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1) Any government is paternalistic about their citizens abroad, especially one's with money/connections/influence. And I'm surprised that you think that US cit

1) Any government is paternalistic about their citizens abroad, especially one's with money/connections/influence. And I'm surprised that you think that US citizens getting killed through North Korean action in South Korea would not lead to an immediate response by the US government. You believe that the US government would say "Oh yeah, well, they just killed many of our citizens but lets wait to attack because..." Because what? Preserve what intelligence? You are also misguided and misinformed about the relationship between the DPRK and China. While it is possible that North Korea will act without permission, they will not act without warning China beforehand.

seanmcdirmid 14y ago
> And I'm surprised that you think that US citizens getting killed through North Korean action in South Korea would not lead to an immediate response by the US government. It wouldn't be what we are thinking. Generally, just having the country invaded is enough for us to be involved, actually. > You are also misguided and misinformed about the relationship between the DPRK and China. While it is possible that North Korea will act without permission, they will not act without warning China beforehand. I live in Beijing and pay attention. I don't think you are really informed very well; if the DPRK bothered to warn China, it would just give them some extra time to get some troops from Liaoning across the Yalu to stop their plans cold. Their first thought wouldn't be: let's save our tourists!
- kapnobatairza 14y ago
  I never said that would be their first thought. It is simply another consideration and part of the reason that China would not tolerate an escalation into a real war with South Korea. The only way for North Korea to "get away" with crossing the DMZ is if it, at the very least, gives China advanced warning of their actions to placate some of these concerns. Yes, protecting rich Chinese citizens in South Korea is not the only concern, but it is any important one. Besides that, I never said the warning would come from official diplomatic channels within the DPRK. I just said "warning". What this could mean is a warning from asset China has within the government and country. And believe me, they have plenty of assets within the DPRK government that will tip them off. I'm not even sure what your argument here is: That China wouldn't care? That they would care but they wouldn't care about their overseas citizens? That they have no oversight or control or assets in North Korea?

seanmcdirmid 14y ago

> And I'm surprised that you think that US citizens getting killed through North Korean action in South Korea would not lead to an immediate response by the US government. It wouldn't be what we are thinking. Generally, just having the country invaded is enough for us to be involved, actually. > You are also misguided and misinformed about the relationship between the DPRK and China. While it is possible that North Korea will act without permission, they will not act without warning China beforehand. I live in Beijing and pay attention. I don't think you are really informed very well; if the DPRK bothered to warn China, it would just give them some extra time to get some troops from Liaoning across the Yalu to stop their plans cold. Their first thought wouldn't be: let's save our tourists!

kapnobatairza 14y ago
I never said that would be their first thought. It is simply another consideration and part of the reason that China would not tolerate an escalation into a real war with South Korea. The only way for North Korea to "get away" with crossing the DMZ is if it, at the very least, gives China advanced warning of their actions to placate some of these concerns. Yes, protecting rich Chinese citizens in South Korea is not the only concern, but it is any important one. Besides that, I never said the warning would come from official diplomatic channels within the DPRK. I just said "warning". What this could mean is a warning from asset China has within the government and country. And believe me, they have plenty of assets within the DPRK government that will tip them off. I'm not even sure what your argument here is: That China wouldn't care? That they would care but they wouldn't care about their overseas citizens? That they have no oversight or control or assets in North Korea?