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You don't sound like much fun. I work with many women and men... We are all make horrible sex jokes throughout the day. Are you the guy sitting by yourself at l

by clubhi 14y ago

You don't sound like much fun. I work with many women and men... We are all make horrible sex jokes throughout the day. Are you the guy sitting by yourself at lunch?

katbyte 14y ago
i worked at a place like that once, it was pretty boring and stale. I worked with co-wrokers. Now i work some place like yours! (with both other women and men) and its great. I work with friends and acquaintances now not co-workers.
groby_b 14y ago
No, I happen to be the woman who actually enjoys hanging out with her current colleagues - who all strangely managed to grow up past puberty.
- devilshaircut 14y ago
  I respect women like youself so I will reply in the same way I would reply to any male poster on this forum. What reality do you live in? Do you honestly think it is only prepubescent teens who make jokes involving sex and reproductive organs? Do you further deny that such jokes can actually be funny? I'm not going to debate what is work appropriate. But I think you grossly mischaracterize the nature of people and humor in a very broad way.
  - DanBC 14y ago
    > Do you further deny that such jokes can actually be funny? I know lots of jokes about Jews or homosexuals or mad people that are very funny. I'd never tell those jokes at work, or at a conference, or in the presence of anyone who wasn't a very close friend.
    - jdmichal 14y ago
      I like how the only thing you add to the conversation is the exact thing that the person you're replying to said they weren't going to discuss...
    - devilshaircut 14y ago
      "I'm not going to debate what is work appropriate." As pointed out by a previous poster, I would appreciate it you took the time to understand that this was not the crux of what I was saying. Work appropriateness aside, the idea that only juveniles could possibly enjoy such a joke is ... laughable.
  - groby_b 14y ago
    No, but I think only pubescent teens enjoy telling those jokes to as wide an audience as possible. They might well be funny, but what's funny to one person can be hurtful to another person. Which is why you keep that kind of humor out of the workplace (and the public). That's the whole point. Not that jokes like that are told. I find it sad that some of the ones being told are utterly degrading, and I'd hope people would let go of those, but as far as sex jokes in a group of friends go? Sure. Have at it. They have consented. At work, I have not consented to be subject to those jokes, and there is no reason to tell them. That is what this is about.
- heili 14y ago
  I would treat you professionally and avoid making any references to anything more controversial than toast in your presence. But I also wouldn't invite you to any outside of work social activities either, because you sound like a buzzkill.
  - king_jester 14y ago
    > But I also wouldn't invite you to any outside of work social activities either, because you sound like a buzzkill. This is actually one of the problems with folks being able to speak up in an office environment to challenge sexist or racist "jokes". Very often said humor isn't even humor and is used by a privileged group to disparage another. If someone calls that out, they can face social exclusion from their colleges, esp. if those colleges don't think that racism or sexism is a big deal. In such a situation, the person who feels uncomfortable can say nothing and continue to be a part of the group or they can say something and suddenly find themselves on the outside of the group, which for work has big consequences like losing access to resources needed to do your job, being passed up for promotion, etc.
    - heili 14y ago
      That's just too fucking bad, innit? I'm not about to apologize for the fact that I don't invite people into my circle of friends if I'm going to have to constantly be on guard to watch what I say around them in case some dick or fart joke offends them and they go running to HR to tattle on me. I don't much care if that hypersensitive whinypants is male, female, or self identifying as a tree squirrel - I'm not going to spend every waking minute that I'm around other human beings moderating my every word like I'm on goddamn Sesame Street. If that wet-blanket who can't have fun doesn't get promoted because nobody actually likes being around them enough to want to spend 10 or more hours a day with them, it's not my problem and I'm not going to hold their hand and wipe their tears. They need to grow a thicker skin or learn to enjoy life outside the fold.
    - jdmichal 14y ago
      There is no solution to this problem. It is simply the nature of being social. If I like talking about X, and another person doesn't, then I'm simply not going to talk with them, because they don't like talking about the things I do. Yes, X can be sexual innuendo jokes. But X can also be computers, or board games, or gardening. This is simply how being a social entity with differing world views works.
- clubhi 14y ago
  Your comment about puberty is pretty offensive.

by clubhi 14y ago

You don't sound like much fun. I work with many women and men... We are all make horrible sex jokes throughout the day. Are you the guy sitting by yourself at lunch?

katbyte 14y ago

i worked at a place like that once, it was pretty boring and stale. I worked with co-wrokers. Now i work some place like yours! (with both other women and men) and its great. I work with friends and acquaintances now not co-workers.

groby_b 14y ago

No, I happen to be the woman who actually enjoys hanging out with her current colleagues - who all strangely managed to grow up past puberty.

devilshaircut 14y ago
I respect women like youself so I will reply in the same way I would reply to any male poster on this forum. What reality do you live in? Do you honestly think it is only prepubescent teens who make jokes involving sex and reproductive organs? Do you further deny that such jokes can actually be funny? I'm not going to debate what is work appropriate. But I think you grossly mischaracterize the nature of people and humor in a very broad way.
- DanBC 14y ago
  > Do you further deny that such jokes can actually be funny? I know lots of jokes about Jews or homosexuals or mad people that are very funny. I'd never tell those jokes at work, or at a conference, or in the presence of anyone who wasn't a very close friend.
  - jdmichal 14y ago
    I like how the only thing you add to the conversation is the exact thing that the person you're replying to said they weren't going to discuss...
  - devilshaircut 14y ago
    "I'm not going to debate what is work appropriate." As pointed out by a previous poster, I would appreciate it you took the time to understand that this was not the crux of what I was saying. Work appropriateness aside, the idea that only juveniles could possibly enjoy such a joke is ... laughable.
- groby_b 14y ago
  No, but I think only pubescent teens enjoy telling those jokes to as wide an audience as possible. They might well be funny, but what's funny to one person can be hurtful to another person. Which is why you keep that kind of humor out of the workplace (and the public). That's the whole point. Not that jokes like that are told. I find it sad that some of the ones being told are utterly degrading, and I'd hope people would let go of those, but as far as sex jokes in a group of friends go? Sure. Have at it. They have consented. At work, I have not consented to be subject to those jokes, and there is no reason to tell them. That is what this is about.
heili 14y ago
I would treat you professionally and avoid making any references to anything more controversial than toast in your presence. But I also wouldn't invite you to any outside of work social activities either, because you sound like a buzzkill.
- king_jester 14y ago
  > But I also wouldn't invite you to any outside of work social activities either, because you sound like a buzzkill. This is actually one of the problems with folks being able to speak up in an office environment to challenge sexist or racist "jokes". Very often said humor isn't even humor and is used by a privileged group to disparage another. If someone calls that out, they can face social exclusion from their colleges, esp. if those colleges don't think that racism or sexism is a big deal. In such a situation, the person who feels uncomfortable can say nothing and continue to be a part of the group or they can say something and suddenly find themselves on the outside of the group, which for work has big consequences like losing access to resources needed to do your job, being passed up for promotion, etc.
  - heili 14y ago
    That's just too fucking bad, innit? I'm not about to apologize for the fact that I don't invite people into my circle of friends if I'm going to have to constantly be on guard to watch what I say around them in case some dick or fart joke offends them and they go running to HR to tattle on me. I don't much care if that hypersensitive whinypants is male, female, or self identifying as a tree squirrel - I'm not going to spend every waking minute that I'm around other human beings moderating my every word like I'm on goddamn Sesame Street. If that wet-blanket who can't have fun doesn't get promoted because nobody actually likes being around them enough to want to spend 10 or more hours a day with them, it's not my problem and I'm not going to hold their hand and wipe their tears. They need to grow a thicker skin or learn to enjoy life outside the fold.
  - jdmichal 14y ago
    There is no solution to this problem. It is simply the nature of being social. If I like talking about X, and another person doesn't, then I'm simply not going to talk with them, because they don't like talking about the things I do. Yes, X can be sexual innuendo jokes. But X can also be computers, or board games, or gardening. This is simply how being a social entity with differing world views works.
clubhi 14y ago
Your comment about puberty is pretty offensive.