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So cool! How long do you think it will take 'till we can apt-get install jedi-games from a major repository? Thank you, Raven! It'll be fun to read the cod

by ISL 14y ago

So cool! How long do you think it will take 'till we can apt-get install jedi-games from a major repository? Thank you, Raven! It'll be fun to read the code. Edit: Not sure I ever expected to have a 'jawa' directory on my computer.... Edit2: Just one more gem. // Just give him normal pain for a little while

Argorak 14y ago
Forever. They only released the source code without assets.
- codygman 14y ago
  Well, perhaps someone will create some assets :D
  - zanny 14y ago
    Mandatory plug for freedoom: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDUQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nongnu.org%2Ffreedoom%2F&ei=y1NdUba7D8rD4APxuYHgBQ&usg=AFQjCNFJv3nq4Oz-QG-XKmzSs4DwmA1now&sig2=9VCKQhvue8X-powG0Yw-rg&bvm=bv.44770516,d.dmg http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&#... Off the top of my head, I know Heretic and Doom have custom models and textures from the Doomsday guys, I know there is a high res quake texture pack, there is a high res Jedi Knight pack, but none of those include levels / models / sound / etc, so they are all addons to the base games. Freedoom is the only total conversion of a FOSS'd major game engine with FOSS assets that is actually playable that I know of. If anyone knows another, let me know, I'd love to play them.
- antoinec 14y ago
  I'm not sure, but wouldn't it be possible to get the assets from an original installation of the game ?
  - GuiA 14y ago
    Yes, but they're presumably still owned by LucasArts or something along those lines.
  - Argorak 14y ago
    Sure, but how would apt handle that? Releasing an apt package with the assets would be copyright infringement. All ID games suffer from the same problems.
    - zokier 14y ago
      Separate data and engine packages, engine package distributed by Debian, data left as the responsibility of the user. That way the iD games are in debian too. eg. http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/quake http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/quake
    - e12e 14y ago
      It could be packaged, without assets, but with an "installer" that prompts for a cd/source to copy from (along the lines of what ttf-mscorefonts-installer does, for instance -- or freecraft[1] for a more similar example: "FreeCraft needs a lot of data (maps and artwork), that can come from WarCraft II CD, or from the FreeCraft Media Project, codename fcmp, that has support for almost all the data present in WarCraft II. (...) WarCraft II is a registered trademark of Blizzard Entertainment."). [1] http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/dapper/man6/freecraft.6.html http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/dapper/man6/freecraft.6....
- ThomW 14y ago
  The assets are relatively easy to get -- Steam has both games. You could either pay $9.99 for each of the games, or buy the Jedi Knight Collection, which includes Jedi Academy and Outcast, plus the Dark Forces games as well as Jedi Knight: Mysteries of the Sith for $19.99. http://store.steampowered.com/sub/2103/ http://store.steampowered.com/sub/2103/
mathnode 14y ago
Probably not long, considering the Outcast series were a spinoff story, and the community is brimming with assets to re-create players, lightsabers, and maps from the films

by ISL 14y ago

Argorak 14y ago

Forever. They only released the source code without assets.

codygman 14y ago
Well, perhaps someone will create some assets :D
- zanny 14y ago
  Mandatory plug for freedoom: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDUQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nongnu.org%2Ffreedoom%2F&ei=y1NdUba7D8rD4APxuYHgBQ&usg=AFQjCNFJv3nq4Oz-QG-XKmzSs4DwmA1now&sig2=9VCKQhvue8X-powG0Yw-rg&bvm=bv.44770516,d.dmg http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&#... Off the top of my head, I know Heretic and Doom have custom models and textures from the Doomsday guys, I know there is a high res quake texture pack, there is a high res Jedi Knight pack, but none of those include levels / models / sound / etc, so they are all addons to the base games. Freedoom is the only total conversion of a FOSS'd major game engine with FOSS assets that is actually playable that I know of. If anyone knows another, let me know, I'd love to play them.
antoinec 14y ago
I'm not sure, but wouldn't it be possible to get the assets from an original installation of the game ?
- GuiA 14y ago
  Yes, but they're presumably still owned by LucasArts or something along those lines.
- Argorak 14y ago
  Sure, but how would apt handle that? Releasing an apt package with the assets would be copyright infringement. All ID games suffer from the same problems.
  - zokier 14y ago
    Separate data and engine packages, engine package distributed by Debian, data left as the responsibility of the user. That way the iD games are in debian too. eg. http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/quake http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/quake
  - e12e 14y ago
    It could be packaged, without assets, but with an "installer" that prompts for a cd/source to copy from (along the lines of what ttf-mscorefonts-installer does, for instance -- or freecraft[1] for a more similar example: "FreeCraft needs a lot of data (maps and artwork), that can come from WarCraft II CD, or from the FreeCraft Media Project, codename fcmp, that has support for almost all the data present in WarCraft II. (...) WarCraft II is a registered trademark of Blizzard Entertainment."). [1] http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/dapper/man6/freecraft.6.html http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/dapper/man6/freecraft.6....
ThomW 14y ago
The assets are relatively easy to get -- Steam has both games. You could either pay $9.99 for each of the games, or buy the Jedi Knight Collection, which includes Jedi Academy and Outcast, plus the Dark Forces games as well as Jedi Knight: Mysteries of the Sith for $19.99. http://store.steampowered.com/sub/2103/ http://store.steampowered.com/sub/2103/

mathnode 14y ago

Probably not long, considering the Outcast series were a spinoff story, and the community is brimming with assets to re-create players, lightsabers, and maps from the films