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My only concern now is how do you find pure LSD/Psylocybin? As in, how do you know that you're buying what you think you're buying? Obviously in a controlled,

by steeve 14y ago

My only concern now is how do you find pure LSD/Psylocybin? As in, how do you know that you're buying what you think you're buying? Obviously in a controlled, medical environment the problem is void. NB: I am NOT advocating drug use/abuse of any kind. This is a legitimate question I've been asking myself for quite some time.

zwegner 14y ago
Well, luckily, psilocybin is easy enough to grow on your own in the form of mushrooms, though quite illegal. The information is out there if you look for it.
- scarecrowbob 14y ago
  Indeed-- this is fairly trivial to do, though as noted, illegal.
gnosis 14y ago
Well, one way is to learn organic chemistry and synthesize the substances yourself (or know people who do this). Another way is to pick or grow psychedelic mushrooms. Before picking wild psychedelic mushrooms, I strongly suggest you learn a lot about how to identify them (ideally not just from books, though good books are important, but from experienced mushroom hunters). Picking wild mushrooms can be very dangerous. As the saying goes, there are old mushroom hunters and there are bold mushroom hunters, but there are no old, bold mushroom hunters. Yet another way is to go to a country where these substances are legal, decriminalized, or tolerated. Until recently, the Netherlands effectively allowed the sale of psychedelic mushrooms. Erowid's Law Vault may help you find other countries with less idiotic drug laws than the US.[1] Finally, you can submit a sample of your substance to, or get testing kits from companies such as: [2][3] [1] - https://erowid.org/psychoactives/law/law.shtml https://erowid.org/psychoactives/law/law.shtml [2] - http://www.dancesafe.org/ http://www.dancesafe.org/ [3] - http://www.ecstasydata.org/about.php http://www.ecstasydata.org/about.php
- mnicole 14y ago
  I'll add this to your comment since it's much better than the one I'd written; Dancesafe sells DIY kits for certain chemicals as well -- http://dancesafe.org/products/testing-kits http://dancesafe.org/products/testing-kits
jsn 14y ago
It's pretty simple with LSD. You should buy it in blotter form. A piece of blotter can only contain so much of active material (fractions of a milligram). It's too small a dose for almost any psychoactive substances to have any effect on you. LSD and DOB are rare exceptions to this rule. So if you have something on a blotter, it's either LSD or DOB. Now, DOB is very bitter, and LSD has no taste. If you put a piece of blotter in your mouth, and it tastes bitter, just spit it out -- that's probably DOB. Otherwise, it's LSD, and it's pure.
- HeyImAlex 14y ago
  DOB blotter is sometimes a little thicker/larger since dosage is about 10x heavier than the equivalent of LSD. Bad mistake to make by the way since DOB is less tested, lasts considerably longer and takes around 2 hours to kick in. I didn't know that LSD wasn't ever supposed to taste. Figured the bitterness was just from the ink on the blotter. Took three tabs, felt it a little (comparable to 100ug), figured it was just weak acid and so redosed five more tabs about two hours in. Even on heroic acid trips the longest I'd been away was eight hours. On DOB I stayed out for a solid 24.
  - jsn 14y ago
    Yeah, DOB (and any other DOx, I suppose?) seems pretty bad. Very bad trips are apparently both much more probable and much more unpleasant on DOB than on acid. I don't think I know anyone who tried DOB and would recommend it.
    - disgruntledphd2 14y ago
      I spent a summer taking DOB once. I would certainly recommend it, in the right environment and once you know what you're taking. However, this particular DOB was distributed in pill form, so people believed that it was ecstasy, so I saw a lot of bad things happen to people from it. Its a really interesting psychedelic (in my opinion) but definitely needs to be handled with care. You need at least 48 hours after taking any appreciable dose to return to "normality" so if you are taking it, make sure that you have at least two days free.
sv123 14y ago
Silk road.
- jrogers65 14y ago
  Please don't publicise this - Gawker already did enough damage. If some of the more interesting things become popular enough then governments will begin to attack them. In fact, there has already been at least one conviction regarding what you mentioned. Authorities have a terrible fear of things they do not control and are quite willing to become very violent to expand their influence. The less they know, the better.
  - cnp 14y ago
    Agreed. Be careful who you mention it to. Its a beautiful place for responsible individuals but a death sentence for many. You do not want to go there with a habit.
hkolek 14y ago
Growing Psilocybe mushrooms is really easy: http://www.shroomery.org/11432/Lets-Grow-Mushrooms-Pf-tek-videos http://www.shroomery.org/11432/Lets-Grow-Mushrooms-Pf-tek-vi...

by steeve 14y ago

zwegner 14y ago

Well, luckily, psilocybin is easy enough to grow on your own in the form of mushrooms, though quite illegal. The information is out there if you look for it.

scarecrowbob 14y ago
Indeed-- this is fairly trivial to do, though as noted, illegal.

gnosis 14y ago

Well, one way is to learn organic chemistry and synthesize the substances yourself (or know people who do this). Another way is to pick or grow psychedelic mushrooms. Before picking wild psychedelic mushrooms, I strongly suggest you learn a lot about how to identify them (ideally not just from books, though good books are important, but from experienced mushroom hunters). Picking wild mushrooms can be very dangerous. As the saying goes, there are old mushroom hunters and there are bold mushroom hunters, but there are no old, bold mushroom hunters. Yet another way is to go to a country where these substances are legal, decriminalized, or tolerated. Until recently, the Netherlands effectively allowed the sale of psychedelic mushrooms. Erowid's Law Vault may help you find other countries with less idiotic drug laws than the US.[1] Finally, you can submit a sample of your substance to, or get testing kits from companies such as: [2][3] [1] - https://erowid.org/psychoactives/law/law.shtml https://erowid.org/psychoactives/law/law.shtml [2] - http://www.dancesafe.org/ http://www.dancesafe.org/ [3] - http://www.ecstasydata.org/about.php http://www.ecstasydata.org/about.php

mnicole 14y ago
I'll add this to your comment since it's much better than the one I'd written; Dancesafe sells DIY kits for certain chemicals as well -- http://dancesafe.org/products/testing-kits http://dancesafe.org/products/testing-kits

jsn 14y ago

It's pretty simple with LSD. You should buy it in blotter form. A piece of blotter can only contain so much of active material (fractions of a milligram). It's too small a dose for almost any psychoactive substances to have any effect on you. LSD and DOB are rare exceptions to this rule. So if you have something on a blotter, it's either LSD or DOB. Now, DOB is very bitter, and LSD has no taste. If you put a piece of blotter in your mouth, and it tastes bitter, just spit it out -- that's probably DOB. Otherwise, it's LSD, and it's pure.

HeyImAlex 14y ago
DOB blotter is sometimes a little thicker/larger since dosage is about 10x heavier than the equivalent of LSD. Bad mistake to make by the way since DOB is less tested, lasts considerably longer and takes around 2 hours to kick in. I didn't know that LSD wasn't ever supposed to taste. Figured the bitterness was just from the ink on the blotter. Took three tabs, felt it a little (comparable to 100ug), figured it was just weak acid and so redosed five more tabs about two hours in. Even on heroic acid trips the longest I'd been away was eight hours. On DOB I stayed out for a solid 24.
- jsn 14y ago
  Yeah, DOB (and any other DOx, I suppose?) seems pretty bad. Very bad trips are apparently both much more probable and much more unpleasant on DOB than on acid. I don't think I know anyone who tried DOB and would recommend it.
  - disgruntledphd2 14y ago
    I spent a summer taking DOB once. I would certainly recommend it, in the right environment and once you know what you're taking. However, this particular DOB was distributed in pill form, so people believed that it was ecstasy, so I saw a lot of bad things happen to people from it. Its a really interesting psychedelic (in my opinion) but definitely needs to be handled with care. You need at least 48 hours after taking any appreciable dose to return to "normality" so if you are taking it, make sure that you have at least two days free.

sv123 14y ago

Silk road.

jrogers65 14y ago
Please don't publicise this - Gawker already did enough damage. If some of the more interesting things become popular enough then governments will begin to attack them. In fact, there has already been at least one conviction regarding what you mentioned. Authorities have a terrible fear of things they do not control and are quite willing to become very violent to expand their influence. The less they know, the better.
- cnp 14y ago
  Agreed. Be careful who you mention it to. Its a beautiful place for responsible individuals but a death sentence for many. You do not want to go there with a habit.

hkolek 14y ago

Growing Psilocybe mushrooms is really easy: http://www.shroomery.org/11432/Lets-Grow-Mushrooms-Pf-tek-videos http://www.shroomery.org/11432/Lets-Grow-Mushrooms-Pf-tek-vi...