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Wait - being treated with professional courtesy is a privilege women have? Why did nobody ever tell me? Sex jokes have no place in the work place. Period. No m
by groby_b 14y ago
Wait - being treated with professional courtesy is a privilege women have? Why did nobody ever tell me?
Sex jokes have no place in the work place. Period. No matter the gender of the narrator or the audience.
- tomp 14y agoI disagree. I like jokes, even sex jokes, even at the workplace. However, it depends on company culture and policy, which should not be changed simply because one employee feels uncomfortable, even if it's a woman (or maybe the policy dictates that in such case the culture should be changed; nevertheless, gender shouldn't matter).
- pixelcloud 14y agopyCon clearly set their expectations for their guests during this event. I think if the "community" has such a large issue with it, they can stop attending conferences that don't adhere to their social expectations. (pyCon would not get any smaller though)
- clubhi 14y agoYou don't sound like much fun. I work with many women and men... We are all make horrible sex jokes throughout the day. Are you the guy sitting by yourself at lunch?
- katbyte 14y agoi worked at a place like that once, it was pretty boring and stale. I worked with co-wrokers. Now i work some place like yours! (with both other women and men) and its great. I work with friends and acquaintances now not co-workers.
- groby_b 14y agoNo, I happen to be the woman who actually enjoys hanging out with her current colleagues - who all strangely managed to grow up past puberty.
- devilshaircut 14y agoI respect women like youself so I will reply in the same way I would reply to any male poster on this forum. What reality do you live in? Do you honestly think it is only prepubescent teens who make jokes involving sex and reproductive organs? Do you further deny that such jokes can actually be funny? I'm not going to debate what is work appropriate. But I think you grossly mischaracterize the nature of people and humor in a very broad way.
- DanBC 14y ago> Do you further deny that such jokes can actually be funny? I know lots of jokes about Jews or homosexuals or mad people that are very funny. I'd never tell those jokes at work, or at a conference, or in the presence of anyone who wasn't a very close friend.
- jdmichal 14y agoI like how the only thing you add to the conversation is the exact thing that the person you're replying to said they weren't going to discuss...
- devilshaircut 14y ago"I'm not going to debate what is work appropriate." As pointed out by a previous poster, I would appreciate it you took the time to understand that this was not the crux of what I was saying. Work appropriateness aside, the idea that only juveniles could possibly enjoy such a joke is ... laughable.
- groby_b 14y agoNo, but I think only pubescent teens enjoy telling those jokes to as wide an audience as possible. They might well be funny, but what's funny to one person can be hurtful to another person. Which is why you keep that kind of humor out of the workplace (and the public). That's the whole point. Not that jokes like that are told. I find it sad that some of the ones being told are utterly degrading, and I'd hope people would let go of those, but as far as sex jokes in a group of friends go? Sure. Have at it. They have consented. At work, I have not consented to be subject to those jokes, and there is no reason to tell them. That is what this is about.
- darkarmani 14y ago> being treated with professional courtesy is a privilege Did any of the people involved act with professional courtesy?
- groby_b 14y agoQuoting from the post I replied to > women want to be equal, but they want to keep certain privileges. They want to be accepted by men in tech as equals, but be spared sex jokes So, according to that, being spared sex jokes is a privilege that women enjoy. It also happens to fall under professional courtesy. Hence my comment. None of that is directly related to the people involved.