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Just because Hitler killed himself doesn't mean you don't shoot back at the soldiers defending Berlin.

aqme28 14y ago
I think the analogy you should have used is "The war is over and the Germans have surrendered. Now let's continue to kill people who were "involved" in "activities."
- redthrowaway 14y ago
  The death of bin Laden does not mean that Al Qaeda is not a threat. Just because the AQ leadership has been decimated does not mean that you cease operations against them, or that its members cease to be legitimate military targets. Edit: My response made more sense before the parent edited their comment. Their original comment simply asked me to explain how mine was appropriate in the context of this discussion.
- redthrowaway 14y ago
  That's a ridiculous analogy. The war is by no means over, and no one's surrendered.
  - adventured 14y ago
    The whole idea is to make sure the war is never over. Which is why America is now in a state of permanent war. Can't go on spending a trillion a year on 'security' and 'defense' if there's no war to rally around.
    - mc32 14y ago
      Columbia has had an insurgency war going on for 60 or so years, if not more. I don't think people think "how can we prolong this conflict, this war must not stop!" It's mainly opposition (not incumbent) forces are like that, they seldom want to give in. Look at NI or Sri Lanka. Even after peace treaties, renegades continue on.
- mc32 14y ago
  Nazi Germany was organized and hierarchical and wore identifying uniforms (unlike AQ, which is purpose-built cell-based). When German forces were defeated, there wasn't a threat of ongoing action from factional Nazis --well, there were a few who refused to surrender and became saboteurs and the Allies did search for and destroy them.
  - jlgreco 14y ago
    > well, there were a few who refused to surrender and became saboteurs and the Allies did search for and destroy them. Interesting article about Japanese troops who were not aware of the surrender, or refused to recognize it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_holdout http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_holdout
- emkemp 14y ago
  Al-Qaeda surrendered?

I think the analogy you should have used is "The war is over and the Germans have surrendered. Now let's continue to kill people who were "involved" in "activities."

redthrowaway 14y ago
The death of bin Laden does not mean that Al Qaeda is not a threat. Just because the AQ leadership has been decimated does not mean that you cease operations against them, or that its members cease to be legitimate military targets. Edit: My response made more sense before the parent edited their comment. Their original comment simply asked me to explain how mine was appropriate in the context of this discussion.
redthrowaway 14y ago
That's a ridiculous analogy. The war is by no means over, and no one's surrendered.
- adventured 14y ago
  The whole idea is to make sure the war is never over. Which is why America is now in a state of permanent war. Can't go on spending a trillion a year on 'security' and 'defense' if there's no war to rally around.
  - mc32 14y ago
    Columbia has had an insurgency war going on for 60 or so years, if not more. I don't think people think "how can we prolong this conflict, this war must not stop!" It's mainly opposition (not incumbent) forces are like that, they seldom want to give in. Look at NI or Sri Lanka. Even after peace treaties, renegades continue on.
mc32 14y ago
Nazi Germany was organized and hierarchical and wore identifying uniforms (unlike AQ, which is purpose-built cell-based). When German forces were defeated, there wasn't a threat of ongoing action from factional Nazis --well, there were a few who refused to surrender and became saboteurs and the Allies did search for and destroy them.
- jlgreco 14y ago
  > well, there were a few who refused to surrender and became saboteurs and the Allies did search for and destroy them. Interesting article about Japanese troops who were not aware of the surrender, or refused to recognize it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_holdout http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_holdout
emkemp 14y ago
Al-Qaeda surrendered?