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Nick's words: It had been my final year university project I had been working on for a couple of months

by fakeer 14y ago

yitchelle 14y ago
True, but "my final year university project" has many different possible explanations, and it is analogous to one of the iPad developer saying that "my project is the iPad" but doesn't mean that the IP belongs to the iPad developer.
pbhjpbhj 14y ago
Often that means that the university claims rights in the IP produced, certainly [way back] when I matriculated it was required of all students to sign a waiver giving rights to the Uni for any works created whilst being a student. The first I heard about it was at the matriculation table when I'd already gone up. Perhaps this sort of thing doesn't happen elsewhere or as been deemed inappropriate.
- niggler 14y ago
  It does happen in most US universities, but it's not something you normally ask about.
- incongruity 14y ago
  That isn't/wasn't the case at either of my undergrad or graduate institutions – in fact, at my graduate program, the official policy on student work is that it is ours and if a team project, we all had non-exclusive rights to the work. Just a small anecdotal datapoint.
- eslaught 14y ago
  This is only true for graduate programs where the school is paying for your tuition via a research or teaching assistanceship. For undergraduates, who traditionally pay for their own tuition, or for graduate students under scholarship, they own all of their own work.
  - cube13 14y ago
    >For undergraduates, who traditionally pay for their own tuition, or for graduate students under scholarship, they own all of their own work. This depends on what the work's being done for. If it's for a class or a credit giving research project, the university usually does own the IP in most cases. However, if it's a side project that's not using any of the university's resources, the university shouldn't have any rights to it.
    - eslaught 14y ago
      Where I have been (in the US), work done for a course is always owned by the person who is paying for the course, which in the case of an undergraduate paying their own tuition, is the student. Basically, the person paying owns the work. If you pay, then you own it.
  - pyrocat 14y ago
    This wasn't the case at my school, as an undergrad.
- hablahaha 14y ago
  My university owns anything you make while you are a student there. The example they used was something along the lines of: if you worked on it only in your dorm room and it had nothing to do with the university and received zero university funding, it was still theirs and you couldn't ever file a patent on it.
  - michaelbuddy 14y ago
    that doesn't really work.
  - rhizome 14y ago
    Your current university? Please do paste the relevant passages where this ownership is specified. Inquiring minds want to know!
    - brownbat 14y ago
      There are several links to University IP policies here: http://www.adec.edu/user/ip-policies.html http://www.adec.edu/user/ip-policies.html Most of them exempt things made on your own time. University of Kentucky claims rights to almost anything (even "drawings") students make while in any of "certain University units" (including the "Computing Center"): http://www.adec.edu/intellectualproperty/uky.html http://www.adec.edu/intellectualproperty/uky.html It's not clear whether a dorm room is one of those "certain University units" or not. I don't think so, but it'd depend on the phrasing of the dorm room mission statement. These policies are not trivial to sort out...
      - brownbat 14y ago
        Ooh, my new favorite is North Carolina A&T State University: "We don't have any such policies in place at this time. The university has initiated a faculty interest group which meets regularly to discuss these issues and similiar DL opportunities. Some interesting things are coming out these discussions." http://www.adec.edu/intellectualproperty/ncat.html http://www.adec.edu/intellectualproperty/ncat.html
mturmon 14y ago
Yes, that is part of one side of the story. But as mentioned, we don't know the whole story.

Nick's words: It had been my final year university project I had been working on for a couple of months

by fakeer 14y ago

Nick's words: It had been my final year university project I had been working on for a couple of months

True, but "my final year university project" has many different possible explanations, and it is analogous to one of the iPad developer saying that "my project is the iPad" but doesn't mean that the IP belongs to the iPad developer.

pbhjpbhj 14y ago

Often that means that the university claims rights in the IP produced, certainly [way back] when I matriculated it was required of all students to sign a waiver giving rights to the Uni for any works created whilst being a student. The first I heard about it was at the matriculation table when I'd already gone up. Perhaps this sort of thing doesn't happen elsewhere or as been deemed inappropriate.

niggler 14y ago
It does happen in most US universities, but it's not something you normally ask about.
incongruity 14y ago
That isn't/wasn't the case at either of my undergrad or graduate institutions – in fact, at my graduate program, the official policy on student work is that it is ours and if a team project, we all had non-exclusive rights to the work. Just a small anecdotal datapoint.
eslaught 14y ago
This is only true for graduate programs where the school is paying for your tuition via a research or teaching assistanceship. For undergraduates, who traditionally pay for their own tuition, or for graduate students under scholarship, they own all of their own work.
- cube13 14y ago
  >For undergraduates, who traditionally pay for their own tuition, or for graduate students under scholarship, they own all of their own work. This depends on what the work's being done for. If it's for a class or a credit giving research project, the university usually does own the IP in most cases. However, if it's a side project that's not using any of the university's resources, the university shouldn't have any rights to it.
  - eslaught 14y ago
    Where I have been (in the US), work done for a course is always owned by the person who is paying for the course, which in the case of an undergraduate paying their own tuition, is the student. Basically, the person paying owns the work. If you pay, then you own it.
- pyrocat 14y ago
  This wasn't the case at my school, as an undergrad.
hablahaha 14y ago
My university owns anything you make while you are a student there. The example they used was something along the lines of: if you worked on it only in your dorm room and it had nothing to do with the university and received zero university funding, it was still theirs and you couldn't ever file a patent on it.
- michaelbuddy 14y ago
  that doesn't really work.
- rhizome 14y ago
  Your current university? Please do paste the relevant passages where this ownership is specified. Inquiring minds want to know!
  - brownbat 14y ago
    There are several links to University IP policies here: http://www.adec.edu/user/ip-policies.html http://www.adec.edu/user/ip-policies.html Most of them exempt things made on your own time. University of Kentucky claims rights to almost anything (even "drawings") students make while in any of "certain University units" (including the "Computing Center"): http://www.adec.edu/intellectualproperty/uky.html http://www.adec.edu/intellectualproperty/uky.html It's not clear whether a dorm room is one of those "certain University units" or not. I don't think so, but it'd depend on the phrasing of the dorm room mission statement. These policies are not trivial to sort out...
    - brownbat 14y ago
      Ooh, my new favorite is North Carolina A&T State University: "We don't have any such policies in place at this time. The university has initiated a faculty interest group which meets regularly to discuss these issues and similiar DL opportunities. Some interesting things are coming out these discussions." http://www.adec.edu/intellectualproperty/ncat.html http://www.adec.edu/intellectualproperty/ncat.html

mturmon 14y ago

Yes, that is part of one side of the story. But as mentioned, we don't know the whole story.