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LayerVault, the same people who brought you DesignerNews. If that's indeed them who sent the notice, they are just shitting all over their reputation and alien

by abcd_f 14y ago

LayerVault, the same people who brought you DesignerNews. If that's indeed them who sent the notice, they are just shitting all over their reputation and alienating a lot of people. Talk about "starting off on the wrong foot"... and for what? A design that is border-line trivial. It would seem that their best option for getting the situation under control is to release their own version of the toolkit. A version that is sufficiently different from their original background-color, border-radius and icon @font-face. If not, they are bound to repeat the clone wars of Svbtle. Edit | LayerVault actually appears to be a pretty useful product, clearly with a lot of thought sunk into it. Which makes it twice as unfortunate that they decided to pursue something like this. Google "LayerVault videos" if interested.

salmanapk 14y ago
Damn people are so dumb.. way to ruin your reputation. This is why I should start my own start-up :| Oh and did the developer of Flat UI file a counter takedown notice? Edit: Sorry if I offended anyone, just posted what I thought.
- forwardslash 14y ago
  They did: https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2013-03-06-LayerVault-counternotice.md https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2013-03-06-LayerV...
  - Karunamon 14y ago
    So why isn't their repo put back up? I thought the standard procedure was notice-takedown-counternotice-restore?
    - papercrane 14y ago
      There is a minimum waiting period after counter-notice (10 days I think.)
SmeelBe 14y ago
Designmodo announced Flat UI Free v.1.1 is public Now! Download updated version - http://designmodo.com/flat-free/ http://designmodo.com/flat-free/ PSD & HTML (Twitter Bootstrap based)! Create a new topic guys!
- glazskunrukitis 14y ago
  Here it is http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5342796 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5342796
- jrajav 14y ago
  That page has been up since before this debacle. The actual package itself (the HTML download) is hosted on Github and subject to the takedown.
supercoder 14y ago
I lost respect for LayerVault when their software that I paid what I thought was good money for totally corrupted the PSD of an entire project that had 2 months worth of work put into it. I thought I had a backup on my laptop, desktop, remote backup from my desktop and all the revisions on their server. But all revisions were corrupted and it synced those bad copies to all my machines, including the machine that performed it's own remote backup (so all those backups were broken). Their support team acknowledged that it was a problem and that they were 'hoping' to fix in an upcoming version, but offered absolutely no solution to fix my data except their apologies. Never going to trust that product ever again if they don't have data integrity as their number 1 priority.
- kaoD 14y ago
  Why didn't you sue them? That could've been profitable (they even acknowledged their responsibility) and apparently fair too.
- deleted 14y ago
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- kayoone 14y ago
  This is bad but it also looks like you didnt have a proper backup strategy. Their service looks like a versioning/syncing service but not a backup service.
  - supercoder 14y ago
    Well that's the thing, I actually thought my backup strategy was decent enough. Multiple versioned copies in multiple places. My desktop was being backed up nightly to a remote source. Though it was the laptop (which wasnt being backed up) which I was doing the work on / changes to. But I saw that layer vault was syncing the changes to the desktop so figured it was fine. So it went Laptop -> Layer Vault -> Desktop -> Remote Backup. But of course everything that passed through Layer Vault got corrupted. And eventually it 'resynced' all that corruption back to the laptop and the file went completely dead. So there ended up being no good copies of it. So yeah in hindsight can say it was my fault for not doing nightlys of the laptop. But at the time I thought my strategy was fine, trusting that while at worst I'd lose a few versions or something if something terrible happened, not for it to actively destroy the file.

by abcd_f 14y ago

salmanapk 14y ago

Damn people are so dumb.. way to ruin your reputation. This is why I should start my own start-up :| Oh and did the developer of Flat UI file a counter takedown notice? Edit: Sorry if I offended anyone, just posted what I thought.

forwardslash 14y ago
They did: https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2013-03-06-LayerVault-counternotice.md https://github.com/github/dmca/blob/master/2013-03-06-LayerV...
- Karunamon 14y ago
  So why isn't their repo put back up? I thought the standard procedure was notice-takedown-counternotice-restore?
  - papercrane 14y ago
    There is a minimum waiting period after counter-notice (10 days I think.)

SmeelBe 14y ago

Designmodo announced Flat UI Free v.1.1 is public Now! Download updated version - http://designmodo.com/flat-free/ http://designmodo.com/flat-free/ PSD & HTML (Twitter Bootstrap based)! Create a new topic guys!

glazskunrukitis 14y ago
Here it is http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5342796 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5342796
jrajav 14y ago
That page has been up since before this debacle. The actual package itself (the HTML download) is hosted on Github and subject to the takedown.

supercoder 14y ago

I lost respect for LayerVault when their software that I paid what I thought was good money for totally corrupted the PSD of an entire project that had 2 months worth of work put into it. I thought I had a backup on my laptop, desktop, remote backup from my desktop and all the revisions on their server. But all revisions were corrupted and it synced those bad copies to all my machines, including the machine that performed it's own remote backup (so all those backups were broken). Their support team acknowledged that it was a problem and that they were 'hoping' to fix in an upcoming version, but offered absolutely no solution to fix my data except their apologies. Never going to trust that product ever again if they don't have data integrity as their number 1 priority.

kaoD 14y ago
Why didn't you sue them? That could've been profitable (they even acknowledged their responsibility) and apparently fair too.
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kayoone 14y ago
This is bad but it also looks like you didnt have a proper backup strategy. Their service looks like a versioning/syncing service but not a backup service.
- supercoder 14y ago
  Well that's the thing, I actually thought my backup strategy was decent enough. Multiple versioned copies in multiple places. My desktop was being backed up nightly to a remote source. Though it was the laptop (which wasnt being backed up) which I was doing the work on / changes to. But I saw that layer vault was syncing the changes to the desktop so figured it was fine. So it went Laptop -> Layer Vault -> Desktop -> Remote Backup. But of course everything that passed through Layer Vault got corrupted. And eventually it 'resynced' all that corruption back to the laptop and the file went completely dead. So there ended up being no good copies of it. So yeah in hindsight can say it was my fault for not doing nightlys of the laptop. But at the time I thought my strategy was fine, trusting that while at worst I'd lose a few versions or something if something terrible happened, not for it to actively destroy the file.