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I think these are the icons in question from LayerVault, DesignMode, and similar icons from Noun Project. http://imgur.com/IH1osAD http://imgur.com/IH1osAD

by donpark 14y ago

markdown 14y ago
And here's an icon from Facebook's new feed design: http://i.imgur.com/h07jo3d.png http://i.imgur.com/h07jo3d.png
pkorzeniewski 14y ago
So they have taken down the whole project just because of three similar looking icons? That's ridiculous
- moondowner 14y ago
  And the colors used are exactly the same: http://pixxel.co/feed/layervault-issues-dmca-takedown http://pixxel.co/feed/layervault-issues-dmca-takedown
  - mootothemax 14y ago
    And the colors used are exactly the same Google uses the same: http://i.imgur.com/qJXJUaH.png http://i.imgur.com/qJXJUaH.png
  - cientifico 14y ago
    I think they copy that from kuler from adobe. It is not the first time i see that colors for sure.
  - pkorzeniewski 14y ago
    They are very similar, but not exactly the same - you could as well say that LayerVault used Google's pallete: http://i.imgur.com/JaR2foO.png http://i.imgur.com/JaR2foO.png There is no doubt that the Flat UI was highly inspired by LayerVault, but c'mon, you can't restrict a certain style or color pallete from being used.
    - moondowner 14y ago
      I agree on that. I mentioned the colors, becaue the parent comment said that it was only about 3 similar looking icons. The DMCA takedown request senders thought there's more to it. It's true that all these flat UI themes are really similar, so It's really interesting how this will turn out and will the Flat UI repo will be brought back.
  - growse 14y ago
    Last I checked, you can't copyright a collection of colours.
    - pbhjpbhj 14y ago
      I'd disagree. IANA(IP)L. However in order to win an infringement claim you'd have to show that they constituted a substantial part of a work and that the colours were copied and not derived from a third party source or coincidentally the same. The usual civil law test is the balance of probabilities. I think a more likely claim is that the matching colour scheme were a trademark infringement, an unlicensed use of trade dress (jurisdiction dependent of course). AFAIK DMCA takedown notices don't work for trademark infringement though?
    - troels 14y ago
      T-Mobile tried though - http://www.colourlovers.com/blog/2007/11/04/beware-t-mobile-owns-the-color-magenta http://www.colourlovers.com/blog/2007/11/04/beware-t-mobile-...
      - ceejayoz 14y ago
        Trademarks are not copyrights.
  - buro9 14y ago
    They aren't the same, and both appear to just use a tetradic collection of colours: http://www.tigercolor.com/color-lab/color-theory/color-theory-intro.htm http://www.tigercolor.com/color-lab/color-theory/color-theor... It's impossible to pick a green in a tetradic scheme and not get a red, orange and blue to match it.
dbbolton 14y ago
If so, this is almost as absurd as Apple's attempt to trademark an ellipsoid.
tommis 14y ago
If we look at Webdings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webdings http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webdings - TrueType dingbat font developed in 1997), there's actually a newspaper icon there that looks a lot like all of these: http://i.imgur.com/uPUAttV.png http://i.imgur.com/uPUAttV.png
DanBC 14y ago
I'd love to see a "Family Tree" style layout from a GUI Historian, showing the development of different icons. "Here's the eMail icon. This version was designed by Susan Kare".
- yuchi 14y ago
  That's a work of [philological][1] investigation, and I'd like to see something like that too. Could it be good project? [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philology
- johncoltrane 14y ago
  GUIdebook is old and pretty much abandoned but still interesting: http://www.guidebookgallery.org/ http://www.guidebookgallery.org/
CamperBob2 14y ago
Is there any way they can all lose? I'm tired of seeing the same Fisher-Price icons everywhere on the Web.
wuest 14y ago
Thanks for posting this--I hadn't seen the side by side comparison. If this is what's being claimed as 'copies' of their artwork, then it's clearly an empty claim. The Flat UI icons look better, to my taste.

I think these are the icons in question from LayerVault, DesignMode, and similar icons from Noun Project. http://imgur.com/IH1osAD http://imgur.com/IH1osAD

by donpark 14y ago

I think these are the icons in question from LayerVault, DesignMode, and similar icons from Noun Project. http://imgur.com/IH1osAD http://imgur.com/IH1osAD

markdown 14y ago

And here's an icon from Facebook's new feed design: http://i.imgur.com/h07jo3d.png http://i.imgur.com/h07jo3d.png

pkorzeniewski 14y ago

So they have taken down the whole project just because of three similar looking icons? That's ridiculous

moondowner 14y ago
And the colors used are exactly the same: http://pixxel.co/feed/layervault-issues-dmca-takedown http://pixxel.co/feed/layervault-issues-dmca-takedown
- mootothemax 14y ago
  And the colors used are exactly the same Google uses the same: http://i.imgur.com/qJXJUaH.png http://i.imgur.com/qJXJUaH.png
- cientifico 14y ago
  I think they copy that from kuler from adobe. It is not the first time i see that colors for sure.
- pkorzeniewski 14y ago
  They are very similar, but not exactly the same - you could as well say that LayerVault used Google's pallete: http://i.imgur.com/JaR2foO.png http://i.imgur.com/JaR2foO.png There is no doubt that the Flat UI was highly inspired by LayerVault, but c'mon, you can't restrict a certain style or color pallete from being used.
  - moondowner 14y ago
    I agree on that. I mentioned the colors, becaue the parent comment said that it was only about 3 similar looking icons. The DMCA takedown request senders thought there's more to it. It's true that all these flat UI themes are really similar, so It's really interesting how this will turn out and will the Flat UI repo will be brought back.
- growse 14y ago
  Last I checked, you can't copyright a collection of colours.
  - pbhjpbhj 14y ago
    I'd disagree. IANA(IP)L. However in order to win an infringement claim you'd have to show that they constituted a substantial part of a work and that the colours were copied and not derived from a third party source or coincidentally the same. The usual civil law test is the balance of probabilities. I think a more likely claim is that the matching colour scheme were a trademark infringement, an unlicensed use of trade dress (jurisdiction dependent of course). AFAIK DMCA takedown notices don't work for trademark infringement though?
  - troels 14y ago
    T-Mobile tried though - http://www.colourlovers.com/blog/2007/11/04/beware-t-mobile-owns-the-color-magenta http://www.colourlovers.com/blog/2007/11/04/beware-t-mobile-...
    - ceejayoz 14y ago
      Trademarks are not copyrights.
- buro9 14y ago
  They aren't the same, and both appear to just use a tetradic collection of colours: http://www.tigercolor.com/color-lab/color-theory/color-theory-intro.htm http://www.tigercolor.com/color-lab/color-theory/color-theor... It's impossible to pick a green in a tetradic scheme and not get a red, orange and blue to match it.

dbbolton 14y ago

If so, this is almost as absurd as Apple's attempt to trademark an ellipsoid.

tommis 14y ago

If we look at Webdings (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webdings http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webdings - TrueType dingbat font developed in 1997), there's actually a newspaper icon there that looks a lot like all of these: http://i.imgur.com/uPUAttV.png http://i.imgur.com/uPUAttV.png

DanBC 14y ago

I'd love to see a "Family Tree" style layout from a GUI Historian, showing the development of different icons. "Here's the eMail icon. This version was designed by Susan Kare".

yuchi 14y ago
That's a work of [philological][1] investigation, and I'd like to see something like that too. Could it be good project? [1]: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philology http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philology
johncoltrane 14y ago
GUIdebook is old and pretty much abandoned but still interesting: http://www.guidebookgallery.org/ http://www.guidebookgallery.org/

CamperBob2 14y ago

Is there any way they can all lose? I'm tired of seeing the same Fisher-Price icons everywhere on the Web.

wuest 14y ago

Thanks for posting this--I hadn't seen the side by side comparison. If this is what's being claimed as 'copies' of their artwork, then it's clearly an empty claim. The Flat UI icons look better, to my taste.