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Maybe it's 1). Have a reputation for charging more for hardware and attract people willing to pay more 2). Create devices that take advantage of people with m

Maybe it's 1). Have a reputation for charging more for hardware and attract people willing to pay more 2). Create devices that take advantage of people with more disposable income

seanmcdirmid 14y ago
Ah, that tired myth again. iPads and iPhones are overpriced, unless you consider the competition, then they look like a better value. Ah, what? At the end of the day, its just good execution, Apple hasn't mis-stepped in a while and seems to be doing everything right. But if you want to justify your own alternative purchasing decisions by seeing Apple as overpriced, please go ahead.
- WayneDB 14y ago
  You can't say it's a myth when it's based on opinion. If people have the opinion that iProducts are overpriced, then they are because "overpriced" is completely subjective. Simple as that. There's no myth, but the fact that you're tired of hearing it does mean that people think it. I am of the opinion that Apple products are overpriced. They really have no value for me or other people like me who want more choices and more control. I don't like their whole culture or ecosystem, so really any price is too high. Furthermore, in purely practical terms there's nothing that I can't do on an Android device.
  - seanmcdirmid 14y ago
    But you see, its not opinion. The prices for iProducts and their competitors are public info. They are either overpriced with respect to equivalent value products or not; the truth is easy to see. The ones who ignore the truth are just experiencing cognitive dissonance, and there are quite a few of them left over from the PC era.
    - pook1e 14y ago
      Value is an opinion. The Nexus 4 provides me with more value than an iPhone 5, yet costs nearly half. Therefore the iPhone is overpriced, right?
      - seanmcdirmid 14y ago
        Obviously the nexus 4 is a good deal, and if we see more android phones with those specs selling for those prices, we can begin to call iPhones overpriced (I.e. google isn't just selling these phones at cost). Still, there are plenty of head on reviews that can't make up their mind which one is better even with the huge price delta. I haven't actually seen any nexus 4s for sale yet in my market (china) beyond a few smuggled in. It will be interesting to see what happens then.
    - WayneDB 14y ago
      You should really try to see the issue from the point of view of someone who simply doesn't want to be locked into Apple's walled garden, or who doesn't like the way Apple does things. When I can get the same hardware without any software restrictions - Apple products seem overpriced to me. But again, that's because my valuation is completely subjective. You obviously see some value in Apple's offerings. This is not some left over thought from the PC era, so please - give that a rest. It's about wanting some modicum of control where Apple offers none.
      - seanmcdirmid 14y ago
        I actually own a Lumia 920, but I miss Apple's more flexible walled garden (damn Lumia won't let me change my store from china to the USA like the iPhone would). I value phones whose ecosystems are not so spyware/virus infested, so android is out of the question, but we obviously are valuing different freedoms. The PC era still lives, I guess.
- omonra 14y ago
  Why waste time blowing hot air (myth, shmyth) when we have facts at our disposal? http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/appsblog/2012/dec/04/ios-android-revenues-downloads-country http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/appsblog/2012/dec/04/io... Value of iOS purchases are about 5x those of Android: http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Technology/Pix/pictures/2012/12/4/1354623170184/Screen_Shot_2012-12-03_at_09.42.05.png http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Technology/Pix/pictures/... So while we can speculate about reasons for this, the fact is that people spend a lot more money on apps in iOS.

Maybe it's 1). Have a reputation for charging more for hardware and attract people willing to pay more 2). Create devices that take advantage of people with more disposable income

seanmcdirmid 14y ago

Ah, that tired myth again. iPads and iPhones are overpriced, unless you consider the competition, then they look like a better value. Ah, what? At the end of the day, its just good execution, Apple hasn't mis-stepped in a while and seems to be doing everything right. But if you want to justify your own alternative purchasing decisions by seeing Apple as overpriced, please go ahead.

WayneDB 14y ago
You can't say it's a myth when it's based on opinion. If people have the opinion that iProducts are overpriced, then they are because "overpriced" is completely subjective. Simple as that. There's no myth, but the fact that you're tired of hearing it does mean that people think it. I am of the opinion that Apple products are overpriced. They really have no value for me or other people like me who want more choices and more control. I don't like their whole culture or ecosystem, so really any price is too high. Furthermore, in purely practical terms there's nothing that I can't do on an Android device.
- seanmcdirmid 14y ago
  But you see, its not opinion. The prices for iProducts and their competitors are public info. They are either overpriced with respect to equivalent value products or not; the truth is easy to see. The ones who ignore the truth are just experiencing cognitive dissonance, and there are quite a few of them left over from the PC era.
  - pook1e 14y ago
    Value is an opinion. The Nexus 4 provides me with more value than an iPhone 5, yet costs nearly half. Therefore the iPhone is overpriced, right?
    - seanmcdirmid 14y ago
      Obviously the nexus 4 is a good deal, and if we see more android phones with those specs selling for those prices, we can begin to call iPhones overpriced (I.e. google isn't just selling these phones at cost). Still, there are plenty of head on reviews that can't make up their mind which one is better even with the huge price delta. I haven't actually seen any nexus 4s for sale yet in my market (china) beyond a few smuggled in. It will be interesting to see what happens then.
  - WayneDB 14y ago
    You should really try to see the issue from the point of view of someone who simply doesn't want to be locked into Apple's walled garden, or who doesn't like the way Apple does things. When I can get the same hardware without any software restrictions - Apple products seem overpriced to me. But again, that's because my valuation is completely subjective. You obviously see some value in Apple's offerings. This is not some left over thought from the PC era, so please - give that a rest. It's about wanting some modicum of control where Apple offers none.
    - seanmcdirmid 14y ago
      I actually own a Lumia 920, but I miss Apple's more flexible walled garden (damn Lumia won't let me change my store from china to the USA like the iPhone would). I value phones whose ecosystems are not so spyware/virus infested, so android is out of the question, but we obviously are valuing different freedoms. The PC era still lives, I guess.
omonra 14y ago
Why waste time blowing hot air (myth, shmyth) when we have facts at our disposal? http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/appsblog/2012/dec/04/ios-android-revenues-downloads-country http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/appsblog/2012/dec/04/io... Value of iOS purchases are about 5x those of Android: http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Technology/Pix/pictures/2012/12/4/1354623170184/Screen_Shot_2012-12-03_at_09.42.05.png http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Technology/Pix/pictures/... So while we can speculate about reasons for this, the fact is that people spend a lot more money on apps in iOS.