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Hi, I'm the guy who made a comment about big dongles. First of all I'd like to say I'm sorry. I really did not mean to offend anyone and I really do regret the

• adriarichards 14y ago
  Hey, Thanks for speaking up, contributing your viewpoint on HN and not attacking me. I'm sorry to hear your employer deciding to not to work with you on this and I hope they reconsider, bring you back on and dealing with it constructively. For context, I'm a developer evangelist. That means I'm an advocate for developers, male and female. While I hear abou demanding bosses with impossible deadlines for product launches, I also hear about the experiences of women working at startups. In both cases I offer suggestions, ideas and mentoring to help the developers become problems solvers. Sometimes the answer is our API or not answering email after 7pm while other times it about being assertive and shedding impostor syndrome. The forking joke set the stage for the dongle joke. Yes, this time I decided I didn't want to argue my perspective. I decided instead to accept it bothered me and took action based on the PyCon Code of Conduct. It sounds like if I'd said something about the forking you would have denied it having a sexual association. Not sure if I smiled but I'm also unsure what facial expression you would have expected. I just got done writing my blog post you can read here: http://butyoureagirl.com/14015/forking-and-dongle-jokes-dont-belong-at-tech-conferences/ http://butyoureagirl.com/14015/forking-and-dongle-jokes-dont... See you next year.
  • zshprompt 14y ago
    Adria, its the photo that's the problem. Using to identify the people in question is OK. Posting it to the internet is wrong. Unlike your explanation states you did not let the staff resolve it. You took matters into your own hands, and served up justice vigilante style. Just as someone has to watch their mouth, you also have responsibilities. I am sure you are sorry mr-hank lost his job. But just like his dumb ass comments posting photos cannot be undone.
    • norabean 14y ago
      Yea I am on accord with you on this. This is a case where she tried to make things better, but her slight immaturity made someone lose their job, and now kind of makes her look worse. cringe why do the people who think they are going to help us (women) the most, make us look the worst at times. I just feel both parties should have communicated to each other. She didn't need to make this about social media and a fight for women on this planet. This is nuts--- everyone thinks that they are speakers for "all of us". I just wish Americans left their high horse standings and realized this is not okay.
      • femaledev 14y ago
        Adria, right in line with this comment, your blog post is out of control. You took it personally by taking things you heard earlier in the day and unleashed it on one person. You have to own up and address that your behavior was immature and irresponsible as a person. You should have turned around and told them you could hear and were offended. If there was not proper apology then, contact security. IN NO WAY was it appropriate to post a picture of them in their company's shirts and take something out of context, let alone make a claim that it was a "feminist action" or that you were acting as the "Joan of Arc of the digital age." You want to do something that fits with your supposed goal set that you keep talking about. Own up to your behavior and take a stand for what is actually right. His company did nothing to defend him for fear of looking bad. At the same time that company and other companies allow behavior that you are so opposed to happen in offices all over the bay. If you want to be a leader than take an honest evaluation of what beliefs are for the better whole and what you are taking personally and reacting to. I am embarrassed that you are representing us as a female activist because you are actually making it HARDER to gain equality in the space.
• zshprompt 14y ago
  Ugh, this just makes me cringe.
  • jorgenev 14y ago
    Yeah, don't give in. It just makes you look craven. I can not believe you lost your job. You have to laugh at how far things have come. :/
• nashequilibrium 14y ago
  After looking at Adria's vague explanation, you should show your employer her blogpost because "large dongle" is not sexual harassment. This seems more like a case of someone so deep in a cause that they have lost sight of what the core idea of the cause is. This is very overreaching and I feel this way after reading her blogpost, before I thought her complaint had merit but not now.
  • rdtsc 14y ago
    Not only that. Overreaction goes both ways. It swings like pendulum. It went one way, Adria's and this guy's employer's way. But I am afraid it went to far, and now on the way back it might damage them more than it damaged this guy. What do I mean? His employer before evaluating the situation jumped the gun and fired guy with 3 kids to support. That is fucked up. Adria's online presence will forever be marred by this. It seemed like a win first, and her intentions were perhaps good, but it turned out to be a bad decision. I think she will regret this when the dust settles. Anyone know the name of the company, I couldn't read it on the badge, so that next time I see them a at conference I have a nice 'pleasant' talk with them? Some from the tech community might be immature and like to make stupid jokes. What else they don't like is bullying and irrational and bureaucratic decisions. I have a feeling this will come back and bite them harder than they expected.
    • thrwawayaccnt 14y ago
      The company she works for is SendGrid, if random redditors discussing this are to be trusted.
      • rdtsc 14y ago
        Alright thanks.
        • rdtsc 14y ago
          Ok it seems SendGrid might be the company that Adria works for not the company that fired the guy. Guy's company is PlayHeaven. If I see either one of their companies' booths I will make sure to have 'a nice' chat with them.
• norabean 14y ago
  I feel so sad about this. I am not liking the path of sexual harassment cases being so quick to be made in the USA. This is ridiculous that you were FIRED over this situation! As a female, I am upset at the way everyone can be such babies in this country.
• an-tarek 14y ago
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation
  • llimllib 14y ago
    > In common law it is usually a requirement that this claim be false The person involved in this case does not deny the claim.
• JoCoLa 14y ago
  This is hypersensitive, passive aggressive, and paints women as fragile and in need of rescuing from every perceived slight. Stop apologizing.
  • taligent 14y ago
    No. It is unprofessional and unbecoming at an outside of work event. You don't think he would have been fired for a black or Nazi joke ?
    • asdfs 14y ago
      I'm not sure that those jokes are comparable. There's no negative stereotype in a penis size joke.
      • gnarbarian 14y ago
        It contributes to the objectification and dehumanization of male morphological gender norms. Just kidding. I make dongle jokes all the time.
    • bartread 14y ago
      <<invokes Godwin's law: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwins_law>&#62 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwins_law>>
      • devopstom 14y ago
        Finally. I was waiting for that to happen so everyone will go home and move on.
    • gnarbarian 14y ago
      I did nazi that coming.
• athesyn 14y ago
  Pathetic.
• general_failure 14y ago
  Sad that you have to apologize. Even sadder that your employer doesn't see things any other way. In fact, you should be happy that you are not employed by people who easily fall to emotional terrorism. Might have been a great coding job but it's better to work with people who think like you and not just code like you.
• xxxxxxxxxxx 14y ago
  A petition to Play Haven to give Alex his job back: www.thepetitionsite.com/374/323/889/give-alex-reid-his-job-back/
  • mr-hank 14y ago
    Its worth noting I'm not Alex. He was not involved and still employed.
    • xerodark 14y ago
      would love to get your side of the story and post it on our site for men around the world to read. can we arrange an interview with you?
      • mr-hank 14y ago
        Thank you for the offer but I respectfully decline. I feel as though this situation has already received far more attention than it should have. Right now I'm focused on finding a new start-up to pour my heart into and taking care of my family.
        • janineyoong 14y ago
          If you're remotely interested in any of these: http://tokbox.com/careers http://tokbox.com/careers, would you drop me a line? janine.yoong at gmail.com Best of luck to you regardless.
    • natas_drol 14y ago
      I think it's worth noting that Alex's name badge was clearly displayed and he was prominently framed in the photo. I believe the image and caption published by Ms. Richards implies his involvement. Possibly others in the photo as well.
      • mr-hank 14y ago
        Well, I was there, I'm in the photo and I'm telling you that Alex was not involved.
• zenci 14y ago
  This is why we're reluctant to deal with women. You don't know if they're going to be sensible or fly off the handle at whatever random neo-feminist triggers they have.
• fosap 14y ago
  >I really do regret the comment and how it made Adria feel. Boldly speaking, you are a moron. She might feel offended, but i don't think she has any right to be upset. https://twitter.com/adriarichards/status/312265091791847425 https://twitter.com/adriarichards/status/312265091791847425 >@skwashd you should put something in your pants next time...like a bunch of socks inside one...large...sock. TSA agent faint
  • mcherm 14y ago
    > [...] you are a moron Please go away and take your name-calling someplace else. I prefer Hacker News to be a location for civil dialog.
    • zer01 14y ago
      Seriously? You're going to let the fact that he called someone a moron overshadow the fact that he points out her blatant hypocrisy over this entire thing? It's apparently alright for women to make sexual references in a public setting (e.g. Twitter), but when men do it amongst themselves in a crowd it's just wrong? Did she ever once say "Hey guys, can you keep it down?" or how about "Your jokes are making me un-comfortable, please stop."? Nope, instead she tries to get people to take out their pitchforks and torches. This is what she does.
      • hatsix 14y ago
        Yes. He escalated in the same manner that she did. He made a personal attack. The ends do not justify the means... especially when that one sentence was completely unnecessary. He could easily have taken a more civil tone... maybe said "Your pandering to her makes me feel uncomfortable"... the same way that you are suggesting that she approach the topic.
        • stealer0517 14y ago
          me made a joke.... there is a HUGE difference
• ushas 14y ago
  >The sexual context was applied by Adria, and not us. >She gave me no warning, she smiled while she snapped the pic and sealed my fate. > As a result of the picture she took I was let go from my job today. Which sucks because I have 3 kids and I really liked that job. So she took the joke way too seriously and in turn caused you to lose your job. Great way to 'teach' someone to make a joke about dongles, right?
• profoak 14y ago
  Why are you apologizing. She is an asshole who cost you your job. I really hope you are just doing it for potential employers in the future. Adria is a shitty person for getting you fired over this.
  • mcherm 14y ago
    > [...] She is an asshole > [...] is a shitty person Please go away and take your name-calling someplace else. I prefer Hacker News to be a location for civil dialog.
    • sejje 14y ago
      "It was really shitty of her to get you fired for this. She's making herself look like an asshole." -- Fixed
    • nochek 14y ago
      Maybe you should stop telling everyone how they should post, and instead do something to encourage civil dialog.
    • beedogs 14y ago
      I don't think anyone gives a shit what you prefer.
• bobthecrusher 14y ago
  What a fucking cunt. Have you looked into some form of wrongful termination lawsuit? Really, you shouldn't have admitted to anything. This, this right here, this is libel. Plain and simple. She has no proof of you saying anything, your boss merely took her side because she's moderately well known.
  • dontmindme 14y ago
    Obnoxious and utterly ignorant of the law! Keep it up, clown.
• MacArthur 14y ago
  You're being forced to apologize for being a victim of today's McCarthyism. I'm sorry.
• drridta 14y ago
  If I would be Mr Hank I would go and sue Adria as she took a photo of him and distributed it without his consent. This is a serious privacy issue. I would like to read her post after she gets fired in a similar way because of a photo. I'm sure she would feel the pain.
  • jodrellblank 14y ago
    And you would lose. > In the United States [..] consent is not as a rule required to photograph people in public places and publish those photos. Hence, unless there are specific local laws to the contrary, overriding legal concerns (e.g., defamation) or moral concerns (e.g., picture unfairly obtained) [..] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Photographs_of_identifiable_people http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Photographs_of_ide...
    • drridta 14y ago
      Hmm, I didn't know that. Thanks for the heads up.
    • stock_toaster 14y ago
      possibly liable for slander though, if she is claiming things said that were not said, wbich resulted in firing
    • darkmarmot 14y ago
      Actually, there's a strong case for 'tort of false light'.
    • unreal37 14y ago
      Great link, but it also says this: "Even in countries that have no law of privacy, there is a moral obligation on us not to upload photographs which infringe the subject's reasonable expectation of privacy." It was immoral of her to publish that photo, but not illegal.
      • jodrellblank 14y ago
• stubiz123 14y ago
  Adria thinks she won something here, she doesn't give a damn she destroyed someone's career over a simple sexual pun in a private conversation that she wasn't apart of nor was it directed towards her. I wish you luck in finding a new job where the company will actually try to defend their employee against such sensationalist nonsense masked as equality.
• eggsbox 14y ago
  Agreed that Adria had every right to feel offended. There is no place for humour in public. You are not the first person though to be caught telling dongle jokes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAG39jKi0lI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAG39jKi0lI
• truthbetold 14y ago
  You need to take legal action. You made a joke which hurt someone's feelings. They turned around and made a post which is causing you harm.
  • ihateloggingin 14y ago
    You seem to be under the mistaken impression that being fired without cause is somehow illegal in the USA. In 49/50 states, it isn't. So there is no leg to stand on. Unless he was employed in Montana.
    • username_6916 14y ago
      California Legal Code 96(k) states that: The Labor Commissioner and his or her deputies and representatives authorized by him or her in writing shall, upon the filing of a claim therefor by an employee, or an employee representative authorized in writing by an employee, with the Labor Commissioner, take assignments of: ... (k) Claims for loss of wages as the result of demotion, suspension, or discharge from employment for lawful conduct occurring during nonworking hours away from the employer's premises. http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=lab&group=00001-01000&file=79-107 http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=lab&#3...
      • bjt 14y ago
        You're citing a procedural detail that I don't think really supports the claim that his termination was unlawful. All that section says is that if the guy files a claim with the labor commissioner for wrongful discharge, then the commissioner can "take assignment" of his claim, meaning they can sue the company in his name. It doesn't really say anything about whether his firing was OK or not. A better reference on at-will employment in California is at http://business.ca.gov/StartaBusiness/AdministeringEmployees/EqualEmploymentOpportunityLaws/AtWillEmployment.aspx http://business.ca.gov/StartaBusiness/AdministeringEmployees.... Edit: s/employment/discharge/ (doh)
    • omnibrain 14y ago
      Sue her, not his employer.
• AdriaIsATurd 14y ago
  You need to stand up for yourself. You made a joke to a friend sitting near you. Adria Richards eavesdropped, then decided to take a picture of you without your consent with the intention of shaming you on Twitter without warning, causing you to lose your job. You shouldn't be apologizing, you should be planning legal action. Adria Richards should be blacklisted from tech conventions for being a whiny, self important turd.
• feminaziloon 14y ago
  You did nothing wrong and shouldn't apologize to an absurdly psychopathic feminist "developer evangelist" (what the f* is that?). You made a mildly off color comment then she set out to ruin you. She thinks she's a hero for creating an unemployed family of five. She's genuinely insane and genuinely evil, and i'm guessing if you polled average Americans 90% of them would agree with the sentiment (including a huge majority of women).
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• mav314 14y ago
  I feel very sorry that this uppity POS made you lose your job over a harmless joke. Some people need to really learn what a sense of humour is.
• mkr-hn 14y ago
  It probably wouldn't be a big deal in a more equitable society, but an innocent remark can easily be taken the wrong way when it comes after the chain of sexism women deal with in any given day. Someone wrote an article (that I can't find) about how she felt bad about all those times she overreacted to an innocent remark, and how it was probably counterproductive. It's hard to filter the harmless dongle jokes from the sheer volume of real sexism that surrounds us. Meeting her halfway with empathy and communication was the right thing to do.
  • theorique 14y ago
    And her setting a chain of events in motion that got a professional fired for a harmless joke is permissible?
    • mkr-hn 14y ago
      Who said it was permissible? I said it was an overreaction, just like the boss firing him for it.
      • theorique 14y ago
        OK, guess I misread your comment.
        • username 14y ago
          Carma at its finest... http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/21/breaking-adria-richards-fired-by-sendgrid-for-outting-developers-on-twitter/ http://venturebeat.com/2013/03/21/breaking-adria-richards-fi...
        • username 14y ago
          karma
  • uchi 14y ago
    "an innocent remark can easily be taken the wrong way when it comes after the chain of sexism women deal with in any given day." ...what? How much effort do you put in to finding everything sexist? This ladybug mounting another ladybug outside my window? Sexually oppressive. The female ladybug should be capable of choosing which position is preferable for her. This pencil in my hand? It's long. Hence a phallic object. Hence sexually intimidating. I am forced to involuntarily hold penises as I write on paper. This mouse under my palm is being raped as it has no matter of choice by which I guide it and its wheel (symbolic of the empowering clitoris, which I voluntarily scroll with) to accomplish my task. It has no say in when I click it or how I click it. Hence I am depriving it of free choice. Hence I am raping it.
• rorow 14y ago
  Don't be apologetic. It's people like Adria that fucks everything up for the rest of us. Who cares you made some tech-related joke, hell i give you a thumbs up for the dongle one. Adria shouldnt be calling herself a tech evangelist, but a feminist zealot hypocrit.
  • askien 14y ago
    Amen brother! And she REALLY hurts other women when they have legitimate causes of concern. Also, she makes ALL men uncomfortable.
• BreakDecks 14y ago
  I just lost all respect for you. You're a doormat now, congrats.
• supergirl 14y ago
  don't apologize to this publicity whore
• jmartens 14y ago
  If anyone feels they should not have been fired, blame their company...not Adria.
  • digunison 14y ago
    While the company is definitely to blame, Adria should not have blown this issue up to such a big proportion.
  • lucian1900 14y ago
    It's perfectly possible and appropriate to blame both.
• why1111111111 14y ago
  dude, don't put your tail between your legs and run away. that lady is a freaking tard!!!
• Datsundere 14y ago
  >NO JOKES ALLOWED Evangelist? please.
• sdenheyer 14y ago
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Joke_(novel) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Joke_(novel)
• burtgoldberg 14y ago
  grow some balls you fairy-ass political correctness loving fruitbowl!
• b0sk 14y ago
  I feel sick to my stomach. There's are openings in my company but I can't get your case past HR. They wouldn't want to be associated with a red flag. Hope you land on your feet.
• kalms 14y ago
  You have absolutely zero to apologize for. It's quite the opposite. I hope you get an even better job, at a place that deserves you - and soon.
• priya85 14y ago
  was this a private event? she had no right to take your picture without permission. if it was a park or the sidewalk yes, that's a public area, but you could have a case against her.
• enr 14y ago
  Dude, you have nothing to apologize for. I understand why you feel like you do, I would to, but you don't. She took the liberty to be offended over something not directed at her, at your expense. By doing so she caused great damage, not only screwing you over greatly but also doing a huge disservice to the struggle for equality within the tech industry. I realize women have to put up with a lot of crap. I'm often flabbergasted by the kind of harassing childish behaviour women witness to at workplaces, conferences and user groups. The kind of stuff you can't believe adults can resort to. This is something different completely. I hope you find a new job soon. Don't let this unexpected bump keep you down.
  • askien 14y ago
    Agreed!
  • francopd 14y ago
    Luckily she got fired today! +1 SendGrid, -1000 PlayHaven! I am a big fan of SmartGrid now that they got rid of her. I don't know who would hire Adria as "Evangelist" now, since she is probably the most hated person among developers now! I also hope that all the best developers stay 1,000 miles away from PlayHaven!
• mnicole 14y ago
  Hopefully you are still reading the comments here as I'm just catching up on all of this and watching how it is continuing to unfold. Please don't apologize. As other women before me already have, I want to apologize for this incident; honestly I probably would have been giggling myself if I was in an earshot of you. With respect to Adria's past and her sensitivity to the triggers she refers to, a comment like this is not demeaning to women and her reaction has nothing to do with supporting the future of this industry and the women who partake in it. In fact I'd say just the opposite. Just a few weeks ago we had a similar conversation when Torvalds replied to a woman with the term circlejerk (in regards to the argument they were having) and a few people raised their pitchforks thinking it was offensive in the context of her gender. It has nothing to do with gender. Taking the photo and posting it for her global audience was just too much. The appropriate course of action would have been to show the picture privately to staff and have them talk to the parties involved individually and maybe bring everyone together to talk about it after-the-fact. I can't even fathom losing my job over something that I know I have made jokes about in the past, jokes that may have a juvenile slant, but that I thought would be acceptable because I was in the company of people who could - if not appreciate them - at least understand what I meant by them, and especially understand that it wasn't sexual. Some jokes are not okay in the presence of certain people or during certain times. This was not one of them, and again I'm so sorry for what you're dealing with because of it. Best wishes to you.
  • chrisivens 14y ago
    Seems this youtube clip here is totally inappropriate too then? See 1:45 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAG39jKi0lI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAG39jKi0lI
    • mnicole 14y ago
      What?
      • gutnor 14y ago
        I was wondering aswell - around 2:00, there is a joke about dongle. I guess the interesting bit the parent wanted to highlight is that a similar joke to the one that offended Adria, was showed on public television.
• kumar303 14y ago
  It makes me sad that HN reinforces the fact that women have a hard time participating in s/tech conferences/tech forums/g PyCon was 20% female this year which was a remarkable milestone. Along with this milestone came an amplification of why it was so hard for PyCon to reach that milestone. This was not an isolated issue; Titus' post provides a good summary of the general harassment women faced at PyCon http://ivory.idyll.org/blog/pycon-2013-and-codes-of-conduct.html http://ivory.idyll.org/blog/pycon-2013-and-codes-of-conduct.... And, yeah, blame your employer for making a poor judgement call on this. If I were you I wouldn't want to work for a place that fires people over Internet drama anyway.
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  • wyager 14y ago
    An immature penis joke is not "harassment". You shouldn't throw that word around like it's meaningless. Harassment is a serious thing, and this joke most certainly is not.
    • kumar303 14y ago
      Actually, to many people harassment isn't a serious thing. It's just a "casual" snide comment about being cute or looking hot. Many men don't realize they're making women feel uncomfortable in geek circles.
      • katbyte 14y ago
        Yes well i don't really like it how some women seem to think its their right to feel uncomfortable at the drop of a hat, ruins it for the rest of us. Anyone can feel uncomfortable about anything for any reason. they should toughen up and say something when they are, it 'll make life easier for themselves and other women like me who have to deal with the stereotype created by it. I am not a delicate flower that must be protected from all the things.
    • askien 14y ago
• mdavie46 14y ago
  i think that you HAVE TO go to your job and explain your situation, This was not a case of harrassment Adria, i dont know if you intended for this man to get fired. you need to make this right and get this mans job back. Because if you did, spiritually, your in so much trouble, and you wont be able to keep a job your self and become an outcast.
  • droithomme 14y ago
    The job is gone, but he definitely needs to retain an attorney. I certainly would, and I would proceed until there was a satisfactory settlement.
• bloodyyourcunts 14y ago
  and she was asspained enough to make a public complaint about it? By the sounds of it when she's not shitting up social media she's being a professional victim
• momop 14y ago
  Absolutely crazy ! That was a harmless joke gone wrong. Sorry mate.
• uwotm8 14y ago
  She smiled at you as she took the photo, gave you no warning? No, don't apologize. She's a total bitch. A cis-scum Jewish-Nigger-Feminist Bitch. I'm on my way right now to her place to slit her. >1043 Valencia St, Apt 5 San Francisco, CA 94110-2478 >(415)-409-9557 >415 is San Francisco.
  • ISL 14y ago
    Does HN have a 'Flag Death Threat' tickbox? It would be appropriate to submit the poster's contact information to the San Francisco police, and perhaps the FBI. In the meantime, please flag the parent's post into oblivion. To do so, click 'reply' to the parent's post. Above the text entry field is a link that says 'flag'.
    • bloodyyourcunts 14y ago
      stfu fagget yu don't even know what your talking about, go shit up another internet
    • AdriaIsATurd 14y ago
      Asking that she be blacklisted from tech conferences, and suggesting that he take legal action is a "death threat"? What have you been smoking?
    • CRConrad 14y ago
      Death Threat?!? Doesn't "you are a doormat" just mean "you are letting yourself get trampled upon"? Calling that a "death threat" looks an over-reaction on a par with Ms Richards' original one to me.
  • hluska 14y ago
    And, I'm officially a little more ashamed than usual to be a human. How do I leave this fucking industry???
• wmt 14y ago
  While everyone is riled up about Adria Richards getting offended and publicly shaming the person who made a joke about big dongles, you should keep in mind that she did not fire anyone. PlayHaven did. PlayHaven could have decided to be the responsible party and handle the incident constructively, but they did not want to do that. Even Adria, who still appears to think that the public shaming was a good thing to do, also thinks that PlayHaven should have not fired the person. So please, if you think firing mr-hank was unreasonable, please let PlayHaven know that, and also how this might affect your image of PlayHaven. http://www.playhaven.com/contact http://www.playhaven.com/contact
  • csmattryder 14y ago
    I shot a comment over, but the damage has probably been done at this point. I can't see PlayHaven hiring mr_hank back, and to be honest, I would guess it'd be slightly awkward.
    • alttab 14y ago
      Which, if we are taking responsibility for "what we say and do," then the focus really is back on Adria because she decided to make a big deal out of nothing. Sure, PlayHaven fired this dude. But guess what? Their employee was being marked as sexist all over Twitter? To them, they might not have had a choice. But Adria, she had a choice. She could have kept her mouth shut like 99% of everyone else who probably also heard the remarks, but instead she decided to post to twitter to whore out her name more, and then perfectly finds herself in the spot light leaving "logical" people to blame PlayHaven for what happened. Nope, Adria is out of line, hypocritical at best, and now men won't trust women around them in the tech industry. Two steps back for everyone. Bravo.
    • VigUi7vv8G2 14y ago
      > I can't see PlayHaven hiring mr_hank back ... I would guess it'd be slightly awkward. It would certainly be awkward, but it would be a pretty big PR hit not to take them back.
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• barry-goldwater 14y ago
  I feel pity for you. If I was in your case I would be so freaking mad that I would sue that freaking broad for libel. Her actions, not yours are the reason you got freaking fired. As a father of 3 you need to stand up and man up.
• blah3737 14y ago
  bro why are you apologizing? Cause some cunt with a computer lodged up her asshole got salty with a joke? Perhaps THIS is why "Women historically have felt unwelcome at tech conferences". Because you ARE you dumb whore. Because you emotion-filled bitches whine and cry and bitch about everything. HOW COOL she was for posting on twitter.
• kirk89 14y ago
  Why are you apologizing? This woman ruined your life because you made a fucking "dongle" joke! Grow a set man. I would be pissed off to no end