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Visualizing the relationship between hipsters and PBR
- zallarak 14y agoThis is too cool! I can only imagine what sort of other interesting relationships exist. Data like this offers the opportunity to answer some modern-day anthropological questions, especially in conjunction with other data sources.
- stdclass 14y agoThe font-color you use in your blog is so horrible to read!
- marcua 14y agoThanks for the feedback! Sending to our designer!:)
- stdclass 14y agoThanks for fixing it so quickly :)
- karlshea 14y agoAlso trying to read it on an iPhone is a big fail. Full-sized site locked to a giant zoom level.
- marcua 14y agoThanks a bunch! On it!
- peter_l_downs 14y agoFixed — removed the 'user-scalable=no' that came by default with the Tumblr theme.
- peter_l_downs 14y agoShould now be fixed — try refreshing (make sure to clear the cache)!
- gphil 14y agoLiked the article, would have loved to have seen Philly (where I live.) I have a hunch PBR would beat out Bud Light in a lot of spots... Another piece of feedback: you should link to your startup's main page more prominently--I didn't find the link at first so I had to type in locu.com to see it.
- marcua 14y agoAwesome! We're looking into making a more general-purpose city explorer. And thanks for the feedback---we're on it!
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- blhack 14y agoI am so sick of this term "hipster". It has become watered down to the point of complete meaninglessness. I swear it has become a catchall for the world-of-warcraft set to apply to anybody that doesn't spend their time playing video games. Ride a bike? HIPSTER! Wear jeans? HIPSTER! Listen to music? HIPSTER! Like art? HIPSTER! Enjoy non-sports-bars? HIPSTER! Drink coffee? HIPSTER! Like unpopular films? HIPSTER! It's ridiculous, and seeing people actually use this term as though "hipster" is a cohesive group is embarrassing. I drink PBR as my "stapble" beer. Why? Because it's cheap, and it tastes okay, and because I live in Arizona, and when I come inside from riding my bike (HIPSTER!) or walking my dog (hipster?) drinking some giant craft brew sounds terrible.
- rm999 14y agoYour criticism is off-base. Yes, some people have watered down the label hipster, but the communities this article discusses contain a much more pure form of hipster than what's entailed in the ordinary things you list. I spend a decent amount of time in Williamsburg and Bushwick, and a lot of the people there call themselves hipsters and live a lifestyle consistent with the stereotype. Your comment is analogous to complaining that Big Bang Theory has watered down the word 'nerd', so now someone can no longer extrapolate patterns he finds at MIT and comic-con and describe them as nerd culture. It's a bad argument because those labels still hold cultural meaning, regardless of how some people have abused the labels.
- resu_nimda 14y ago> Your comment is analogous to complaining that Big Bang Theory has watered down the word 'nerd', so now someone can no longer extrapolate patterns he finds at MIT and comic-con and describe them as nerd culture. I don't see how the second clause follows from the first. Maybe it's just different definitions of "watered down." I think things like Big Bang Theory and the assimilation of nerd culture into the mainstream have watered it down, and are analogous. MIT and comic-con are still nerd culture, but now all these other things are too, so that when you say the word "nerd" to someone, you have no idea what it means to them. It could be "true nerd culture" or anything else. Words like nerd and hipster used to have meaning; in other words, they were controversial, polarizing terms that triggered emotional responses and strong opinions. Now they're very general and common descriptions, that's what is meant by watered down.
- moheeb 14y agoThey'll all be drinking Old Milwaukee in a couple years.
- dubya 14y agoHas someone actually paid $10+ for a Bud Light?? There appear to be some issues with the data. I can see $4 and maybe $6 at a bar or restaurant, but $10-12 will get you a whole pitcher of drinkable beer. How was the data collected?
- peterwwillis 14y agoYou can get a bud light on South Beach for $25.
- bradleyjg 14y agoAt fancy bars they want you to buy the $15 cocktail, but they'll begrudgingly give you a $10 Bud Light if you insist. Also, stadiums and strip clubs.
- juan_juarez 14y agoThings in parts of NYC are extremely expensive. Doubly so if you're in an upscale club. It's not that the beer is more expensive, it's that the cost of the labor involved in serving it to you and the real estate you're consuming it in cost more.
- narag 14y agoHipster is a puzzling word for this non-native English reader. Dictionaries say that it's people with unconventional and modern tastes in music, clothes... I had detected an unexplained negative tone whenever I see it used. Now this article seems to suggest that there's also an economic factor. That would explain it. So instead of "modernos" I guess I should translate it as "pijos".
- pnathan 14y agohipster is a subculture which has been around maybe ten years. It's fairly amorphous, and any dictionary which mentions it is almost certainly not quite correct. I'd reckon that the key characteristics of hipster are some fuzzy idea of "authenticity", as well as a certain styling of preferred art. This often manifests itself in preferring bands that are just getting started and various curios that reflect a more primitive time. Unsophisticated bikes and a preference for 'irony' are also hallmarks of the idea. Your mileage will vary.
- bjterry 14y agoHipster is an older word that has been co-opted more recently to describe a contemporary subculture, so it's not surprising that dictionaries have it wrong. Also, the subculture itself is a little bit difficult to pin down because many of its members (as judged by outside observers) wouldn't identify as hipsters, necessarily. More can be found at Wikipedia, although the page is of mixed quality. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipster_%28contemporary_subculture%29 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hipster_%28contemporary_subcult...
- lolcraft 14y agoAdd to that "gafapastas".
- mdpye 14y agoGafapasta is probably the best choice I'm aware of. Pijo doesn't carry art-geek creds or suggest youth.
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- columbo 14y agoI'd be interest to see the same heat map with an overlay of average median income for each district. PBR might be a hipster thing, or it could be more of an indicator for a lower-income district. Also, I wonder if chains were included as they could skew the results.
- marcua 14y agoWe're actually as interested as you in this. Doing data analysis on hipsters was fun, but we're hoping it's the start of much deeper and more meaningful studies. Joining our data with other macro- and micro-economic datasets will be awesome, as will looking at the data over time to build things like cost of living indices. As to your chain question: they are included, and we're hoping to build a data explorer that lets folks like you filter down the data to make analyses more sound, as you suggest. You can do that sort of stuff right now on our API at http://dev.locu.com/ http://dev.locu.com/. Let me know if you need help along the way!
- JPKab 14y agoPBR is certainly not a popular beer with lower income drinkers. It's priced higher than comparable lagers. It didn't used to be, but then it became popular with a certain group of people.
- teebs 14y agoI think the relationship between PBR and hipsters is not that hipsters like PBR, but rather that dive bars sell PBR, and hipsters like dive bars (because they're cheap, "real," and not mainstream). As someone from Portland, OR that went to college on the East Coast, I drink a lot more PBR in college than in bars at home. At home, Hamm's, Old German, Rainier, and other beers are common, cooler, and just as cheap. PBR is just cheap.
- mynewwork 14y agoHow can you publish an article on hipsters without covering Austin or Portland?