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Funny story from the Hosting company[1]: "Before the break of dawn on a morning in April, a full SWAT team was sent to execute a search warrant on CyberBunker'
by xSwag 14y ago
Funny story from the Hosting company[1]:
"Before the break of dawn on a morning in April, a full SWAT team was sent to execute a search warrant on CyberBunker's property."
"It must not have occurred to the officers that the blast doors were designed to withstand a 20 megaton nuclear explosion from close range. When the SWAT team realized that the door was not being opened for them, they throw flashbangs and take other actions to draw attention."
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And from the NYT article:
“Dutch authorities and the police have made several attempts to enter the bunker by force,” the site said. “None of these attempts were successful.”
Haha, this is too funny.
More detailed article on NYT[2]
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[1]http://cyberbunker.com/web/swat.php http://cyberbunker.com/web/swat.php
[2]http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/27/technology/internet/online-dispute-becomes-internet-snarling-attack.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/27/technology/internet/online...
- mikeash 14y agoYou stopped before the best part! "On the other side of the blast doors, no one inside the bunker noticed anything unusual." According to that story, nobody even realized that a SWAT team had tried to break their door down until hours later!
- arethuza 14y agoNote that "close range" in this case is a 20Mt explosion 5km away: http://cyberbunker.com/web/bunker-specs.php http://cyberbunker.com/web/bunker-specs.php Having said that, in the case of 20Mt nukes I suspect 5km does count as "close range".
- mikeash 14y agoAccording to a convenient nuclear effects calculator I found[1], 20MT at 5km and an optimal burst height will generate over 40psi of overpressure. The fireball itself will reach about 4km in radius. According to another site[2], 20psi is enough to severely damage or destroy heavily built concrete buildings, and the maximum wind speed at 40psi will be greater than the speed of sound. For comparison, 3psi is enough to destroy a normal house. So, yeah, 5km counts as "close range". [1] http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/Bombcalc?yield=20&yunit=1000&range=5&runit=0.62137119&rotate=0&imsize=800 http://www.fourmilab.ch/cgi-bin/Bombcalc?yield=20&yunit=... [2] http://www.atomicarchive.com/Effects/effects4.shtml http://www.atomicarchive.com/Effects/effects4.shtml
- dclowd9901 14y agoGlad to know in the case of full scale nuclear war, the only survivors will be lunatics and data center admins.
- ams6110 14y agoThey are not disjoint sets.
- toomuchtodo 14y agohttp://xkcd.com/705/ http://xkcd.com/705/
- Trufa 14y agoSounds like the beginning of a series!
- DanBC 14y agoSee the short story 'When Sysdmins Ruled the Earth' by Cory Doctorow. (http://craphound.com/overclocked/Cory_Doctorow_-_Overclocked_-_When_Sysadmins_Ruled_the_Earth.html http://craphound.com/overclocked/Cory_Doctorow_-_Overclocked...)
- engtech 14y agorelevant fiction: http://craphound.com/overclocked/Cory_Doctorow_-_Overclocked_-_When_Sysadmins_Ruled_the_Earth.html http://craphound.com/overclocked/Cory_Doctorow_-_Overclocked...
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- Roboprog 14y agoThe comments on the NYT article you linked are interesting. The sheer amount of venom being directed at Cyberbunker. It's as if people cannot imagine that multiple parties might somehow be involved within that organization (hosting company). Also, not everybody seems to love Spamhaus, which is largely overlooked in the articles. Missing in this is who is attacking Spamhaus and why -- what is motivating the attackers to risk eventual detection or capture. Also, it seems implied but not stated, are all of the attacks originating from leased servers in Spamhaus???
- peterwwillis 14y agoI looked up a video with an actual Dutch SWAT team and their uniform looks different. The one in the picture is pretty derpy, and they're carrying what looks like tiny medieval shields. I'm not convinced.
- ohwp 14y agoThe picture is clearly Photoshopped. Light in the background is coming from the right, while light on the team is coming from the left. Edit: talking about this picture: http://cyberbunker.com/web/images/swat-bunker.jpg http://cyberbunker.com/web/images/swat-bunker.jpg Edit2: I think it's more difficult to determine if it's real than I thought.
- coldtea 14y agoThere are trees all around. Light could be coming from the top (around midday) and be blocked in arbitrary parts by the trees, so one part of the place gets light from the right, while another gets it from the left.
- nwh 14y agoIs there a mirror of the image? Ironically enough, that server is down for the count.
- fnordfnordfnord 14y agoI don't think it's meant to be representative of their surveillance footage.
- knowaveragejoe 14y agoIt's definitely photoshopped, look at the ground they're standing on, where it fades into the wooded area.
- stiller 14y agoThat photo looks like regular Dutch police officers in riot gear. Dutch SWAT (Arrestatieteam) look like special forces only with jeans.
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- scott_s 14y agoI do not accept any of their claims at face value.
- coldtea 14y agoIs this the HN equivalent of "fake!" comments in YouTube videos? You can read that they were "operating from a Cold War era government command bunker that was purpose-built by the military to house sensitive electronic gear". This makes the story about the SWAT team very believable.
- scott_s 14y agoThat makes the story possible. Believable is a different realm entirely.
- wilfra 14y agoWhen I read the story I also thought it was most likely BS. They claim that the SWAT team just gave up and went back to their police station and then denied they ever went there. If a SWAT team were executing a search warrant or seeking to arrest people, they would not just decide to drop the case because they couldn't get in. They also claim to have extensive video of this event but decided not to release any of it because the police gave them 8,000 Euros to repair their fence. That video would be worth orders of magnitude more for PR purposes if they released it. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
- bluedino 14y agoWouldn't it be easier to just take a backhoe to the data lines running to the bunker?
- leethax0r 14y agoWouldn't it just be easier to, I dunno, unplug something? Or turn something off? Why would you fuck up the lines...
- flopunctro 14y agoYou can't "turn off" that bunker, it has multiple diesel generators and lots of fuel reserves. It also has clean water reserves and air filtering capabilities, so you can't gas the people inside. Physically cutting its uplink lines would be IMHO the most efficient way to neutralize that datacenter.
- olefoo 14y agoOr just getting all their peering exchanges to null route packets in and out. Advantage being that it's cheaper, more effective and less lawsuit prone.
- knowaveragejoe 14y agoThere is, of course, the other end of the cable connecting to the rest of the world... no need to actually cut the cable. You could do it with software alone really.
- sounds 14y agoI also enjoyed their "thumb my nose at the SWAT team" attitude. However, realistically speaking it would be very, very simple to get their attention. With one shovel: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704630004576249013084603344.html http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142405274870463000457624...
- danso 14y agoI tried to tweet that link. But I guess SpamHaus's blacklist really works. Twitter gave me this error: Oops! A URL in your Tweet appears to link to a page that has spammy or unsafe content. Learn more
- TazeTSchnitzel 14y agoHaha, wow. I can see why they're mad.
- blhack 14y agoIf you wash it through bit.ly, it's fine: http://bit.ly/Xc4RQc http://bit.ly/Xc4RQc
- tomjen3 14y agoI can't even load the webpage -- no warning, just a could not connect. If this is caused by spamhause then I support the other guys. Censorship is worse than spam.
- eridius 14y agoI don't think that's caused by Spamhaus. Possibly fallout of the attack? I'm having no problems connecting, although the page doesn't want to finish loading. Spamhaus identifies spammers. They don't take down websites or block connections.
- jepper 14y agoIts most certainly fake. That is dutch riot police. We don't have SWAT teams but "arrest teams". They definitely don't wear white helmets. They definitely don't just trow around flash bangs. And the kicker, knowing dutch police bureaucracy, they did not get a refund this quick.
- onemorepassword 14y agoNothing Sven Kamphuis says should be taken seriously. He's a raving lunatic and a fantasist with delusions of grandeur. Everything he does however should be taken very seriously. He has the technical chops (old school hacker) and the means and criminal connections to back it up.
- caycep 14y agoHowever, their weakness is that they do only have a limited supply of Fritos and Dr. Pepper inside said bunker.
- dan1234 14y agoThis would be more believable if they'd posted the surveillance video.