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Linode Nextgen: The Network

spitfire 14y ago
Neat. But it's really the hardware size that's the restricting feature of linode. In particular: Memory.
- jcdavis 14y ago
  Yea. I'm hoping as part of this nextgen upgrade they announce more RAM. SSDs would of course be nice too, but more RAM is what I want the most
  - chx 14y ago
    For less than the price of a 4GB linode get a 32GB SSD server from OVH http://www.ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/sp_32g_ssd.xml http://www.ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/sp_32g_ssd.xml or a multitude of others http://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/8302/99-e3-32-gb-list-of-providers http://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/8302/99-e3-32-gb-list-o... .
    - jjcm 14y ago
      How is the performance of OVH's network by the way? Anyone had any issues with it? I'm paying ~80/mo right now for VPSs, and this offers way more horsepower than what I have now. Any downsides to going this route? Also is there anything comparable that's located on the west coast?
      - taneliv 14y ago
        I'm absolutely stoked about their low-end dedicated servers. I have 13€/mo and 18€/mo instances (located in France) and I'm in Finland. No issues whatsoever, connectivity or uptime, and I use them to run both my personal and company mail, and some web stuff. If you go over traffic quota (5TB / mo) they will limit your speed to 10Mbit/s, not cut you off or bill extra (but you can purchase extra quota). But I have no idea how good their support is because I never needed it. After initial setup you may want to change the grsec kernel to something else (according to preferences, it's not bad), and by default they have root ssh access to your box (key-based auth), which you may want to revoke. Ovh has one data center in Canada, but that's in Quebec, not west coast.
        muyuu 14y ago
        Yep. They're not just a small Johnny-come-lately shop either, they've been top tier in Europe for a long time.
- shuzchen 14y ago
  From the blog post, this is just part 1 out of 3 new features they're touting. So it's quite possible memory might get an upgrade. I personally wouldn't bet on it though, the host machines are likely maxed out on total RAM and upgrading would mean more hardware than just sticks.
endianswap 14y ago
This is one of the reasons why I am happy to support Linode with my business: they seem to care about doing things the right way and keeping people happy. I've got a simple 512 Linode server that I use infrequently (I like having a Linux box available in the "cloud" to SSH to from home/work) and yet I've always been treated as a "real" customer. I know it's sad that I'm impressed by it, but grandfathering in customers like this just by default, and always having great support turnaround times (within a couple hours at basically any time of the day) makes me like the Linode guys a ton. This sort of stuff is the reason why I don't really care if there's a cheaper alternative; I know what I'm paying for and I'm very happy with what I'm getting.
gtaylor 14y ago
Wow, this is quite a jump. Great to see Linode continue to lower costs and improve quality. It's also important to note that if the billing system stays the same, each instance you purchase increments your account-wide bandwidth pool. For example, if a Linode 512 has 2 TB worth of data and you have two of them, you end up with 4 TB for all Linodes on your account. It's not bound to the individual Linodes.
evanw 14y ago
Edit: The post title has been changed, but tldr is that Linode is increasing the monthly transfer limit quota 10x because they're upgrading their network infrastructure. -- It's great that Linode is passing these improvements to their customers free of charge. A while back they increased RAM allocated to all users without increasing prices, which was a great surprise. Things like this make me happy to host my multiple projects with them.
jonknee 14y ago
A 10x increase in bandwidth is pretty impressive. More useful to me at least is the increased throughput though, 250Mbps is pretty speedy.
stefantalpalaru 14y ago
original title: "Linode is increasing the monthly transfer quota 10x after a hw upgrade"
slig 14y ago
That's great. If it was another provider doing this 10 fold increase, I'd suspect they would fuck up and wouldn't be able to deliver. Linode earned my trust and I can't recommend them enough.
- taligent 14y ago
  Please. Major upgrades happen every single day among the various VPS providers. And whilst it is notable it isn't particularly useful to most Linode customers. In fact 99% won't see any difference at all. Had they actually decided to offer SSD based instances to compete with the likes of DigitalOcean then we would have something interesting. Also this is a terrible way for a company to earn trust. It should be earned based on their behaviour during the bad times. And we know how appalling Linode handles those.
  - slig 14y ago
    My comment wasn't clear. Linode has earned my trust along the years (been a costumer since Jan/2009), via top notch support and quality hardware/network.
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machbio 14y ago
Cant Love them Enough, they are meticulous in their efforts and the most trustworthy VPS providers.. Just love them - can do free advertising for them - call me fan or follower.. we love Linode
pavs 14y ago
I never quite understood the love for premium vps like linode (also remember slicehost?). If you check out lowendbox vps, their top-rated providers almost always beats linode (and alike) in almost all category you can think of. Its nice that they are now increasing the bandwidth cap, but it was on the low side to begin with. My takeaway from this is that "linode finally joins everyone else in network speed and bandwidth." Don't get me wrong, I have used linode in the past and enjoyed them very much and never had any problems, and support was top notch. but their offering is not very impressive at all. Edit: wow, thats a lot of hostility... didn't realize linode reached fandom status. I guess I should keep my opinions to myself then?
- cheald 14y ago
  Support matters. When your neighbor is being DDOSed and you're offline as collateral damage, active support is the difference between happy customers and angry customer losses. For hobby boxes, yeah, sure, use whatever is the most cost-efficient.
  - pavs 14y ago
    Most medium sized vps will provide DDOS measures to a certain limit (no one will provide full-proof DDOS support). Fast and good customer support from server providers are not as rare as they used to be, they are pretty much given.
  - taligent 14y ago
    Linode is great during stable periods but when there is an outage or DDOS they are completely absent. I was sick to death of waiting whilst my Fremont instances were down due to power issues and receiving no response from support tickets. And based on their security incidents Linode is absolutely in the hobby box category as well. At least Amazon is PCI DSS compliant.
    - hoop 14y ago
      I don't know if this is still true, but when I started using Linode some years ago, Fremont was easily their worst datacenter. I've been in Newark without issue for some time now and I heard most of the other datacenters are pretty solid also. Regarding their support, I've submitted tickets at sometimes very odd hours and gotten responses back within minutes. What I really find amusing though is that you follow up your complaint of "completely absent during outage" with a reference to Amazon.
nodesocket 14y ago
Linode hands down is the best VPS company. I fully expect SSD drives to be available in Nextgen as well, looking forward to it.
- DigitalJack 14y ago
  DigitalOcean has been working well for me. They have SSD, but only single core.
  - bjxrn 14y ago
    Looks like they have up to 4 cores in their standard plans, and up to 24 on their larger plans, all SSD: https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing
Expez 14y ago
I have recently been thinking about moving to digitalocean, because they look like excellent value. I haven't made the move yet because of inertia, and Linode's customer service which is just mind-blowingly good. I suspect that in a couple of days I won't be able to spot a single patch of greener grass on the other side of the proverbial fence.
- xur17 14y ago
  I really wish DigitalOcean provided more then one core on their plans with < 2gb of memory. Despite that, I am probably going to move to the 512mb plan in the next year or so (once I get around to it). The backup feature is enough incentive alone.
  - Matsta 14y ago
    Meh DigitalOcean is oversold. Each box has 128gb ram, so you are probably going to be on a server with 100+ other VPS's. Lots of people have been complaining about network speeds recently: http://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/8339/very-bad-performance-downloading-from-digital-ocean-vps-http/ http://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/8339/very-bad-performan...
  - josephb 14y ago
    I wish Digital Ocean supported IPv6.
gingerlime 14y ago
Linode is definitely one of the best VPS providers. They don't market it as 'fanatical', but their support is simply incredible. I like AWS too, but the lack of support (unless you pay loads) keeps me with Linode. Nextgen sounds cool. Extra bandwidth is great. I also hope they add more RAM and provide some kind of a storage pool to store images/snapshots/virtual-disks between different linodes (similar to cloudfiles or EBS).
- gmac 14y ago
  Completely agree. Cost of RAM (as disk cache for Postgres) is the one thing that's made me wonder about leaving Linode lately. They're otherwise utterly great.
  - buro9 14y ago
    Cost of RAM, and the lack of SSD options.
- zaius 14y ago
  Their support is quick, but they only solve the problem if it's easy. My linode IP ended up on an email block list because of someone else on the subnet. I was on vacation so I wanted a quick solution and I asked for an extra IP for a week. They wouldn't do for any amount of money. I had to set up an extra server and redirect connections instead.
  - gingerlime 14y ago
    I can't comment on your particular case, but it sounds odd that they didn't help out. Certainly not my experience with their support so far (and I've been with Linode for probably 4 or 5 years now and used their support on many occasions) However, it's so easy to fire-up another linode, shut down the host, move the disk image to the new linode, assign it and turn it on. You get a new IP, and can get rid of the old one. And all this via their web interface and with no need for support...
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ForFreedom 14y ago
What about Rackspace Cloud?
- johnward 14y ago
  Managed cloud at rackspace starts at $100 plus usage charges. Seems a bit high.
  - ForFreedom 14y ago
    If managed, but unmanaged starts at $16.xx for 512MB and outbound traffic is at 0.12/GB I think
    - username111 14y ago
      Except now rackspace is even more expensive than linode for certain uses as the 2TB of bandwidth free would cost you an extra $240 on rackspace cloud and because bandwidth is shared between all linodes this extra bandwidth can make a big difference.
      - ForFreedom 14y ago
        If you are having 2TB BW then you would not host on linode or rackspace cloud, but take a dedicated server.
shimon_e 14y ago
Find this interesting? OVH is already upgrading routers to 100gbps and 500gbps versions. http://www.infinera.com/j7/servlet/NewsItem?newsItemID=336 http://www.infinera.com/j7/servlet/NewsItem?newsItemID=336
- stfp 14y ago
  OVH is super impressive. I really hope they manage to get better brand recognition in these parts.
- corry 14y ago
  +1 for OVH. Beastly machines at great prices, data centers in Canada / Europe (for people who can't store stuff in the US cloud), pretty good support.
- giulianob 14y ago
  Their servers seem extremely cheap. Are you basically getting what you pay for with their service or do they have solid uptime and solid support?
  - dangrossman 14y ago
    The cheap 'servers' aren't servers -- they're desktop parts in a rack. Desktop hardware fails more often, and non-ECC RAM will experience multiple bit flips per year on average. That's fine for a dev/staging server, but not a good thing on a production server with paying customers.
    - shimon_e 14y ago
      Their real servers are quiet cheap and beefy. Drooling @ http://www.ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/eg_64g_ssd.xml http://www.ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/eg_64g_ssd.xml
nemesisj 14y ago
We run our company using Linode as one of our primary providers. We're very, very happy with their uptimes, control panel, and particularly their support. It's a testament to their professionalism that they've been going about these pretty major changes without experiencing any downtime. I'd highly recommend them.
- pw7 14y ago
  Great to hear that, I switched from heroku to linode a couple of days ago and couldn't be happier. I haven't had to contact the support yet because the documentation is so excellent.
jpdoctor 14y ago
They talk about interconnectivity bandwidth, but not the pipes going out to the backbone or peering. Anyone know?
tshtf 14y ago
For those with high bandwidth needs this would really make sense. The cheapest package has 2TB of egress bandwidth; this would cost $228 (0.12 x 1900GB) with AWS EC2.
andyl 14y ago
I've had a system on Linode for the past two years. Zero problems, zero downtime. My experience with Linode has been very consistent and reliable.
- Skywing 14y ago
  My Linode accounts on their Dallas data center have gone through quite a bit of downtime over the years. Their support is why I've stuck with them, though.
azurelogic 14y ago
The irony is that, in spite of these upgrades, my first attempt to load the blog post timed out, and the second attempt was not speedy (or should I say SPDY?)
- rschmitty 14y ago
  I also had a time out. Perhaps they host their blog on some external service
  - azurelogic 14y ago
    Probably an AWS micro instance
mrb 14y ago
I have a hard time trusting Linode after the major March 2012 security incident where an attacker compromised an internal system that let him gain access to any Linode Manager accounts: http://status.linode.com/2012/03/manager-security-incident.html http://status.linode.com/2012/03/manager-security-incident.h... and basically had access to all customers servers! I have a hard time trusting them because they specifically gave very little information. I would have expected a followup with a better response, like Google or Facebook do when they get compromised: "the attacker used exploit X on this developer's workstation, therefore we are doing Y to prevent this from happening again". They can work on increasing performance all they want, but if I do not have basic trust in the security of their infrastructure, this does not matter. I expect top-notch security especially from a "premium" VPS provider!
- seany 14y ago
  This type of thing is my primary complaint about linode. Their transparency on things that make them look even slightly bad is basically non existent.
TheShadowFog 14y ago
I've never used linode before, could someone explain to me what is so amazing about them?
api 14y ago
2TB is good... their old bandwidth was paltry. Everyone chant with me: price war! price war! price war!
sideproject 14y ago
Woo Hoo! I really don't understand much about what you guys are doing, but well, I'm a happy linode customer, so whatever it is that you are doing to make things faster, better, bring it on!
agwa 14y ago
Does anyone know if Linode has investors? I've never been able to find mention of any, and the fact that they've been in this for the long haul (since 2003) and are now expanding after seeing massive growth in the last two years[1] makes me think they're bootstrapped. If that's true it would be seriously awesome. They were started by a single founder too! [1] http://blog.linode.com/2012/08/28/linode-makes-2012-inc-500-list/ http://blog.linode.com/2012/08/28/linode-makes-2012-inc-500-...
iframe 14y ago
What is the cost of a Cisco Nexus 7000 Router and Switch?
- amckenna 14y ago
  $83,490 but the price rises dramatically if they filled all of the expansion slots. http://www.ctistore.com/catalog/cat/prod,574258.html?gclid=CK_Hi-3N67UCFY8WMgodZzwA_Q* http://www.ctistore.com/catalog/cat/prod,574258.html?gclid=C... http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/Cisco-Nexus-7000-Series-32-Port-10-Gigabit-Ethernet-Module-with-XL-Option/2816432.aspx?cm_mmc=ShoppingFeeds-_-GoogleBase-_-NetComm%20Products-_-2816432_Cisco%20Nexus%207000%20Series%2032-Port%2010%20Gigabit%20Ethernet%20Module%20with%20XL%20Option%20-_CIS-N7K-M132XP-12L=* http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/Cisco-Nexus-7000-Series-32-...
- ejreynolds 14y ago
  MSRP is (super roughly) $40-80k depending on how it is tricked out (choice of modules, etc).
Matsta 14y ago
Instead of getting a $20 VPS, why doesn't anyone consider a full dedicated for $12? http://www.ovh.ie/dedicated_servers/kimsufi.xml http://www.ovh.ie/dedicated_servers/kimsufi.xml I realise that people have mixed feelings about OVH, but I've yet to have a problem and 100% uptime. Plus I can max out 100 mbps on the server pretty easily. Another 2 providers that probably have a better reputation than Linode are BuyVM and RamNode: http://buyvm.net/ http://buyvm.net/ http://ramnode.com/ http://ramnode.com/ A 512mb is less than half price there and they use SSD's. But the main thing I'm seeing now for commercial sites, is why don't you use Jekyll and host your site on a CDN like Cloud Files or CloudFront? I'm suprised how cheap it is now to use a full on CDN to host your site. While it's not for everyone, most business sites are just a landing page and a wordpress blog, which would be much more resource efficient if it was hosted on a CDN, plus your pretty much guaranteed 100% uptime. So for under $20 you can get a SSD VPS and your site hosted on Akamai's CDN or just a $20 box from Linode :/
t0mislav 14y ago
I have Linode VPS for 3.5 yeras now, no problems at all.
t0mislav 14y ago
Now we are waiting part 2 and 3 of Linode Nextgen. (I think one part will be storage)
t0mislav 14y ago
I made little benchmark, Linode vs Digital Ocean http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5221477 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5221477
windexh8er 14y ago
I'm actually most unimpressed with the vendor selection. So now Linode has Cisco overhead in their premium tier of hardware. Not good from a costing perspective. The Cisco Nexus line is hardly next generation when it comes to R&S product. Linode is in a position to seriously consider SDN and they shoot themselves in the foot with one of the most stagnant companies as it applies to new and innovative product for pushing packets. I'd have been far more impressed with Juniper in the hot seat here. At least they're more cost competitive. You can get a full non-blocking 10Gb L3 switch (480Gb backplane) for less than $20k fully loaded up with 10Gb SRs out of their EX line if you're looking to play it safe in 'standard' networking. The good part about software is there's far less vendor bias. This just smells of a Cisco blowhard touting the wonders of a fully vendor locked network. And software people seem to be less informed of the reality that is how the current norm of the networking realm works. Good luck to them. I've put in plenty of ASR and Nexus gear in the past few years. They'll need it.
- dangrossman 14y ago
  Were they wrong when they said the Cisco product was the only one that could handle their routing requirements?
  - wmf 14y ago
    Yes. There are plenty of large data centers that are non-Cisco and I'm not aware of any performance requirement that can only be met by Cisco.
  - caf 14y ago
    I can see how you read it that way, but that's not what they said. They said that the Cisco Nexus 7000 is the only Cisco device that could handle their routing requirements.
    - dangrossman 14y ago
      My mistake :)
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404error 14y ago
As a new customer who has had nothing but a great experience so far, thank you.
alexkus 14y ago
900% increase.
- zupa-hu 14y ago
  I wished it was not only bugging me
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vertis 14y ago
Wahey! I love good news. I'm still running a bunch of linodes for free off the credit I won for http://faxitforme.com http://faxitforme.com in Rails Rumble 2012
jacques_chester 14y ago
Once I moved out of the Fremont DC, I was very happy with Linode. But I have sites that choke on quite modest I/O. I waited for Linode to install SSDs, then waited, and waited more. Last week I gave up and moved to DigitalOcean.
bfrog 14y ago
Been using linode for 3 years now for a little instance to do basic stuff on. Its only ever been down once for a move to a new, faster, host. Even that they gave significant notice for and plenty of time for me to move it (I chose when to move it).
Void_ 14y ago
If you went from 200GB to 2000GB, you increased 200GB 10 times, you increased it by 1800GB, you increased it by 900%, not 1000%. Just sayin'.
johnpowell 14y ago
I love Linode but the paltry RAM got me to move to someone else that I have been happy with for the last month. The customer service was great but the specs were bad. If they double the RAM for the same price I would move back in a heartbeat. Hopefully Nextgen v.2 adds RAM for the same price.
lhnn 14y ago
I was hoping to find some intelligent conversation here about their use of BGP as a per-server load balancer and keepalive. Anyone else find this interesting? Have you seen this in other compmanies?
karolist 14y ago
I have been Linode customer since sometime 2008 I think till last month, when I fully migrated to Digital Ocean to two, individually better instances for half the price than my one box at Linode. I was running Gentoo at London DC without any issues, my major gripes with Linode was how hard was it to get additional IPv4 addresses without lying about your reasons - i.e running services on different IP addresses or separating your business/personal websites (and very easy if you lied, I know someone who did). Another thing was that I paid them by a virtual CC and always put there just enough money for transaction every month, it's dedicated for internet pay only and prevents cc fraud, but every now and then they'd get the card declined at the beginning of the month cause I didn't put the money in yet, like 2nd or 3rd day and always always there was this template threatening ticket put in by a person in my account. I was paying them every month for years, so what if I have outstanding balance on the 2nd or 3rd, is that the reason to threat deleting my stuff? That felt really alienating. Digital Ocean, while don't hand out IP addresses at all, costs so little that it's $1 + damn good reason at Linode or $5 and a VPS on top for the IP at DO. The support at DO is nor fast, nor technical, I had issues with my Gentoo builds basically where after reboot /dev/null would come up being a text file with junk in it, you can mknod it but it wouldn't survive reboot. I've raised a ticket and they've removed Gentoo from selection, but I doubt it's fixed and and I'll have to work some ugly hacks to work around this if it happens again. They use a kernel loaded from below, so you won't really have latest and greatest Arch if you use that, kernel upgrades are in pkg ignore list and even if upgraded it won't load. I might return to Linode sometime in the future if DO messes up my Gentoos again and Linode does better at matching DO's offer. At the moment, if you don't need to scale a lot (it's not as convenient at Linode, $20 vs $5 starts to hurt as the number of boxes go up, also Linode doesn't bill you by the our) and just want a personal server for your website I'd still go with Linode, especially after increased transfer quotas.
welcomen 14y ago
Someone in the world are always unsatisfied for everything, yes, everything, no matter what you changed, no matter what you improved, they always always can point something out there to complain about. Example!? Right here!

Neat. But it's really the hardware size that's the restricting feature of linode. In particular: Memory.

jcdavis 14y ago
Yea. I'm hoping as part of this nextgen upgrade they announce more RAM. SSDs would of course be nice too, but more RAM is what I want the most
- chx 14y ago
  For less than the price of a 4GB linode get a 32GB SSD server from OVH http://www.ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/sp_32g_ssd.xml http://www.ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/sp_32g_ssd.xml or a multitude of others http://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/8302/99-e3-32-gb-list-of-providers http://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/8302/99-e3-32-gb-list-o... .
  - jjcm 14y ago
    How is the performance of OVH's network by the way? Anyone had any issues with it? I'm paying ~80/mo right now for VPSs, and this offers way more horsepower than what I have now. Any downsides to going this route? Also is there anything comparable that's located on the west coast?
    - taneliv 14y ago
      I'm absolutely stoked about their low-end dedicated servers. I have 13€/mo and 18€/mo instances (located in France) and I'm in Finland. No issues whatsoever, connectivity or uptime, and I use them to run both my personal and company mail, and some web stuff. If you go over traffic quota (5TB / mo) they will limit your speed to 10Mbit/s, not cut you off or bill extra (but you can purchase extra quota). But I have no idea how good their support is because I never needed it. After initial setup you may want to change the grsec kernel to something else (according to preferences, it's not bad), and by default they have root ssh access to your box (key-based auth), which you may want to revoke. Ovh has one data center in Canada, but that's in Quebec, not west coast.
      - muyuu 14y ago
        Yep. They're not just a small Johnny-come-lately shop either, they've been top tier in Europe for a long time.
shuzchen 14y ago
From the blog post, this is just part 1 out of 3 new features they're touting. So it's quite possible memory might get an upgrade. I personally wouldn't bet on it though, the host machines are likely maxed out on total RAM and upgrading would mean more hardware than just sticks.

This is one of the reasons why I am happy to support Linode with my business: they seem to care about doing things the right way and keeping people happy. I've got a simple 512 Linode server that I use infrequently (I like having a Linux box available in the "cloud" to SSH to from home/work) and yet I've always been treated as a "real" customer. I know it's sad that I'm impressed by it, but grandfathering in customers like this just by default, and always having great support turnaround times (within a couple hours at basically any time of the day) makes me like the Linode guys a ton. This sort of stuff is the reason why I don't really care if there's a cheaper alternative; I know what I'm paying for and I'm very happy with what I'm getting.

gtaylor 14y ago

Wow, this is quite a jump. Great to see Linode continue to lower costs and improve quality. It's also important to note that if the billing system stays the same, each instance you purchase increments your account-wide bandwidth pool. For example, if a Linode 512 has 2 TB worth of data and you have two of them, you end up with 4 TB for all Linodes on your account. It's not bound to the individual Linodes.

evanw 14y ago

Edit: The post title has been changed, but tldr is that Linode is increasing the monthly transfer limit quota 10x because they're upgrading their network infrastructure. -- It's great that Linode is passing these improvements to their customers free of charge. A while back they increased RAM allocated to all users without increasing prices, which was a great surprise. Things like this make me happy to host my multiple projects with them.

jonknee 14y ago

A 10x increase in bandwidth is pretty impressive. More useful to me at least is the increased throughput though, 250Mbps is pretty speedy.

stefantalpalaru 14y ago

original title: "Linode is increasing the monthly transfer quota 10x after a hw upgrade"

slig 14y ago

That's great. If it was another provider doing this 10 fold increase, I'd suspect they would fuck up and wouldn't be able to deliver. Linode earned my trust and I can't recommend them enough.

taligent 14y ago
Please. Major upgrades happen every single day among the various VPS providers. And whilst it is notable it isn't particularly useful to most Linode customers. In fact 99% won't see any difference at all. Had they actually decided to offer SSD based instances to compete with the likes of DigitalOcean then we would have something interesting. Also this is a terrible way for a company to earn trust. It should be earned based on their behaviour during the bad times. And we know how appalling Linode handles those.
- slig 14y ago
  My comment wasn't clear. Linode has earned my trust along the years (been a costumer since Jan/2009), via top notch support and quality hardware/network.
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machbio 14y ago

Cant Love them Enough, they are meticulous in their efforts and the most trustworthy VPS providers.. Just love them - can do free advertising for them - call me fan or follower.. we love Linode

pavs 14y ago

I never quite understood the love for premium vps like linode (also remember slicehost?). If you check out lowendbox vps, their top-rated providers almost always beats linode (and alike) in almost all category you can think of. Its nice that they are now increasing the bandwidth cap, but it was on the low side to begin with. My takeaway from this is that "linode finally joins everyone else in network speed and bandwidth." Don't get me wrong, I have used linode in the past and enjoyed them very much and never had any problems, and support was top notch. but their offering is not very impressive at all. Edit: wow, thats a lot of hostility... didn't realize linode reached fandom status. I guess I should keep my opinions to myself then?

cheald 14y ago
Support matters. When your neighbor is being DDOSed and you're offline as collateral damage, active support is the difference between happy customers and angry customer losses. For hobby boxes, yeah, sure, use whatever is the most cost-efficient.
- pavs 14y ago
  Most medium sized vps will provide DDOS measures to a certain limit (no one will provide full-proof DDOS support). Fast and good customer support from server providers are not as rare as they used to be, they are pretty much given.
- taligent 14y ago
  Linode is great during stable periods but when there is an outage or DDOS they are completely absent. I was sick to death of waiting whilst my Fremont instances were down due to power issues and receiving no response from support tickets. And based on their security incidents Linode is absolutely in the hobby box category as well. At least Amazon is PCI DSS compliant.
  - hoop 14y ago
    I don't know if this is still true, but when I started using Linode some years ago, Fremont was easily their worst datacenter. I've been in Newark without issue for some time now and I heard most of the other datacenters are pretty solid also. Regarding their support, I've submitted tickets at sometimes very odd hours and gotten responses back within minutes. What I really find amusing though is that you follow up your complaint of "completely absent during outage" with a reference to Amazon.

nodesocket 14y ago

Linode hands down is the best VPS company. I fully expect SSD drives to be available in Nextgen as well, looking forward to it.

DigitalJack 14y ago
DigitalOcean has been working well for me. They have SSD, but only single core.
- bjxrn 14y ago
  Looks like they have up to 4 cores in their standard plans, and up to 24 on their larger plans, all SSD: https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing https://www.digitalocean.com/pricing

Expez 14y ago

I have recently been thinking about moving to digitalocean, because they look like excellent value. I haven't made the move yet because of inertia, and Linode's customer service which is just mind-blowingly good. I suspect that in a couple of days I won't be able to spot a single patch of greener grass on the other side of the proverbial fence.

xur17 14y ago
I really wish DigitalOcean provided more then one core on their plans with < 2gb of memory. Despite that, I am probably going to move to the 512mb plan in the next year or so (once I get around to it). The backup feature is enough incentive alone.
- Matsta 14y ago
  Meh DigitalOcean is oversold. Each box has 128gb ram, so you are probably going to be on a server with 100+ other VPS's. Lots of people have been complaining about network speeds recently: http://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/8339/very-bad-performance-downloading-from-digital-ocean-vps-http/ http://www.lowendtalk.com/discussion/8339/very-bad-performan...
- josephb 14y ago
  I wish Digital Ocean supported IPv6.

gingerlime 14y ago

Linode is definitely one of the best VPS providers. They don't market it as 'fanatical', but their support is simply incredible. I like AWS too, but the lack of support (unless you pay loads) keeps me with Linode. Nextgen sounds cool. Extra bandwidth is great. I also hope they add more RAM and provide some kind of a storage pool to store images/snapshots/virtual-disks between different linodes (similar to cloudfiles or EBS).

gmac 14y ago
Completely agree. Cost of RAM (as disk cache for Postgres) is the one thing that's made me wonder about leaving Linode lately. They're otherwise utterly great.
- buro9 14y ago
  Cost of RAM, and the lack of SSD options.
zaius 14y ago
Their support is quick, but they only solve the problem if it's easy. My linode IP ended up on an email block list because of someone else on the subnet. I was on vacation so I wanted a quick solution and I asked for an extra IP for a week. They wouldn't do for any amount of money. I had to set up an extra server and redirect connections instead.
- gingerlime 14y ago
  I can't comment on your particular case, but it sounds odd that they didn't help out. Certainly not my experience with their support so far (and I've been with Linode for probably 4 or 5 years now and used their support on many occasions) However, it's so easy to fire-up another linode, shut down the host, move the disk image to the new linode, assign it and turn it on. You get a new IP, and can get rid of the old one. And all this via their web interface and with no need for support...
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ForFreedom 14y ago

What about Rackspace Cloud?

johnward 14y ago
Managed cloud at rackspace starts at $100 plus usage charges. Seems a bit high.
- ForFreedom 14y ago
  If managed, but unmanaged starts at $16.xx for 512MB and outbound traffic is at 0.12/GB I think
  - username111 14y ago
    Except now rackspace is even more expensive than linode for certain uses as the 2TB of bandwidth free would cost you an extra $240 on rackspace cloud and because bandwidth is shared between all linodes this extra bandwidth can make a big difference.
    - ForFreedom 14y ago
      If you are having 2TB BW then you would not host on linode or rackspace cloud, but take a dedicated server.

shimon_e 14y ago

Find this interesting? OVH is already upgrading routers to 100gbps and 500gbps versions. http://www.infinera.com/j7/servlet/NewsItem?newsItemID=336 http://www.infinera.com/j7/servlet/NewsItem?newsItemID=336

stfp 14y ago
OVH is super impressive. I really hope they manage to get better brand recognition in these parts.
corry 14y ago
+1 for OVH. Beastly machines at great prices, data centers in Canada / Europe (for people who can't store stuff in the US cloud), pretty good support.
giulianob 14y ago
Their servers seem extremely cheap. Are you basically getting what you pay for with their service or do they have solid uptime and solid support?
- dangrossman 14y ago
  The cheap 'servers' aren't servers -- they're desktop parts in a rack. Desktop hardware fails more often, and non-ECC RAM will experience multiple bit flips per year on average. That's fine for a dev/staging server, but not a good thing on a production server with paying customers.
  - shimon_e 14y ago
    Their real servers are quiet cheap and beefy. Drooling @ http://www.ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/eg_64g_ssd.xml http://www.ovh.com/us/dedicated-servers/eg_64g_ssd.xml

nemesisj 14y ago

We run our company using Linode as one of our primary providers. We're very, very happy with their uptimes, control panel, and particularly their support. It's a testament to their professionalism that they've been going about these pretty major changes without experiencing any downtime. I'd highly recommend them.

pw7 14y ago
Great to hear that, I switched from heroku to linode a couple of days ago and couldn't be happier. I haven't had to contact the support yet because the documentation is so excellent.

jpdoctor 14y ago

They talk about interconnectivity bandwidth, but not the pipes going out to the backbone or peering. Anyone know?

tshtf 14y ago

For those with high bandwidth needs this would really make sense. The cheapest package has 2TB of egress bandwidth; this would cost $228 (0.12 x 1900GB) with AWS EC2.

andyl 14y ago

I've had a system on Linode for the past two years. Zero problems, zero downtime. My experience with Linode has been very consistent and reliable.

Skywing 14y ago
My Linode accounts on their Dallas data center have gone through quite a bit of downtime over the years. Their support is why I've stuck with them, though.

azurelogic 14y ago

The irony is that, in spite of these upgrades, my first attempt to load the blog post timed out, and the second attempt was not speedy (or should I say SPDY?)

rschmitty 14y ago
I also had a time out. Perhaps they host their blog on some external service
- azurelogic 14y ago
  Probably an AWS micro instance

mrb 14y ago

I have a hard time trusting Linode after the major March 2012 security incident where an attacker compromised an internal system that let him gain access to any Linode Manager accounts: http://status.linode.com/2012/03/manager-security-incident.html http://status.linode.com/2012/03/manager-security-incident.h... and basically had access to all customers servers! I have a hard time trusting them because they specifically gave very little information. I would have expected a followup with a better response, like Google or Facebook do when they get compromised: "the attacker used exploit X on this developer's workstation, therefore we are doing Y to prevent this from happening again". They can work on increasing performance all they want, but if I do not have basic trust in the security of their infrastructure, this does not matter. I expect top-notch security especially from a "premium" VPS provider!

seany 14y ago
This type of thing is my primary complaint about linode. Their transparency on things that make them look even slightly bad is basically non existent.

TheShadowFog 14y ago

I've never used linode before, could someone explain to me what is so amazing about them?

api 14y ago

2TB is good... their old bandwidth was paltry. Everyone chant with me: price war! price war! price war!

sideproject 14y ago

Woo Hoo! I really don't understand much about what you guys are doing, but well, I'm a happy linode customer, so whatever it is that you are doing to make things faster, better, bring it on!

agwa 14y ago

Does anyone know if Linode has investors? I've never been able to find mention of any, and the fact that they've been in this for the long haul (since 2003) and are now expanding after seeing massive growth in the last two years[1] makes me think they're bootstrapped. If that's true it would be seriously awesome. They were started by a single founder too! [1] http://blog.linode.com/2012/08/28/linode-makes-2012-inc-500-list/ http://blog.linode.com/2012/08/28/linode-makes-2012-inc-500-...

iframe 14y ago

What is the cost of a Cisco Nexus 7000 Router and Switch?

amckenna 14y ago
$83,490 but the price rises dramatically if they filled all of the expansion slots. http://www.ctistore.com/catalog/cat/prod,574258.html?gclid=CK_Hi-3N67UCFY8WMgodZzwA_Q* http://www.ctistore.com/catalog/cat/prod,574258.html?gclid=C... http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/Cisco-Nexus-7000-Series-32-Port-10-Gigabit-Ethernet-Module-with-XL-Option/2816432.aspx?cm_mmc=ShoppingFeeds-_-GoogleBase-_-NetComm%20Products-_-2816432_Cisco%20Nexus%207000%20Series%2032-Port%2010%20Gigabit%20Ethernet%20Module%20with%20XL%20Option%20-_CIS-N7K-M132XP-12L=* http://www.cdw.com/shop/products/Cisco-Nexus-7000-Series-32-...
ejreynolds 14y ago
MSRP is (super roughly) $40-80k depending on how it is tricked out (choice of modules, etc).

Matsta 14y ago

Instead of getting a $20 VPS, why doesn't anyone consider a full dedicated for $12? http://www.ovh.ie/dedicated_servers/kimsufi.xml http://www.ovh.ie/dedicated_servers/kimsufi.xml I realise that people have mixed feelings about OVH, but I've yet to have a problem and 100% uptime. Plus I can max out 100 mbps on the server pretty easily. Another 2 providers that probably have a better reputation than Linode are BuyVM and RamNode: http://buyvm.net/ http://buyvm.net/ http://ramnode.com/ http://ramnode.com/ A 512mb is less than half price there and they use SSD's. But the main thing I'm seeing now for commercial sites, is why don't you use Jekyll and host your site on a CDN like Cloud Files or CloudFront? I'm suprised how cheap it is now to use a full on CDN to host your site. While it's not for everyone, most business sites are just a landing page and a wordpress blog, which would be much more resource efficient if it was hosted on a CDN, plus your pretty much guaranteed 100% uptime. So for under $20 you can get a SSD VPS and your site hosted on Akamai's CDN or just a $20 box from Linode :/

t0mislav 14y ago

I have Linode VPS for 3.5 yeras now, no problems at all.

t0mislav 14y ago

Now we are waiting part 2 and 3 of Linode Nextgen. (I think one part will be storage)

t0mislav 14y ago

I made little benchmark, Linode vs Digital Ocean http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5221477 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=5221477

windexh8er 14y ago

I'm actually most unimpressed with the vendor selection. So now Linode has Cisco overhead in their premium tier of hardware. Not good from a costing perspective. The Cisco Nexus line is hardly next generation when it comes to R&S product. Linode is in a position to seriously consider SDN and they shoot themselves in the foot with one of the most stagnant companies as it applies to new and innovative product for pushing packets. I'd have been far more impressed with Juniper in the hot seat here. At least they're more cost competitive. You can get a full non-blocking 10Gb L3 switch (480Gb backplane) for less than $20k fully loaded up with 10Gb SRs out of their EX line if you're looking to play it safe in 'standard' networking. The good part about software is there's far less vendor bias. This just smells of a Cisco blowhard touting the wonders of a fully vendor locked network. And software people seem to be less informed of the reality that is how the current norm of the networking realm works. Good luck to them. I've put in plenty of ASR and Nexus gear in the past few years. They'll need it.

dangrossman 14y ago
Were they wrong when they said the Cisco product was the only one that could handle their routing requirements?
- wmf 14y ago
  Yes. There are plenty of large data centers that are non-Cisco and I'm not aware of any performance requirement that can only be met by Cisco.
- caf 14y ago
  I can see how you read it that way, but that's not what they said. They said that the Cisco Nexus 7000 is the only Cisco device that could handle their routing requirements.
  - dangrossman 14y ago
    My mistake :)
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404error 14y ago

As a new customer who has had nothing but a great experience so far, thank you.

alexkus 14y ago

900% increase.

zupa-hu 14y ago
I wished it was not only bugging me

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vertis 14y ago

Wahey! I love good news. I'm still running a bunch of linodes for free off the credit I won for http://faxitforme.com http://faxitforme.com in Rails Rumble 2012

jacques_chester 14y ago

Once I moved out of the Fremont DC, I was very happy with Linode. But I have sites that choke on quite modest I/O. I waited for Linode to install SSDs, then waited, and waited more. Last week I gave up and moved to DigitalOcean.

bfrog 14y ago

Been using linode for 3 years now for a little instance to do basic stuff on. Its only ever been down once for a move to a new, faster, host. Even that they gave significant notice for and plenty of time for me to move it (I chose when to move it).

Void_ 14y ago

If you went from 200GB to 2000GB, you increased 200GB 10 times, you increased it by 1800GB, you increased it by 900%, not 1000%. Just sayin'.

johnpowell 14y ago

I love Linode but the paltry RAM got me to move to someone else that I have been happy with for the last month. The customer service was great but the specs were bad. If they double the RAM for the same price I would move back in a heartbeat. Hopefully Nextgen v.2 adds RAM for the same price.

lhnn 14y ago

I was hoping to find some intelligent conversation here about their use of BGP as a per-server load balancer and keepalive. Anyone else find this interesting? Have you seen this in other compmanies?

karolist 14y ago

I have been Linode customer since sometime 2008 I think till last month, when I fully migrated to Digital Ocean to two, individually better instances for half the price than my one box at Linode. I was running Gentoo at London DC without any issues, my major gripes with Linode was how hard was it to get additional IPv4 addresses without lying about your reasons - i.e running services on different IP addresses or separating your business/personal websites (and very easy if you lied, I know someone who did). Another thing was that I paid them by a virtual CC and always put there just enough money for transaction every month, it's dedicated for internet pay only and prevents cc fraud, but every now and then they'd get the card declined at the beginning of the month cause I didn't put the money in yet, like 2nd or 3rd day and always always there was this template threatening ticket put in by a person in my account. I was paying them every month for years, so what if I have outstanding balance on the 2nd or 3rd, is that the reason to threat deleting my stuff? That felt really alienating. Digital Ocean, while don't hand out IP addresses at all, costs so little that it's $1 + damn good reason at Linode or $5 and a VPS on top for the IP at DO. The support at DO is nor fast, nor technical, I had issues with my Gentoo builds basically where after reboot /dev/null would come up being a text file with junk in it, you can mknod it but it wouldn't survive reboot. I've raised a ticket and they've removed Gentoo from selection, but I doubt it's fixed and and I'll have to work some ugly hacks to work around this if it happens again. They use a kernel loaded from below, so you won't really have latest and greatest Arch if you use that, kernel upgrades are in pkg ignore list and even if upgraded it won't load. I might return to Linode sometime in the future if DO messes up my Gentoos again and Linode does better at matching DO's offer. At the moment, if you don't need to scale a lot (it's not as convenient at Linode, $20 vs $5 starts to hurt as the number of boxes go up, also Linode doesn't bill you by the our) and just want a personal server for your website I'd still go with Linode, especially after increased transfer quotas.

welcomen 14y ago

Someone in the world are always unsatisfied for everything, yes, everything, no matter what you changed, no matter what you improved, they always always can point something out there to complain about. Example!? Right here!