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You're living in a dream world! Rape means forced intercourse. Nobody says "sf was getting raped until the second half" - nobody except a complete moron with th

by hnriot 14y ago

You're living in a dream world! Rape means forced intercourse. Nobody says "sf was getting raped until the second half" - nobody except a complete moron with the sensitivity of a very insensitive thing. Among my friends, someone saying those example sentences would make the others there cringe and feel embarrassed by the person talking like that.

adventured 14y ago
I find it embarrassing when someone uses argument from intimidation multiple times in such a small amount of text.
fennecfoxen 14y ago
This post will examine the use of a term 'raped' to mean 'suffer significant setbacks in a sports game' on Twitter, specifically regarding the Superbowl. It will make no moral judgement for or against the use of the term. https://twitter.com/panther_mike/status/298244459370528770 https://twitter.com/panther_mike/status/298244459370528770 "SF must have requested the lights to be off while they are getting raped. #SuperBowl" https://twitter.com/SprtsHumor/status/298249906550886400 https://twitter.com/SprtsHumor/status/298249906550886400 "Niners were shy about getting butt raped with the lights on." https://twitter.com/harkamalsingh/statuses/298243230112301060 https://twitter.com/harkamalsingh/statuses/29824323011230106... "OMFG! 49ers getting butt raped! #superbowl" https://twitter.com/albert2036/status/293092361087639553 https://twitter.com/albert2036/status/293092361087639553 "@GeneBean29 nope ravens are gunna get raped....they should've lost the last game it was all luck. :P" https://twitter.com/FMirmontes/status/298232317242130432 https://twitter.com/FMirmontes/status/298232317242130432 "Dang #49ers getting raped hella hard haha funny ass #SuperBowl game" https://twitter.com/paraffinn/status/298251727478603776 https://twitter.com/paraffinn/status/298251727478603776 "49ers getting raped #superbowl" https://twitter.com/kkaykkay/status/298244379393548288 https://twitter.com/kkaykkay/status/298244379393548288 "@BankyW u watching this too...hahaha...49ers are getting raped...somebody help!!!" I could look for some more, and easily find them, but you get the picture. Conclusion: The term 'raped' is widely used to mean 'suffer significant setbacks or defeat in a sports match'. I will hereby question who is living in a fantasy world where "nobody says" these things. I will ALSO note the irony of calling all these people out for being insensitive while using the term "retarded", which may be offensive to people whose mental development is actually in fact delayed, or those who would identify themselves as differently-mentally-able. I will make suggestions: Limit yourself in the future to calling the comments using a "rape" metaphor for sports crude and offensive, and leave it at that. Avoid undue disparagement of people who disagree with your values - you can leave it at disparaging their values. Avoid attempts to use peer pressure to assert cultural norms, it doesn't work outside your cultural peer group, you may be in the minority, and isn't really a compelling argument anyway. Kthx.
- etfb 14y ago
  Meh. No. People who use the word that way are wrong, stupid and nasty. Cultural relativism doesn't get a look in. I award your argument zero points.
- fennecfoxen 14y ago
  (replying to my own post because post depth limit reached) etfb: Oh, don't get me wrong. I'm not a cultural relativist and believe people who use the term are in fact crude and insensitive. All my observations suggestions still stand, though. These people are not retarded and many may in fact be highly intelligent. (And it's not nice to call people retarded anyway.) They may or many not outnumber you, but are a significant cultural force one way or another, so the peer pressure argument is ineffective. And describing the matter as "nobody uses this metaphor" with exceptions is a poor way to describe the matter at best.
- mackem 14y ago
  "My back is killing me!" "If Jeff keeps making that annoying noise I'm gonna kill him." "Traffic was absolute murder today..." "Being stuck in a stuffy office on a day like this is torture." Are these example's of insensitive trivialization of murder and torture? Only if you're completely incapable (or unwilling) of making the distinction between words and their intended meaning. If hearing someone saying "murder", "kill", "torture" or "rape" in a non-serious context can make you take those ACTS less seriously then you're a a worryingly gullible/amoral person, then the problem lies with you, not with people who don't happen to have a joyless, unerringly literal approach to language that they use to make themselves self-appointed sensitivity police (i.e enjoy that practise humans enjoy so much that is telling other people they're doing stuff wrong). Of course, you'd never take murder or rape less seriously just because it was used non-seriously as word; only stupid people would do that. It's only those other people who would be influenced so easily by language, and its for them language has to be regulated. "Wait, someone is using the word rape in relation to the result of a trivial sports result? That must mean raping people isn't a serious issue! Thank god society has given me permission to violate other people through non-literal use of language!" This is the same kind of nonsense that makes people say videogames with fantasy violence in them are bad because they desensitize people to violence. Sorry, us intelligent, compassionate people are actually capable of distinguishing between fantasy, hyperbole, metaphor, and real life immoral acts. Even young children are capable of making this distinction when they play soldiers or whatever and pretend to kill each other and die. If you're abilities in sensitivity are being surpassed by children, you may want to redress your values instead of focussing on what you see as faults in others.
jiggy2011 14y ago
Use of sexual words, "raped", "fucked","buggered" in a non sexual context is incredibly common.
- illuminate 14y ago
  The usage refers to direct sexual context, even when directed towards traditionally unsexual behaviors.

by hnriot 14y ago

adventured 14y ago

I find it embarrassing when someone uses argument from intimidation multiple times in such a small amount of text.

fennecfoxen 14y ago

This post will examine the use of a term 'raped' to mean 'suffer significant setbacks in a sports game' on Twitter, specifically regarding the Superbowl. It will make no moral judgement for or against the use of the term. https://twitter.com/panther_mike/status/298244459370528770 https://twitter.com/panther_mike/status/298244459370528770 "SF must have requested the lights to be off while they are getting raped. #SuperBowl" https://twitter.com/SprtsHumor/status/298249906550886400 https://twitter.com/SprtsHumor/status/298249906550886400 "Niners were shy about getting butt raped with the lights on." https://twitter.com/harkamalsingh/statuses/298243230112301060 https://twitter.com/harkamalsingh/statuses/29824323011230106... "OMFG! 49ers getting butt raped! #superbowl" https://twitter.com/albert2036/status/293092361087639553 https://twitter.com/albert2036/status/293092361087639553 "@GeneBean29 nope ravens are gunna get raped....they should've lost the last game it was all luck. :P" https://twitter.com/FMirmontes/status/298232317242130432 https://twitter.com/FMirmontes/status/298232317242130432 "Dang #49ers getting raped hella hard haha funny ass #SuperBowl game" https://twitter.com/paraffinn/status/298251727478603776 https://twitter.com/paraffinn/status/298251727478603776 "49ers getting raped #superbowl" https://twitter.com/kkaykkay/status/298244379393548288 https://twitter.com/kkaykkay/status/298244379393548288 "@BankyW u watching this too...hahaha...49ers are getting raped...somebody help!!!" I could look for some more, and easily find them, but you get the picture. Conclusion: The term 'raped' is widely used to mean 'suffer significant setbacks or defeat in a sports match'. I will hereby question who is living in a fantasy world where "nobody says" these things. I will ALSO note the irony of calling all these people out for being insensitive while using the term "retarded", which may be offensive to people whose mental development is actually in fact delayed, or those who would identify themselves as differently-mentally-able. I will make suggestions: Limit yourself in the future to calling the comments using a "rape" metaphor for sports crude and offensive, and leave it at that. Avoid undue disparagement of people who disagree with your values - you can leave it at disparaging their values. Avoid attempts to use peer pressure to assert cultural norms, it doesn't work outside your cultural peer group, you may be in the minority, and isn't really a compelling argument anyway. Kthx.

etfb 14y ago
Meh. No. People who use the word that way are wrong, stupid and nasty. Cultural relativism doesn't get a look in. I award your argument zero points.
fennecfoxen 14y ago
(replying to my own post because post depth limit reached) etfb: Oh, don't get me wrong. I'm not a cultural relativist and believe people who use the term are in fact crude and insensitive. All my observations suggestions still stand, though. These people are not retarded and many may in fact be highly intelligent. (And it's not nice to call people retarded anyway.) They may or many not outnumber you, but are a significant cultural force one way or another, so the peer pressure argument is ineffective. And describing the matter as "nobody uses this metaphor" with exceptions is a poor way to describe the matter at best.
mackem 14y ago
"My back is killing me!" "If Jeff keeps making that annoying noise I'm gonna kill him." "Traffic was absolute murder today..." "Being stuck in a stuffy office on a day like this is torture." Are these example's of insensitive trivialization of murder and torture? Only if you're completely incapable (or unwilling) of making the distinction between words and their intended meaning. If hearing someone saying "murder", "kill", "torture" or "rape" in a non-serious context can make you take those ACTS less seriously then you're a a worryingly gullible/amoral person, then the problem lies with you, not with people who don't happen to have a joyless, unerringly literal approach to language that they use to make themselves self-appointed sensitivity police (i.e enjoy that practise humans enjoy so much that is telling other people they're doing stuff wrong). Of course, you'd never take murder or rape less seriously just because it was used non-seriously as word; only stupid people would do that. It's only those other people who would be influenced so easily by language, and its for them language has to be regulated. "Wait, someone is using the word rape in relation to the result of a trivial sports result? That must mean raping people isn't a serious issue! Thank god society has given me permission to violate other people through non-literal use of language!" This is the same kind of nonsense that makes people say videogames with fantasy violence in them are bad because they desensitize people to violence. Sorry, us intelligent, compassionate people are actually capable of distinguishing between fantasy, hyperbole, metaphor, and real life immoral acts. Even young children are capable of making this distinction when they play soldiers or whatever and pretend to kill each other and die. If you're abilities in sensitivity are being surpassed by children, you may want to redress your values instead of focussing on what you see as faults in others.

jiggy2011 14y ago

Use of sexual words, "raped", "fucked","buggered" in a non sexual context is incredibly common.

illuminate 14y ago
The usage refers to direct sexual context, even when directed towards traditionally unsexual behaviors.