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"I think that part of their success is because China a non-religious tyranny." China's tyranny is religious. Their religion is called "communism", is not that

"I think that part of their success is because China a non-religious tyranny." China's tyranny is religious. Their religion is called "communism", is not that people in China is free to believe what they want. If you go to China you will see that family is very strong there, altars for dead family members are in lots of houses.

adventured 14y ago
More specifically they worship the state. They replace god with that (compared to theocracies). Communism is a mystical collectivist ideology, that proclaims the magic will of the people can make the impossible, possible. It pretends to bring reality under the rule of the subjective whim, such that if enough people believe something then it will be so. That's classic doctrine however, and it's questionable how much of that style of Communism still exists in China, they seem to be far more practical in their application.
- pyre 14y ago
  | More specifically they worship the state. That's arguable. I don't think that many people 'on the ground' in China actually worship the state. On the other hand, many people in Muslim theocracies actually worship Allah, even if they don't agree with every aspect of the government. The government didn't replace religion, but they do control it. There's an PRC sanctioned sect of Christianity. Buddhist monks in Tibet need to be registered Communist party members. | it's questionable how much of that style | of Communism still exists in China It's questionable how much Marxism actually existed from the beginning. I don't think that Marx envisioned famines starving the poor in his "worker's paradise."
  - Volpe 14y ago
    > There's an PRC sanctioned sect of Christianity. Buddhist monks in Tibet need to be registered Communist party members. You can, and a lot of people are buddhist in china without any interference from the state. > It's questionable how much Marxism actually existed from the beginning. I don't think that Marx envisioned famines starving the poor in his "worker's paradise." That's like saying "It's questionable how democractic USA is/was given they had slavery." And to nitpick, they starved the rich as well ;-) (which is a bit more marxist)
dsfasfasf 14y ago
>>Their religion is called "communism" Oh come off it.

adventured 14y ago

More specifically they worship the state. They replace god with that (compared to theocracies). Communism is a mystical collectivist ideology, that proclaims the magic will of the people can make the impossible, possible. It pretends to bring reality under the rule of the subjective whim, such that if enough people believe something then it will be so. That's classic doctrine however, and it's questionable how much of that style of Communism still exists in China, they seem to be far more practical in their application.

pyre 14y ago
| More specifically they worship the state. That's arguable. I don't think that many people 'on the ground' in China actually worship the state. On the other hand, many people in Muslim theocracies actually worship Allah, even if they don't agree with every aspect of the government. The government didn't replace religion, but they do control it. There's an PRC sanctioned sect of Christianity. Buddhist monks in Tibet need to be registered Communist party members. | it's questionable how much of that style | of Communism still exists in China It's questionable how much Marxism actually existed from the beginning. I don't think that Marx envisioned famines starving the poor in his "worker's paradise."
- Volpe 14y ago
  > There's an PRC sanctioned sect of Christianity. Buddhist monks in Tibet need to be registered Communist party members. You can, and a lot of people are buddhist in china without any interference from the state. > It's questionable how much Marxism actually existed from the beginning. I don't think that Marx envisioned famines starving the poor in his "worker's paradise." That's like saying "It's questionable how democractic USA is/was given they had slavery." And to nitpick, they starved the rich as well ;-) (which is a bit more marxist)

dsfasfasf 14y ago

>>Their religion is called "communism" Oh come off it.