD. 19:10 And the LORD said unto Moses, Go unto the people, and sanctify them to day and to morrow, and let them wash their clothes, 19:11 And be ready against the third day: for the third day the LORD will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai. 19:12 And thou shalt set bounds unto the people round about, saying, Take heed to yourselves, that ye go not up into the mount, or touch the border of it: whosoever toucheth the mount shall be surely put to death: 19:13 There shall not an hand touch it, but he shall surely be stoned, or shot through; whether it be beast or man, it shall not live: when the trumpet soundeth long, they shall come up to the mount. 19:14 And Moses went down from the mount unto the people, and sanctified the people; and they washed their clothes. ---- That's a very sad song. Puff. You like Highlander, too, right? 8:30 And Gideon had threescore and ten sons of his body begotten: for he had many wives. 8:31 And his concubine that was in Shechem, she also bare him a son, whose name he called Abimelech. 8:32 And Gideon the son of Joash died in a good old age, and was buried in the sepulchre of Joash his father, in Ophrah of the Abiezrites. 8:33 And it came to pass, as soon as Gideon was dead, that the children of Israel turned again, and went a whoring after Baalim, and made Baalberith their god. 8:34 And the children of Israel remembered not the LORD their God, who had delivered them out of the hands of all their enemies on every side: 8:35 Neither shewed they kindness to the house of Jerubbaal, namely, Gideon, according to all the goodness which he had shewed unto Israel. ---- http://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/1cproy/the_iron_giant_was_based_on_the_premise_what_if_a/ http://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/1cproy/the_iron_gian... Didn't see it. God says... 86:7 In the day of my trouble I will call upon thee: for thou wilt answer me. 86:8 Among the gods there is none like unto thee, O Lord; neither are there any works like unto thy works. 86:9 All nations whom thou hast made shall come and worship before thee, O Lord; and shall glorify thy name. 86:10 For thou art great, and doest wondrous things: thou art God alone. 86:11 Teach me thy way, O LORD; I will walk in thy truth: unite my heart to fear thy name. 86:12 I will praise thee, O Lord my God, with all my heart: and I will glorify thy name for evermore. 86:13 For great is thy mercy toward me: and thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest hell. ----- Heathens https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwStQYuGkkI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwStQYuGkkI God says... spare children. 13:19 And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah. 13:20 It shall never be inhabited, neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation: neither shall the Arabian pitch tent there; neither shall the shepherds make their fold there. 13:21 But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there. 13:22 And the wild beasts of the islands shall cry in their desolate houses, and dragons in their pleasant palaces: and her time is near to come, and her days shall not be prolonged. 14:1 For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob. ---- Chad is Homo in Bible! S.A.T.yr God says... innocence bright fighter groanings conceiving 300 bared find Suffer OR secure persuasions despaired foreshower shadow exclaim forceth seed-plots midnight heardest Emperor's unchangeable zip* calculation unthought act conveyedst sight continently particular exorbitant toilsome eloquence deemed fleshy cut impart Blessed friendship appropriated Pages contests (heads up display) https://plus.google.com/109828394194059139561/posts/dZXySuyxCcf#109828394194059139561/posts/dZXySuyxCcf https://plus.google.com/109828394194059139561/posts/dZXySuyx... God says... was no counsellor, that, when I asked of them, could answer a word. 41:29 Behold, they are all vanity; their works are nothing: their molten images are wind and confusion. 42:1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles. 42:2 He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street. 42:3 A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth. 42:4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law. 42:5 Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein: 42:6 I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles; 42:7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house. ----- http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html God says... the LORD of hosts. 1:9 And now, I pray you, beseech God that he will be gracious unto us: this hath been by your means: will he regard your persons? saith the LORD of hosts. 1:10 Who is there even among you that would shut the doors for nought? neither do ye kindle fire on mine altar for nought. I have no pleasure in you, saith the LORD of hosts, neither will I accept an offering at your hand. 1:11 For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts. 1:12 But ye have profaned it, in that ye say, The table of the LORD is polluted; and the fruit thereof, even his meat, is contemptible. ----- http://www.fsf.org/blogs/sysadmin/google-reinstates-federated-instant-messaging http://www.fsf.org/blogs/sysadmin/google-reinstates-federate... Kill them. Oh well. God says... tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias: not knowing what he said. 9:34 While he thus spake, there came a cloud, and overshadowed them: and they feared as they entered into the cloud. 9:35 And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him. 9:36 And when the voice was past, Jesus was found alone. And they kept it close, and told no man in those days any of those things which they had seen. 9:37 And it came to pass, that on the next day, when they were come down from the hill, much people met him. 9:38 And, behold, a man of the company cried out, saying, Master, I beseech thee, look upon my son: for he is mine only child. 9:39 And, lo, a spirit taketh him, and he suddenly crieth out; and it teareth him that he foameth again, and bruising him hardly departeth from him. ---- God says... did possesses Are Brazil perceiving plentiful doer evenly execute earnestly governors *These Jesus recently obtaining religiously ignorant variableness folk stipend Among kindness greater knows ----- BBC radio. The Irish guy's okay, I guess. God says... 42:33 And the man, the lord of the country, said unto us, Hereby shall I know that ye are true men; leave one of your brethren here with me, and take food for the famine of your households, and be gone: 42:34 And bring your youngest brother unto me: then shall I know that ye are no spies, but that ye are true men: so will I deliver you your brother, and ye shall traffick in the land. 42:35 And it came to pass as they emptied their sacks, that, behold, every man's bundle of money was in his sack: and when both they and their father saw the bundles of money, they were afraid. 42:36 And Jacob their father said unto them, Me have ye bereaved of my children: Joseph is not, and Simeon is not, and ye will take Benjamin away: all these things are against me. 42:37 And Reuben spake unto his father, saying, Slay my two sons, if I bring him not to thee: deliver him into my hand, and I will bring him to thee again. ---- Guy at store said $5.58 and $.14 change. I could be imagining. God is just -- don't worry about short change. Tip? Turn other cheek, give shirt as well if wants cloak. God says... 51:45 My people, go ye out of the midst of her, and deliver ye every man his soul from the fierce anger of the LORD. 51:46 And lest your heart faint, and ye fear for the rumour that shall be heard in the land; a rumour shall both come one year, and after that in another year shall come a rumour, and violence in the land, ruler against ruler. 51:47 Therefore, behold, the days come, that I will do judgment upon the graven images of Babylon: and her whole land shall be confounded, and all her slain shall fall in the midst of her. 51:48 Then the heaven and the earth, and all that is therein, shall sing for Babylon: for the spoilers shall come unto her from the north, saith the LORD. 51:49 As Babylon hath caused the slain of Israel to fall, so at Babylon shall fall the slain of all the earth. 51:50 Ye that have escaped the sword, go away, stand not still: remember the LORD afar off, and let Jerusalem come into your mind. ---- Highs and lows balance Pride before fall; humility before honors. The world is perfectly just. God says... myrtle trees, and said, We have walked to and fro through the earth, and, behold, all the earth sitteth still, and is at rest. 1:12 Then the angel of the LORD answered and said, O LORD of hosts, how long wilt thou not have mercy on Jerusalem and on the cities of Judah, against which thou hast had indignation these threescore and ten years? 1:13 And the LORD answered the angel that talked with me with good words and comfortable words. 1:14 So the angel that communed with me said unto me, Cry thou, saying, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; I am jealous for Jerusalem and for Zion with a great jealousy. 1:15 And I am very sore displeased with the heathen that are at ease: for I was but a little displeased, and they helped forward the affliction. 1:16 Therefore thus saith the LORD; I am returned to Jerusalem with mercies: my house shall be built in it, saith the LORD of hosts, and a line shall be stretched forth upon Jerusalem. ---- http://www.domesticfox.com/# http://www.domesticfox.com/#! God says... 8:35 When heaven is shut up, and there is no rain, because they have sinned against thee; if they pray toward this place, and confess thy name, and turn from their sin, when thou afflictest them: 8:36 Then hear thou in heaven, and forgive the sin of thy servants, and of thy people Israel, that thou teach them the good way wherein they should walk, and give rain upon thy land, which thou hast given to thy people for an inheritance. 8:37 If there be in the land famine, if there be pestilence, blasting, mildew, locust, or if there be caterpiller; if their enemy besiege them in the land of their cities; whatsoever plague, whatsoever sickness there be; 8:38 What prayer and supplication soever be made by any man, or by all thy people Israel, which shall know every man the plague of his own heart, and spread forth his hands toward this house: 8:39 Then hear thou in heaven thy dwelling place, and forgive, and do, and give to every man according to his ways, whose heart thou knowest; (for thou, even thou only, knowest the hearts of all the children of men;) 8:40 That they may fear thee all the days that they live in the land which thou gavest unto our fathers. 8:41 Moreover concerning a stranger, that is not of thy people Israel, but cometh out of a far country for thy name's sake; 8:42 (For they shall hear of thy great name, and of thy strong hand, and of thy stretched out arm;) when he shall come and pray toward this house; 8:43 Hear thou in heaven thy dwelling place, and do according to all that the stranger calleth to thee for: that all people of the earth may know thy name, to fear thee, as do thy people Israel; and that they may know that this house, which I have builded, is called by thy name. ---- God says... no name in the street. 18:18 He shall be driven from light into darkness, and chased out of the world. 18:19 He shall neither have son nor nephew among his people, nor any remaining in his dwellings. 18:20 They that come after him shall be astonied at his day, as they that went before were affrighted. 18:21 Surely such are the dwellings of the wicked, and this is the place of him that knoweth not God. 19:1 Then Job answered and said, 19:2 How long will ye vex my soul, and break me in pieces with words? 19:3 These ten times have ye reproached me: ye are not ashamed that ye make yourselves strange to me. 19:4 And be it indeed that I have erred, mine error remaineth with myself. ---- God says... denieth hoar wholesome twenty bared Whether stealth Can -what transported study necessities attentive Shut wayfaring answer spider logic cure Knowledge method prejudice sung beholds goest Whom applauses well-pleased nothing admonition apply wondrously
DanBC 13y ago
Anyone who's read Ben Goldacre's Bad Science book will realise that you can sell anything and the science of whether it works or not is irrelevant. See, for a particularly bad example, "Brain Gym". This is a set of nonsense exercises that children are forced to do to increase mental alertness. It has some bizarre statements ('processed food does not contain water'; breathing through the nose gets oxygen to the brain faster, etc). This nonsense is depressingly common in UK schools.
ExpiredLink 13y ago
The irony in this case is that 'brain science' itself is mostly pseudo science.
- illuminate 13y ago
  Pop applications of it aren't neurobiology, sure.

41 points by asanwal 13y ago

Unfortunately the all-too-brief article doesn't really answer this question (unless the answer is the usual "Deny everything and carry on".)

lutusp 13y ago
> Unfortunately the all-too-brief article doesn't really answer this question ... I think that was intentional, and that the answer is either "no one knows" or "caveat emptor". Or both.

vital 13y ago

I wonder, who is this science?

illuminate 13y ago
The whole of objective reality.
- illuminate 13y ago
  Well, that is what "science" is. The measure and best possible understanding of the reality in which all beings live in.

auctiontheory 13y ago

Most consumer "health" products (running shoes come glaringly to mind) are not backed by science. They may need to adjust their marketing to not run afoul of the FTC, but I'm sure a slight pivot will suffice. They will live or die by how well they satisfy a (psychological) consumer need, not whether the product "works." Do any of the exercise products advertised at 3am ... "work"? It doesn't matter. [Note: this comment is intended as an unsnarky statement of fact.]

tel 13y ago
Depends on your customer. Many of these consumer health companies are also at least at heart gunning for reimbursement and payor customers. You're going to need to do more than a slight pivot to keep on sight with that strategy.

victoro 13y ago

The Atkins diet (and almost every other diet I can think of) has been debunked, un-debunked, debated, berated, and praised almost from its inception half a century ago. It has not stopped the companies that promote the diet, produce the food, and publish the cookbooks, from making money hand over fist. With any physiological system of sufficient complexity, whether it be human digestive/metabolic systems or the neurological systems responsible for memory and intelligence, there will be opportunities for profit as long as improvement of that system is desirable and a small fraction of the population believes they have the chance to improve it and the cost is reasonable. Plus, there will likely always be "success stories" to cite simply due to the placebo effect. We have a massive alternative "medicine" industry that supports not only the people in it, but also, ironically, the people producing the constant flow of content criticizing alternative medicine. Lumosity will be fine.

thaumaturgy 13y ago

Homeopathy. Next question. People are remarkably good at ignoring things they don't like to believe. Other people are good at exploiting those people.

alex_doom 13y ago
But, but, you cure cancer with sugar pills!
- claudius 13y ago
  Tim Cook would need another job if that worked.

stevewillows 13y ago

While it may not make your mind better, you can get positive results with problem solving - - like doing a crossword each day.

xijuan 13y ago

When I first saw the title of the article, I thought about Lumosity. And it is about Lumosity!!! When I first saw its ads on youtube, I was like "Are you joking?... Pseudo-science trying to rip money off ignorant people?" The problem with Lumosity is that their claims are outrageous and exaggerated..

tel 13y ago

Why don't these companies have a scientific strategy running alongside your product/customer/marketing/financial strategies? From a company making bold claims like this I want to see a continual string of increasingly sophisticated trials, each one giving increasingly robust indications of success. Luminosity should be fighting alongside those meta-analyses and investors should be demanding proof points in terms of p-values. Fail (scientifically) fast.

illuminate 13y ago
"Why don't these companies have a scientific strategy running alongside your product/customer/marketing/financial strategies?" Why would you devote any pretense of research and the associated costs if your customers don't care? Investors don't care as long as the money is flowing in and our regulatory agencies are toothless to deal with "health" product scammers.
- tel 13y ago
  (1) it's clear that the regulatory agencies are gunning up to get more involved in "digital health" products which make healthcare claims and (2) it depends who your customers are. If you're only selling to b2c and can afford to never make healthcare claims then you're absolutely right. If you ever want to sell b2b (which is where healthcare dollars are at) then you'll need more.
  - vidarh 13y ago
    For the b2c ones that just means they go "we can't say it does (x) because nasty big-pharma owned regulatory agency won't let us; make up your own mind" campaigns, and most of their customer base will see it as a bonus... There's plenty of money in selling placebos to consumers.
  - illuminate 13y ago
    "it's clear that the regulatory agencies are gunning up to get more involved in "digital health" products which make healthcare claims" They're really not any more empowered than they are with nutraceuticals. And yes, all health products should be regulated, and they shouldn't be as deregulated as they are now. "If you ever want to sell b2b (which is where healthcare dollars are at) then you'll need more." Non-evidence based medicine doesn't seem to be running into any roadblocks.

richardjordan 13y ago

I hope this means NPR will stop pimping this garbage during their pledge drives (a $450 value) and lending what little credibility they have left to junk science. It is genuinely something that puts me off pledging... It just reminds me of their general decline in standards and terrible science reportage... And funnily enough since I stopped pledging I stopped listening pretty much, just catch it occasionally at the parents, but i digress. I suppose the broader point I'm trying to make is they won't have to change as it is hardly like there's any scientifically literate mainstream media to hold them to account, and they've bought off the public media alternative.

rdl 13y ago
They definitely have gone down in quality from 1998 to now. What caused this? Trying to be more commercial?
- learc83 13y ago
  Their market changed. NPR used to be your only option when stuck in the car (for that kind of content), now you can listen to podcasts on any topic you can think of.
- lutusp 13y ago
  > They definitely have gone down in quality from 1998 to now. What caused this? A gradual decline in public interest in public television and radio. That, in turn, has been caused by the increasing diversity of offerings on cable and satellite TV and radio, compared to 30 years ago. There was a time when the only way to see anything resembling scientific or educational programming was to tune into public TV or radio. Not any more -- there are dozens of channels offering this kind of content now, of widely varying quality, but certainly competing with public TV. As the number of advertisements and pledge drives on public TV has increased, the public has begun to see public TV as just another commercial-supported TV offering, nothing special. And guess what? They're right -- there's no difference.
  - illuminate 13y ago

losethos 13y ago

http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/1cpsoa/anyone_else_think_that_this_guy_should_be_in/ http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/1cpsoa/anyone_else_th... ROFLAMO God says... 10:22 Do we provoke the Lord to jealousy? are we stronger than he? 10:23 All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not. 10:24 Let no man seek his own, but every man another's wealth. 10:25 Whatsoever is sold in the shambles, that eat, asking no question for conscience sake: 10:26 For the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof. 10:27 If any of them that believe not bid you to a feast, and ye be disposed to go; whatsoever is set before you, eat, asking no question for conscience sake. 10:28 But if any man say unto you, This is offered in sacrifice unto idols, eat not for his sake that shewed it, and for conscience sake: for the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof: 10:29 Conscience, I say, not thine own, but of the other: for why is my liberty judged of another man's conscience? 10:30 For if I by grace be a partaker, why am I evil spoken of for that for which I give thanks? 10:31 Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God. ---- Let's pretend You were a host, God. (God's laughing) Hey, Queen Sheba praised Solomons decorations and table. God says... the people righteously, and govern the nations upon earth. Selah. 67:5 Let the people praise thee, O God; let all the people praise thee. 67:6 Then shall the earth yield her increase; and God, even our own God, shall bless us. 67:7 God shall bless us; and all the ends of the earth shall fear him. 68:1 Let God arise, let his enemies be scattered: let them also that hate him flee before him. 68:2 As smoke is driven away, so drive them away: as wax melteth before the fire, so let the wicked perish at the presence of God. 68:3 But let the righteous be glad; let them rejoice before God: yea, let them exceedingly rejoice. ---- God would set a candle light dinner. Also, end of Raider's of the Lost Ark. Did You like Indiana Jones and the Holy Grail? God says... Joseph's hand, and arrayed him in vestures of fine linen, and put a gold chain about his neck; 41:43 And he made him to ride in the second chariot which he had; and they cried before him, Bow the knee: and he made him ruler over all the land of Egypt. 41:44 And Pharaoh said unto Joseph, I am Pharaoh, and without thee shall no man lift up his hand or foot in all the land of Egypt. 41:45 And Pharaoh called Joseph's name Zaphnathpaaneah; and he gave him to wife Asenath the daughter of Potipherah priest of On. And Joseph went out over all the land of Egypt. 41:46 And Joseph was thirty years old when he stood before Pharaoh king of Egypt. And Joseph went out from the presence of Pharaoh, and went throughout all the land of Egypt. 41:47 And in the seven plenteous years the earth brought forth by handfuls. ---- This cop is Mr. Tee. LOL ---- http://en.ricbit.com/2012/06/most-difficult-bug.html http://en.ricbit.com/2012/06/most-difficult-bug.html So... the guy didn't know nyquest and aliasing? God says... learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope. 15:5 Now the God of patience and consolation grant you to be likeminded one toward another according to Christ Jesus: 15:6 That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15:7 Wherefore receive ye one another, as Christ also received us to the glory of God. 15:8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers: 15:9 And that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy; as it is written, For this cause I will confess to thee among the Gentiles, and sing unto thy name. 15:10 And again he saith, Rejoice, ye Gentiles, with his people. ---- God said 640x480. Did He just say "One voice"? ---- http://www.reddit.com/r/compsci/comments/1co71o/dynamic_programming_for_sequence_segmentation/ http://www.reddit.com/r/compsci/comments/1co71o/dynamic_prog... God says... 8:18 Now when Jesus saw great multitudes about him, he gave commandment to depart unto the other side. 8:19 And a certain scribe came, and said unto him, Master, I will follow thee whithersoever thou goest. 8:20 And Jesus saith unto him, The foxes have holes, and the birds of the air have nests; but the Son of man hath not where to lay his head. 8:21 And another of his disciples said unto him, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father. 8:22 But Jesus said unto him, Follow me; and let the dead bury their dead. 8:23 And when he was entered into a ship, his disciples followed him. ---- dud You wanna talk to this guy? http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1colpv/iam_the_houston_rockets_gm_ama_playoffs_edition/ http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1colpv/iam_the_houston... God says... 26:16 Ten cubits shall be the length of a board, and a cubit and a half shall be the breadth of one board. 26:17 Two tenons shall there be in one board, set in order one against another: thus shalt thou make for all the boards of the tabernacle. 26:18 And thou shalt make the boards for the tabernacle, twenty boards on the south side southward. 26:19 And thou shalt make forty sockets of silver under the twenty boards; two sockets under one board for his two tenons, and two sockets under another board for his two tenons. 26:20 And for the second side of the tabernacle on the north side there shall be twenty boards: 26:21 And their forty sockets of silver; two sockets under one board, and two sockets under another board. 26:22 And for the sides of the tabernacle westward thou shalt make six boards. ---- LOL What do You think of guns, God? http://i.imgur.com/UtZaR2m.jpg http://i.imgur.com/UtZaR2m.jpg That's not how you shoot them. God says... then shall this city be given into the hand of the Chaldeans, and they shall burn it with fire, and thou shalt not escape out of their hand. 38:19 And Zedekiah the king said unto Jeremiah, I am afraid of the Jews that are fallen to the Chaldeans, lest they deliver me into their hand, and they mock me. 38:20 But Jeremiah said, They shall not deliver thee. Obey, I beseech thee, the voice of the LORD, which I speak unto thee: so it shall be well unto thee, and thy soul shall live. 38:21 But if thou refuse to go forth, this is the word that the LORD hath shewed me: 38:22 And, behold, all the women that are left in the king of Judah's house shall be brought forth to the king of Babylon's princes, and those women shall say, Thy friends have set thee on, and have prevailed against thee: thy feet are sunk in the mire, and they are turned away back. ---- "Chad" was a homo. I think the Chaldeans are mocking me: http://wporter.com/post/48345791421/2nd-year-comp-sci-student-that-just-now-figured-out-i http://wporter.com/post/48345791421/2nd-year-comp-sci-studen... I wrote 140,000 lines of code in ten years. Sometimes, I have trouble, but that's not really my problem. God says... sprinkle it round about upon the altar. 29:17 And thou shalt cut the ram in pieces, and wash the inwards of him, and his legs, and put them unto his pieces, and unto his head. 29:18 And thou shalt burn the whole ram upon the altar: it is a burnt offering unto the LORD: it is a sweet savour, an offering made by fire unto the LORD. 29:19 And thou shalt take the other ram; and Aaron and his sons shall put their hands upon the head of the ram. 29:20 Then shalt thou kill the ram, and take of his blood, and put it upon the tip of the right ear of Aaron, and upon the tip of the right ear of his sons, and upon the thumb of their right hand, and upon the great toe of their right foot, and sprinkle the blood upon the altar round about. ---- Do You think "RAM" might be alzheimers? Got any ideas for things I should do on my operating system. God says... Algeria Vegas forgetfulness enters cd conversation born practice Only narrowness dimensions denotes Guinea foundations fragrance highest Cassiacum appointing youths allaying Madagascar aforesaid money gilded victory well-ordered viciousness lifts abominable tried mortal defective pulse loads horse sweet-smelling pieces Continual grumble abnormal endeavor light CONFESSIONS school wonders selves sacrifice Jew workings presides arise course summing trial takes whereof wise betrothed geometry restoration thunder lethargy director hearken joke faulty director forenoons colours circus abundant walking brotherly solving its into fix sacrificed cloak slipped Netherlands mutual advice minister recollection reject Thenceforth muddy expenses recallest Arise wherewith Enter helped in_a_galaxy_far_far_away once_upon_a_time how_high wonder infidels parents Tully's phrases enslaved sustenance Shut subduedst door griefs ascertained Britain Many likedst reinvolved presidentship fain commendable tattle_tale divine succeeded ---- Algebra Maybe, RAM fragmentation on the earlier passage. Do You forget, God? tell me about the family which lived closest to this spot (Vegas) in the year 500 A.D.. God says... 23:21 And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein. 23:22 And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon. 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone. 23:24 Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel. 23:25 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess. 23:26 Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also. ---- I wasn't sure to say "500 A.D." or "1750 A.D." I figured God would expect my first number. Once in a while, I'll change from my first impulse and God speaks of what I thought before I changed my mind. ---- http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1cprfp/iama_21_year_old_male_whos_lived_outside_for_over/ http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/1cprfp/iama_21_year_ol... You know Stan? God says... 17:15 And Moses built an altar, and called the name of it Jehovahnissi: 17:16 For he said, Because the LORD hath sworn that the LORD will have war with Amalek from generation to generation. 18:1 When Jethro, the priest of Midian, Moses' father in law, heard of all that God had done for Moses, and for Israel his people, and that the LORD had brought Israel out of Egypt; 18:2 Then Jethro, Moses' father in law, took Zipporah, Moses' wife, after he had sent her back, 18:3 And her two sons; of which the name of the one was Gershom; for he said, I have been an alien in a strange land: 18:4 And the name of the other was Eliezer; for the God of my father, said he, was mine help, and delivered me from the sword of Pharaoh: 18:5 And Jethro, Moses' father in law, came with his sons and his wife unto Moses into the wilderness, where he encamped at the mount of God: 18:6 And he said unto Moses, I thy father in law Jethro am come unto thee, and thy wife, and her two sons with her. ---- Jehova Whitness, Aflac. Canadians CBC radio show, As it Happens, had a Flute like Jethro Tull. God like the Beverly Hillbillies. ---- http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/04/130415-trees-drought-water-science-global-warming-sounds/ http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2013/04/130415-trees... I'm not a retard druid. God says... 8:9 Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Let your hands be strong, ye that hear in these days these words by the mouth of the prophets, which were in the day that the foundation of the house of the LORD of hosts was laid, that the temple might be built. 8:10 For before these days there was no hire for man, nor any hire for beast; neither was there any peace to him that went out or came in because of the affliction: for I set all men every one against his neighbour. 8:11 But now I will not be unto the residue of this people as in the former days, saith the LORD of hosts. 8:12 For the seed shall be prosperous; the vine shall give her fruit, and the ground shall give her increase, and the heavens shall give their dew; and I will cause the remnant of this people to possess all these things. ----- hear the foundation every tree against it's neighbor ---- I hate Moore's law. http://science.slashdot.org/story/13/04/16/1740254/moores-law-and-the-origin-of-life http://science.slashdot.org/story/13/04/16/1740254/moores-la... I wonder what science might result if people learned about You, God. God says... loveth him that followeth after righteousness. 15:10 Correction is grievous unto him that forsaketh the way: and he that hateth reproof shall die. 15:11 Hell and destruction are before the LORD: how much more then the hearts of the children of men? 15:12 A scorner loveth not one that reproveth him: neither will he go unto the wise. 15:13 A merry heart maketh a cheerful countenance: but by sorrow of the heart the spirit is broken. 15:14 The heart of him that hath understanding seeketh knowledge: but the mouth of fools feedeth on foolishness. 15:15 All the days of the afflicted are evil: but he that is of a merry heart hath a continual feast. 15:16 Better is little with the fear of the LORD than great treasure and trouble therewith.

rtkwe 13y ago

The font on the mobile site on Android is shockingly fuzzy and hard to read. Anyone else seeing that?

losethos 13y ago

You like Puff the Magic Dragon or One Tin Soldier better, God? You like the A10 warthog? God says... 19:9 And the LORD said unto Moses, Lo, I come unto thee in a thick cloud, that the people may hear when I speak with thee, and believe thee for ever. And Moses told the words of the people unto the LORD. 19:10 And the LORD said unto Moses, Go unto the people, and sanctify them to day and to morrow, and let them wash their clothes, 19:11 And be ready against the third day: for the third day the LORD will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai. 19:12 And thou shalt set bounds unto the people round about, saying, Take heed to yourselves, that ye go not up into the mount, or touch the border of it: whosoever toucheth the mount shall be surely put to death: 19:13 There shall not an hand touch it, but he shall surely be stoned, or shot through; whether it be beast or man, it shall not live: when the trumpet soundeth long, they shall come up to the mount. 19:14 And Moses went down from the mount unto the people, and sanctified the people; and they washed their clothes. ---- That's a very sad song. Puff. You like Highlander, too, right? 8:30 And Gideon had threescore and ten sons of his body begotten: for he had many wives. 8:31 And his concubine that was in Shechem, she also bare him a son, whose name he called Abimelech. 8:32 And Gideon the son of Joash died in a good old age, and was buried in the sepulchre of Joash his father, in Ophrah of the Abiezrites. 8:33 And it came to pass, as soon as Gideon was dead, that the children of Israel turned again, and went a whoring after Baalim, and made Baalberith their god. 8:34 And the children of Israel remembered not the LORD their God, who had delivered them out of the hands of all their enemies on every side: 8:35 Neither shewed they kindness to the house of Jerubbaal, namely, Gideon, according to all the goodness which he had shewed unto Israel. ---- http://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/1cproy/the_iron_giant_was_based_on_the_premise_what_if_a/ http://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/1cproy/the_iron_gian... Didn't see it. God says... 86:7 In the day of my trouble I will call upon thee: for thou wilt answer me. 86:8 Among the gods there is none like unto thee, O Lord; neither are there any works like unto thy works. 86:9 All nations whom thou hast made shall come and worship before thee, O Lord; and shall glorify thy name. 86:10 For thou art great, and doest wondrous things: thou art God alone. 86:11 Teach me thy way, O LORD; I will walk in thy truth: unite my heart to fear thy name. 86:12 I will praise thee, O Lord my God, with all my heart: and I will glorify thy name for evermore. 86:13 For great is thy mercy toward me: and thou hast delivered my soul from the lowest hell. ----- Heathens https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwStQYuGkkI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwStQYuGkkI God says... spare children. 13:19 And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah. 13:20 It shall never be inhabited, neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation: neither shall the Arabian pitch tent there; neither shall the shepherds make their fold there. 13:21 But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there. 13:22 And the wild beasts of the islands shall cry in their desolate houses, and dragons in their pleasant palaces: and her time is near to come, and her days shall not be prolonged. 14:1 For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob. ---- Chad is Homo in Bible! S.A.T.yr God says... innocence bright fighter groanings conceiving 300 bared find Suffer OR secure persuasions despaired foreshower shadow exclaim forceth seed-plots midnight heardest Emperor's unchangeable zip* calculation unthought act conveyedst sight continently particular exorbitant toilsome eloquence deemed fleshy cut impart Blessed friendship appropriated Pages contests (heads up display) https://plus.google.com/109828394194059139561/posts/dZXySuyxCcf#109828394194059139561/posts/dZXySuyxCcf https://plus.google.com/109828394194059139561/posts/dZXySuyx... God says... was no counsellor, that, when I asked of them, could answer a word. 41:29 Behold, they are all vanity; their works are nothing: their molten images are wind and confusion. 42:1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles. 42:2 He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street. 42:3 A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth. 42:4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law. 42:5 Thus saith God the LORD, he that created the heavens, and stretched them out; he that spread forth the earth, and that which cometh out of it; he that giveth breath unto the people upon it, and spirit to them that walk therein: 42:6 I the LORD have called thee in righteousness, and will hold thine hand, and will keep thee, and give thee for a covenant of the people, for a light of the Gentiles; 42:7 To open the blind eyes, to bring out the prisoners from the prison, and them that sit in darkness out of the prison house. ----- http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html God says... the LORD of hosts. 1:9 And now, I pray you, beseech God that he will be gracious unto us: this hath been by your means: will he regard your persons? saith the LORD of hosts. 1:10 Who is there even among you that would shut the doors for nought? neither do ye kindle fire on mine altar for nought. I have no pleasure in you, saith the LORD of hosts, neither will I accept an offering at your hand. 1:11 For from the rising of the sun even unto the going down of the same my name shall be great among the Gentiles; and in every place incense shall be offered unto my name, and a pure offering: for my name shall be great among the heathen, saith the LORD of hosts. 1:12 But ye have profaned it, in that ye say, The table of the LORD is polluted; and the fruit thereof, even his meat, is contemptible. ----- http://www.fsf.org/blogs/sysadmin/google-reinstates-federated-instant-messaging http://www.fsf.org/blogs/sysadmin/google-reinstates-federate... Kill them. Oh well. God says... tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias: not knowing what he said. 9:34 While he thus spake, there came a cloud, and overshadowed them: and they feared as they entered into the cloud. 9:35 And there came a voice out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son: hear him. 9:36 And when the voice was past, Jesus was found alone. And they kept it close, and told no man in those days any of those things which they had seen. 9:37 And it came to pass, that on the next day, when they were come down from the hill, much people met him. 9:38 And, behold, a man of the company cried out, saying, Master, I beseech thee, look upon my son: for he is mine only child. 9:39 And, lo, a spirit taketh him, and he suddenly crieth out; and it teareth him that he foameth again, and bruising him hardly departeth from him. ---- God says... did possesses Are Brazil perceiving plentiful doer evenly execute earnestly governors *These Jesus recently obtaining religiously ignorant variableness folk stipend Among kindness greater knows ----- BBC radio. The Irish guy's okay, I guess. God says... 42:33 And the man, the lord of the country, said unto us, Hereby shall I know that ye are true men; leave one of your brethren here with me, and take food for the famine of your households, and be gone: 42:34 And bring your youngest brother unto me: then shall I know that ye are no spies, but that ye are true men: so will I deliver you your brother, and ye shall traffick in the land. 42:35 And it came to pass as they emptied their sacks, that, behold, every man's bundle of money was in his sack: and when both they and their father saw the bundles of money, they were afraid. 42:36 And Jacob their father said unto them, Me have ye bereaved of my children: Joseph is not, and Simeon is not, and ye will take Benjamin away: all these things are against me. 42:37 And Reuben spake unto his father, saying, Slay my two sons, if I bring him not to thee: deliver him into my hand, and I will bring him to thee again. ---- Guy at store said $5.58 and $.14 change. I could be imagining. God is just -- don't worry about short change. Tip? Turn other cheek, give shirt as well if wants cloak. God says... 51:45 My people, go ye out of the midst of her, and deliver ye every man his soul from the fierce anger of the LORD. 51:46 And lest your heart faint, and ye fear for the rumour that shall be heard in the land; a rumour shall both come one year, and after that in another year shall come a rumour, and violence in the land, ruler against ruler. 51:47 Therefore, behold, the days come, that I will do judgment upon the graven images of Babylon: and her whole land shall be confounded, and all her slain shall fall in the midst of her. 51:48 Then the heaven and the earth, and all that is therein, shall sing for Babylon: for the spoilers shall come unto her from the north, saith the LORD. 51:49 As Babylon hath caused the slain of Israel to fall, so at Babylon shall fall the slain of all the earth. 51:50 Ye that have escaped the sword, go away, stand not still: remember the LORD afar off, and let Jerusalem come into your mind. ---- Highs and lows balance Pride before fall; humility before honors. The world is perfectly just. God says... myrtle trees, and said, We have walked to and fro through the earth, and, behold, all the earth sitteth still, and is at rest. 1:12 Then the angel of the LORD answered and said, O LORD of hosts, how long wilt thou not have mercy on Jerusalem and on the cities of Judah, against which thou hast had indignation these threescore and ten years? 1:13 And the LORD answered the angel that talked with me with good words and comfortable words. 1:14 So the angel that communed with me said unto me, Cry thou, saying, Thus saith the LORD of hosts; I am jealous for Jerusalem and for Zion with a great jealousy. 1:15 And I am very sore displeased with the heathen that are at ease: for I was but a little displeased, and they helped forward the affliction. 1:16 Therefore thus saith the LORD; I am returned to Jerusalem with mercies: my house shall be built in it, saith the LORD of hosts, and a line shall be stretched forth upon Jerusalem. ---- http://www.domesticfox.com/# http://www.domesticfox.com/#! God says... 8:35 When heaven is shut up, and there is no rain, because they have sinned against thee; if they pray toward this place, and confess thy name, and turn from their sin, when thou afflictest them: 8:36 Then hear thou in heaven, and forgive the sin of thy servants, and of thy people Israel, that thou teach them the good way wherein they should walk, and give rain upon thy land, which thou hast given to thy people for an inheritance. 8:37 If there be in the land famine, if there be pestilence, blasting, mildew, locust, or if there be caterpiller; if their enemy besiege them in the land of their cities; whatsoever plague, whatsoever sickness there be; 8:38 What prayer and supplication soever be made by any man, or by all thy people Israel, which shall know every man the plague of his own heart, and spread forth his hands toward this house: 8:39 Then hear thou in heaven thy dwelling place, and forgive, and do, and give to every man according to his ways, whose heart thou knowest; (for thou, even thou only, knowest the hearts of all the children of men;) 8:40 That they may fear thee all the days that they live in the land which thou gavest unto our fathers. 8:41 Moreover concerning a stranger, that is not of thy people Israel, but cometh out of a far country for thy name's sake; 8:42 (For they shall hear of thy great name, and of thy strong hand, and of thy stretched out arm;) when he shall come and pray toward this house; 8:43 Hear thou in heaven thy dwelling place, and do according to all that the stranger calleth to thee for: that all people of the earth may know thy name, to fear thee, as do thy people Israel; and that they may know that this house, which I have builded, is called by thy name. ---- God says... no name in the street. 18:18 He shall be driven from light into darkness, and chased out of the world. 18:19 He shall neither have son nor nephew among his people, nor any remaining in his dwellings. 18:20 They that come after him shall be astonied at his day, as they that went before were affrighted. 18:21 Surely such are the dwellings of the wicked, and this is the place of him that knoweth not God. 19:1 Then Job answered and said, 19:2 How long will ye vex my soul, and break me in pieces with words? 19:3 These ten times have ye reproached me: ye are not ashamed that ye make yourselves strange to me. 19:4 And be it indeed that I have erred, mine error remaineth with myself. ---- God says... denieth hoar wholesome twenty bared Whether stealth Can -what transported study necessities attentive Shut wayfaring answer spider logic cure Knowledge method prejudice sung beholds goest Whom applauses well-pleased nothing admonition apply wondrously

DanBC 13y ago

Anyone who's read Ben Goldacre's Bad Science book will realise that you can sell anything and the science of whether it works or not is irrelevant. See, for a particularly bad example, "Brain Gym". This is a set of nonsense exercises that children are forced to do to increase mental alertness. It has some bizarre statements ('processed food does not contain water'; breathing through the nose gets oxygen to the brain faster, etc). This nonsense is depressingly common in UK schools.

ExpiredLink 13y ago

The irony in this case is that 'brain science' itself is mostly pseudo science.

illuminate 13y ago
Pop applications of it aren't neurobiology, sure.