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It had me until she wrote (when comparing to iOS) " Android is obviously out of the question since it's just a different flavor of the same garbage". How can an

It had me until she wrote (when comparing to iOS) " Android is obviously out of the question since it's just a different flavor of the same garbage". How can an opensource OS be just another flavor of the entirely closed and walled off iPhone?

natermer 14y ago
While the Android OS itself is open source, the apps and everything you interact with tends to be closed source, locked down, and keeps track of everything you do just like iOS does. So the typical use case for Android isn't really any different then iOS. You can 'free yourself' by using open source firmwares like Cyanogenmod and picking apps that are open or at least honor your privacy much more then the typical fair, but then you are going back to the same "Land of Linux" were everything and anything is possible, but it's all kind of a PITA. Personally I just suffer along with Linux. I prefer the way it sucks to the way Windows or OS X sucks.
comex 14y ago
natermer, FYI, your comment is marked dead.
- curiousdannii 14y ago
  Maybe because of the last three words?
  - disgruntledphd2 14y ago
    Natermer, that comment should not be dead. Indeed, it makes little sense that any of your comments are dead, save that you took unpopular opinions (I practice I support in general). So, please allow me to register my sadness on this matter. It is poor form for anyone to be ignored, and certainly not OK for them to be ignored based on their opinions on a board called Hacker News. Its not surprising (we're much better as a species at saying stuff than we are at living up to those words) but it's still sad.
    - natermer 14y ago
      I don't think it was done on purpose.
rachelbythebay 14y ago
iOS: sell your soul to Apple. Android: sell your soul to Google. The thing is, I already did the second one to a far greater degree than most people ever do. I'm not about to repeat it.
- w1ntermute 14y ago
  > Android: sell your soul to Google. Nobody is forcing you to use Google apps on an Android device. If the market decides that the Google experience is subpar, they will be replaced. This has already sort of happened with the Kindle Fire. It forced Google to respond with a better device (the Nexus 7).
  - happycube 14y ago
    In fact, you could unlock the bootloader on any Nexus device, load Cyanogenmod, and not deal with anything Google aside from the core OS, using fdroid to get free software apps.
    - Nerdfest 14y ago
      You actually don't even need any connection to Google even on their own Nexus devices.
  - eropple 14y ago
    > If the market decides that the Google experience is subpar, they will be replaced. "The market" has done no such thing (the atrocious Kindle Fires excepted) so if you have a beef with the "Google experience" (I personally don't) you're pretty much screwed. There are no good, Google-free options for Android. I don't find that to be a problem but I can understand why others would.
    - w1ntermute 14y ago
      > "The market" has done no such thing (the atrocious Kindle Fires excepted) so if you have a beef with the "Google experience" (I personally don't) you're pretty much screwed. Because the market has decided that it likes the Google experience.
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natermer 14y ago

While the Android OS itself is open source, the apps and everything you interact with tends to be closed source, locked down, and keeps track of everything you do just like iOS does. So the typical use case for Android isn't really any different then iOS. You can 'free yourself' by using open source firmwares like Cyanogenmod and picking apps that are open or at least honor your privacy much more then the typical fair, but then you are going back to the same "Land of Linux" were everything and anything is possible, but it's all kind of a PITA. Personally I just suffer along with Linux. I prefer the way it sucks to the way Windows or OS X sucks.

comex 14y ago

natermer, FYI, your comment is marked dead.

curiousdannii 14y ago
Maybe because of the last three words?
- disgruntledphd2 14y ago
  Natermer, that comment should not be dead. Indeed, it makes little sense that any of your comments are dead, save that you took unpopular opinions (I practice I support in general). So, please allow me to register my sadness on this matter. It is poor form for anyone to be ignored, and certainly not OK for them to be ignored based on their opinions on a board called Hacker News. Its not surprising (we're much better as a species at saying stuff than we are at living up to those words) but it's still sad.
  - natermer 14y ago
    I don't think it was done on purpose.

rachelbythebay 14y ago

iOS: sell your soul to Apple. Android: sell your soul to Google. The thing is, I already did the second one to a far greater degree than most people ever do. I'm not about to repeat it.

w1ntermute 14y ago
> Android: sell your soul to Google. Nobody is forcing you to use Google apps on an Android device. If the market decides that the Google experience is subpar, they will be replaced. This has already sort of happened with the Kindle Fire. It forced Google to respond with a better device (the Nexus 7).
- happycube 14y ago
  In fact, you could unlock the bootloader on any Nexus device, load Cyanogenmod, and not deal with anything Google aside from the core OS, using fdroid to get free software apps.
  - Nerdfest 14y ago
    You actually don't even need any connection to Google even on their own Nexus devices.
- eropple 14y ago
  > If the market decides that the Google experience is subpar, they will be replaced. "The market" has done no such thing (the atrocious Kindle Fires excepted) so if you have a beef with the "Google experience" (I personally don't) you're pretty much screwed. There are no good, Google-free options for Android. I don't find that to be a problem but I can understand why others would.
  - w1ntermute 14y ago
    > "The market" has done no such thing (the atrocious Kindle Fires excepted) so if you have a beef with the "Google experience" (I personally don't) you're pretty much screwed. Because the market has decided that it likes the Google experience.

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