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Issue 224182 - chromium - Chrome wakes me up in the middle of the night
- isaacwaller 14y agoI think the problem is that the user has set Chrome to run on boot. If he removed Chrome from the startup list this problem would not occur.
- brokenparser 14y agoI think the problem is that the user still had his/her speakers turned on. They should've been turned off or muted, same with his/her cellphone (if any).
- 1qaz2wsx3edc 14y agoI can confirm this solution works for me.
- fakeer 14y agoI switch off my computer before going to bed. Never wakes me up.
- bcoates 14y agoI don't think it's necessary to set Chrome to run on every boot, I think it's registering to be restarted once after the unattended reboot that Windows Update is doing. edit: Yep, it's calling RegisterApplicationRestart: https://code.google.com/p/chromium/codesearch#search/&q=registerapplicationrestart&sq=package:chromium&type=cs https://code.google.com/p/chromium/codesearch#search/&q=...
- zem 14y agowell, it would still restart all his plugin-based media streams when he reopened chrome, which is the underlying bug. but yeah, it would be a decidedly less monsterful experience.
- yanw 14y agoCute. One "solution" of course is to set the 'On startup' setting to anything other than 'continue where I left off.'.
- anigbrowl 14y agoWell, I go to a lot of the same pages every day, so I very much want to continue whee I left off, but not necessarily to start playing media at once. you know what I'd love (all you enterprising Chrome plugin developers): let me view and manage my open tabs through the same sort of large icon interface that appears on the New Tab page. I wouldn't mind being able to organize my bookmarks that way either. I can't understand why nobody has attempted to do anything different with the bookmark interface for years now.
- ygra 14y agoIt's not the setting. Chrome automatically continues there when it's closed by Windows restarting. The idea is that applications that are open will return to the same state when the computer restarts. This is separate from the user closing the program and launching it again.
- canadev 14y agoFirefox 'solves' this by only loading tabs that have been given the focus upon auto-restart. So, if you have 10 tabs opened, and your computer restarts and Firefox is opened, the only tab that will actually load is the one that was last active.
- fakeer 14y ago>> "by only loading tabs" and then "the only tab" So, Firefox opens tabs or tab (as in juts one tab or many/all tabs)? Because in my case it opens all the tabs and if there were 20, it opens all. Even though the last time I opened them was 3-4 hours before the browser was closed/crashed. update: I had missed the point. Thanks @thirtian for clearing up.
- thristian 14y agoFirefox displays the tabs in the tab-bar, but it doesn't bother loading the page until the first time you switch to the tab. Also, pinned tabs are always loaded at startup.
- tomedme 14y agoThere is an option in the settings to load tabs automatically or when clicked on, upon browser restart.
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- benatkin 14y agoI don't like this. It just feels like Firefox is being lazy to me. I notice I have to wait a second or two when I switch to another tab. This is annoying because I remember seeing the page load before I restarted. My subconscious doesn't realize that it was a different process. I'd rather my browser and everything else involved work a little harder to give me the illusion that nothing has changed after I restart.
- ck2 14y agoGood bug to address but who allows Windows to power itself up and install updates unsupervised? Not a good idea.
- recursive 14y agoI'm not sure whether it's a good idea, but it's the default.
- pilif 14y agoWhy not? Do you manually install the patches coming down every month? Do you put all of them through some validation? On your home machine? How are you doing this validation? I mean aside of installing a patch and uninstalling it when you come across an issue? Having an unpatched windows machine is a way bigger risk than some patch not quite working right and by installing the updates when you are not in front of your machine, you don't risk either interrupting your work for the reboot or remain being unpatched pending the reboot you are postponing. As the bug report makes a reference to both Netflix and sleeping, I would assume this is a home user, not a corporate one where the patches get reviewed quickly.
- masklinn 14y ago> Why not? Do you manually install the patches coming down every month? yes, but that's so I control the moment of restart since I always have a bunch of transient stuff running, once I get the update alerts I can download & install then slowly wind down transient state until I'm ready to reboot the machine. That may take a day or 2.
- mitchty 14y agoEven if so, what would change about it if you were watching it? If the patch goes boom, does it matter if you were watching the process?
- rquantz 14y agoYes, because the little warning pops up asking if you want to postpone restart.
- ashleyblackmore 14y ago"This is serious. Though it never occurred on my computer because I use neither Windows nor Chrome but I support this anyway in the name of humanity." In the name of humanity, wouldn't it be nice if people were in the habit of shutting their computers down, rather than letting them burn through electricity all night long?
- cvanderlinden 14y agoYeah well, we don't!
- ashleyblackmore 14y agoExcuse me, I couldn't hear you over my own goddamn tree-hugging self-righteousness! ^_^
- notimetorelax 14y agoIIRC Windows turns itself on to install updates and then shuts down.
- dublinben 14y agoIt will actually restart after installing updates and make you wonder why none of your programs from the night before are still running.
- joosters 14y agoIt's worse if you've encrypted your hard drive. After a 3am windows update, my Sony laptop reboots and stops at the Truecrypt 'enter your password' boot prompt. But at this pre-boot point, there's no OS power-saving. So the CPU is at 100%, the laptop fan spins up to hurricane levels, and the dumb thing just sits there for the rest of the night like an overpriced fan heater.
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- timothya 14y agoI run into similar situations whenever I restart my browser. All of the YouTube tabs I had open from before start playing simultaneously (at any given time I often have some tabs with videos paused, ready for me to watch later). It's quite distracting and takes some effort to find and stop them all. I think a good solution for both of our problems would be to not load any of the Flash content in a particular tab if the tab hasn't received focus since the application was restarted. Once I open that tab, the plugin can load at that point and then the video can start playing.
- calebegg 14y agoSafari implements your solution. Though I wonder if it would even help if their Netflix tab was the focused one; for that case, it would also have to wait for some user interaction or something, which seems messier.
- guiambros 14y agoMy solution was to switch to YouTube's HTML5 player. No more tabs crashing left and right. And the YouTube Options extension is great, and solves the problem of auto play (besides adding a ton of extra features; downloads included).
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- halfasleep 14y agoFirefox does something like this. It doesn't load tab content on restart until the tab gains focus.
- recursive 14y agoThis has happened to me multiple times.
- notdonspaulding 14y agoAnyone care to guess what kind of creative "Closed:..." tag this bug gets?
- yen223 14y ago"Closed: User told to watch something less scary"
- mschuster91 14y agoYoutube is harmless. Have three different porn sites open when restarting Chrome after a power loss and then listening to three porns at once... ouch.
- TazeTSchnitzel 14y agoIncognito mode.
- skeletonjelly 14y agoFeels like amateur hour!
- ggreer 14y agoOne sort-of-workaround is to enable plugin click-to-play. It's less convenient, but it has other advantages. It prevents Flash content from annoying you unexpectedly (such as on every band website ever). It also adds a small bit of safety if there's ever a 0-day for Flash. Instead of getting exploited as soon as you visit any infected page, you'd at least have to click on an embed that you wanted to watch or play. Unfortunately, this doesn't help for sites that use HTML5 for media. As more sites start using HTML5, I think demand for a ClickToHTML5 option/extension will rise.
- hallomac2013 14y agoStop using Windows. Problem solved.
- lucb1e 14y agoWould not have downvoted if it weren't for your username.
- hallomac2013 14y agoGood point :)
- nabaraj 14y agoI donot really understand why Chrome needs to be on startup. Can we not click a taskbar icon and start it whenever we want?
- tomp 14y agoThe biggest issue I have with Chrome restoring tabs is that it completely hogs my computer and internet connection while requesting, downloading and rendering all the pages. To solve it, I simply turn off wi-fi when restarting Chrome, so that all the tabs reopen, but are not reloaded. The URLs are restored, and I can reload them exactly when I want to.
- skeletonjelly 14y agoHello fellow tab addict! I must have about 30-40 tabs I restore every day out of laziness and fear of bookmarking and never reading again. Someone posted to HN an extension to help with this but I forget what it's called. Also Firefox has a nice solution to your problem in that it only loads the tabs once you click on them.
- lucb1e 14y agoIn fifty years we'll tell to our grandchildren: "Back in my day, we had to turn WiFi off before starting our browser after a crash, because it would not load when connected to the inter(galactic)net". They'll pity us I'm sure!
- spulver 14y agoI like that :-)
- fyi80 14y agoThat's a bug, report it. Chrome makes an effort to queue the tab-loads gracefully.
- qompiler 14y agoThe other problem is windows getting out of sleep mode to install updates without even asking.
- kokey 14y agoLast year I was woken up in the middle of the night by my girlfriend, who was terrified by a voice that seems to come from the lounge. I got up, opened the door, and there was a bright white light. My girlfriend was even more terrified since she could only see me and the light shining on me from the lounge. It was the television. It turns out that when we were channel surfing earlier in the evening, we switched to a channel that wasn't broadcasting anything, got distracted, and the television goes into sleep mode after a while when it's on such a channel. At 3am they started broadcasting some video loop, basically of a white background with a little text, and a woman's voice announcing something.
- philbarr 14y agoI watched The Ring once and must have left the TV on, because later that night I woke up to a light coming from the living room. I went in and the TV was doing the "white noise / static" thing exactly like in the movie. I turned it off, unplugged it from the wall and thought, "ok, if that happens again I can officially shit myself."
- omilu 14y agoBack in the 80s, i got home from school and started loading some karate game on my c64, the load time was like 10minutes, when it was done it played a sound bite of a long drawn out, growling , karate punch sound HIIIIYahhhhh!!!!, I turned the volume up to full blast so I could hear it when it was done, and went downstairs to heat up a burrito. I'm home by myself and I'm like in the 4th grade, anyway I guess I forgot about the game and I'm eating my burrito when I hear the horrendously loud growling hiyah, it sounded like zombie apocalypse, I shit myself and ran outside, I've never been so scared in my life. I found my friend on the street and told him there was a ghost in my house. We grabbed some sticks and went inside, totally shitting, only to find the game ready to play. I felt like a dumbshit.
- tomelders 14y agoI absolutely despise this trend of having software open stuff up automatically as if it's somehow helping. OS X is the biggest offender, for example; when Photoshop decides to just freak out opening a file, so you close photoshop, then reopen and it tries to reopen all your old files, including the one that's causing the problems. What sort of sadist wants 10 PSDs to open all at once? I miss the good old days when you could reboot your machine and everything was fresh and pristine and yours to mess up.
- hesselink 14y agoYou can configure this on OS X. In the General preferences, there is an option 'Close windows when quitting an application'.
- tomelders 14y agoI know this now, but like most people, I learned the hard way. And for some reasons, Pages, Numbers and Keynote seem to ignore this setting and continue to open up every file they can get their grubby little mitts on with gay abandon.
- snowwrestler 14y agoI just looked--this is checked by default on my installation of Mountain Lion.
- laurent123456 14y agoIn Chrome, this is optional, by default it just opens a blank tab. The user in the bug report chose the option "Continue where I left off".
- leoedin 14y agoI've never selected that option in Chrome, and yet when my computer restarts from Windows Updates it displays the behaviour mentioned in the bug report. When I start Chrome normally, I get a blank tab, but when my computer is forcibly restarted with Chrome running, it tries to take me back to where I was.
- noisy_boy 14y agoI use external speakers. They have a power button. I turn them off when I'm away.
- lucb1e 14y agoI don't use external speakers, that also solves the problem
- denzil_correa 14y agoAn important comment on the bug from a Chromium employee [0] Hacker News crowd, let's please stop the "me too" party here, and please file separate bugs for separate issues (even if they're similar). Keeping the signal-to-noise ratio sane on this one raises the chances that it gets addressed :) So you can help by only commenting if you have technical comments on how to fix the problem in Chrome. It'd be a shame if we had to lock this bug to prevent further useless comments. [0] https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=224182#c24 https://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=224182#c...
- h2s 14y agoYou can always tell if something is garbage on here by looking at the average length of the comments. Almost every single comment on this link is an inane one-liner that adds nothing to any meaningful discussion. And lo and behold, it's the same sort of shitty discussion as on the bug report itself. Compare this with the comments on the 21 Nested Callbacks link: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5447287 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5447287
- gozmike 14y agoAgreed. I'd pay for a Chrome extension that would score HN stories by this metric.
- donretag 14y agoReminds me of all the +1 comments on GitHub issues. They add nothing to the conversation and you can easily subscribe to an issue by clicking the "watch" button.
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- rmp2150 14y agoYour comment is no better.
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- dnissley 14y agoI'm confused, does windows update restore previously running applications after restarting windows to install updates? Or do those affected have chrome set to run at startup?
- moheeb 14y agoA Windows Update restart will restore applications running at the time of the restart. It generally does a pretty good job of it too.
- piotr_krzyzek 14y agoI blame this 'issue' on the op. True there are many potential paths that the Chrome/chromium developers can take with this, but they've chosen a different path from Firefox and others and as a user of Chrome that's what we have to stick with now. If you don't like the behavior, there are ways to change it yourself: * Install flash blocking plugin * Enable click-to-play * Install a plugin that disabled auto-play (at least for youtube, don't know about a netflix one) * Put the computer to sleep/hibernate * Turn off speakers * Turn off the computer ... * Close the netflix tab There are many many options. If you don't like closing out chrome because you'll be missing your tabs, then use a plugin like "Session Manager" and then save your currently open tabs, and then close Chrome. I don't think this is a bug. I think it works just fine. Heck, I don't know which setting I have but if chrome crashes or if I restart my computer without nicely closing chrome, Chrome will re-open upon boot BUT it'll open a new blank tab with a bar at the top that says something like "Chrome didn't shut down properly. Do you want to restore your old tabs?" ... that works extremely well.
- grimman 14y agoYou don't even need a session manager. Much like Firefox it has the option to reopen the tabs from your previous session, right there in the settings!
- lucastheisen 14y agoThis is a perfect bug report. Humor, steps to reproduce, a real world problem... This would be a bug I chose to work on as soon as possible (if it turns out it is something that can be fixed in this project alone).
- Siecje 14y agoYou can set Chrome to not restore tabs when restarted
- whalesalad 14y agoJust close the Netflix tab before you sleep. I hate my generation.