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Let me refresh that for you.

51 points by justindocanto 14y ago

solox3 14y ago
An unbelievable number of scripts implementing a browser built-in/extension, leading to this (Opera): Error https://play.google.com/store The website does not permit its content to be displayed in a frame. It must be displayed in a separate window. There are definitely better solutions.
- justindocanto 14y ago
  I agree there are better solutions but some people dont bother with plugins or scripts and/or just want a simple/quick web-based solution... and that is what this is aimed for. Also worth noting: I literally spent 2 hours max on it. I know a few people who could use it, myself included, coded it real quick... and then here we are.
- artursapek 14y ago
  How does one set their website to be iframe unfriendly? Intriguing.
  - regecks 14y ago
    The Google Play store tells the browser what framing policy to use with X-Frame-Options (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/HTTP/X-Frame-Options https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/HTTP/X-Frame-Option...): x-frame-options:SAMEORIGIN However you could also check for: window.top == window
  - abrkn 14y ago
    if (window.top !== window) { window.top.location = window.location } It's useful if your website is being iframed to display ads or exploited with cross window communication security holes (old school) http://i.imgur.com/ePFbiIT.png http://i.imgur.com/ePFbiIT.png
    - justindocanto 14y ago
      Would it be wrong of me to implement on the site to prevent that from happening? haha
lucb1e 14y ago
What's this for? If I ever need auto-refresh I'll just install an addon or extension. I already can't remember the URL for this. Or if I don't have an addon installed, I could just write a Javascript one-liner in the javascript console.
- justindocanto 14y ago
  Like I mentioned on the other comment, i agree that there are better solutions... but sometimes you just need a quick solution to use in the browser. I, myself, hate plugins & having to copy/paste script or code. I just want to click a bookmark, do what I need to do, and get out. That's why I made this.
  - bpatrianakos 14y ago
    You know what'd be cool? If you made this into a plugin too! But then maybe you'd get a lot of "this already exists except better" comments. So maybe if you did that you could just let me know and everyone who's too cool can keep their useless negativity to needlessly criticize someone else.
- jevinskie 14y ago
  Isn't a bookmark just as convenient as an addon? Especially with an omnibar/awesomebar?
mrsoap23 14y ago
shitty ddos tool? that's the only use I see in this.
- justindocanto 14y ago
  That would be a very slow and very inaffective DDOS.
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    - Scriptor 14y ago
      Web browsers throttle the number of concurrent connections to a domain.
      - justindocanto 14y ago
        This is also true.
    - justindocanto 14y ago
      Anybody who could write the javascript to make that happen wouldn't need my website to make it happen. They could just enter most of what they would write directly into their browser bar.
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  - Strshps1MoreTim 14y ago
    Right, on to registering letmeddosthatforyou.com :D
  - abcd_f 14y ago
    It's still good for polluting traffic logs and skewing analytics.
- 14y ago
bpatrianakos 14y ago
Wow, please don't be discouraged by all the negativity. Sure there are plugins and scripts to do this but I, like you, don't like installing many plugins and I'd use this so rarely that I'd forget where the script was by the time I needed it. So having this bookmarked for those odd occasions when I'd use it is the perfect solution. Furthermore I'd say the current comments exemplify why many like myself no longer share or comment much on HN these days. Say what you will but the quality of discussions is devolving into a big who-can-act-more-jaded-and-know-it-all-ish contest. I'd be willing to bet there are just tons of people who'd want something like this. It's not about "oh there are better solutions" or "more elegant" solutions. It comes down to personal preference and tastes. For every person who's too cool for a browser based solutions there are ten more who'd rather have this than a plugin but don't say anything and just use it.
- justindocanto 14y ago
  First, THANK YOU! Second, yeah... some of the tone seems to be harsh but at the same time the comments do have some valid criticisms in them. Some people DO prefer scripts and hand-coded approaches... but like You & I, some people don't. So, I take it with a grain of salt. (I now appreciate that phrase a little more). Another demographic I kept in mind aside from coders... is people like my former roommate. She doesn't even know what javascript is and would want a way to just simply check if tickets for her favorite festival finally went on sale (ie. Coachella sold out in 5 minutes this year and she spent a lot of refreshing trying to check on it) so that's also a demographic I was aiming to help. With all that said... It's not like I'm releasing a product I spent hundreds of hours or hundreds of dollars on, so I'm not entirely crushed if nobody finds it useful. At the same time, it's nice to see somebody else DOES find it useful so I really appreciate the positive feedback. I hope it gets a few bookmarks and helps some people out. I know my old roommate already has it bookmarked. =)
  - rooshdi 14y ago
    Most people don't even know what a browser is, let alone how to use plug-ins, so this approach should be better for 99% of people. Great job and great regular solution to a regular problem.
homakov 14y ago
looks like a startup
- justindocanto 14y ago
  that's probably because of the bootstrap template.
  - abcd_f 14y ago
    I'm sure it was a sarcastic remark.
robbles 14y ago
Cool project! I also use a browser extension for this currently, but the obvious advantage to this is you can use it on any browser immediately as long as you remember the domain name. One suggestion - it would be a bit more useful if you hid the top bar while it's in "refreshing mode", and made the iframe take up the whole page. You could put a little icon in one of the top corners to reveal it again. I've used tools like this in the past to show analytics and news dashboards, and you typically want to keep as much screen real estate as possible.
- justindocanto 14y ago
  I was thinking about that (hiding the toolbar). That's a great idea of making a little icon that lets you return to it. It would also solve the problem I'm having with the extra padding issues on some browsers. I might make that happen on a later date. And yes, i agree.. it's hard to remember the domain name. If I think of something short and sweet and see that it's available... I'll change it to that. I spent no more than 10 seconds on thinking of a domain name. I figured most people would just boomark it, if they found it useful, since it's not an every day tool... but i get your point. It's always better if you can easily remember the domain name. Thanks for the feedback!
  - robbles 14y ago
    I actually don't think the domain name is that bad. I was more alluding to my own poor memory for the names of useful apps like this. It is pretty long for a domain name, but I think I'd remember it thanks to the similarity to http://lmgtfy.com/ http://lmgtfy.com/, commonly used by sarcastic people throughout the web. That was deliberate, right?
    - justindocanto 14y ago
      I would be lying if i said i didn't have LMGTFY in mind when I choose that domain name.
pedalpete 14y ago
I don't have an issue with this specifically (like apparently a few others do), but I'm wondering if you could walk me through a use-case. You mention tickets for Coachella. Ok, so I want to go, but I'm waiting for the tickets to go on sale. If I understand what you've built, I have to sit here watching the page refresh, which means I could just as easily press refresh. What I want to know is has the page changed! Is the action I wanted to take now available. How does your site really resolve that problem?
- justindocanto 14y ago
  One thing your reply reminded me of is I wanted to add a "Open in new window" button once you saw your desired result. So, possible use case is actually something somebody is using it right now for. My Bloody Valentine (MBV), a band who hasnt released an album in 21 years, is releasing their album tonight. They have a tab open with the website for MBV refreshing every 30 seconds or so.... and check back on that tab on occasion to see if it's live yet! Then once it's live... They'll know they can check it out. They could also, if they had enough monitor space, like i do, could just have it sitting in the corner of their desktop refreshing away until they see the page change to what they want. That removes all the clicking of refresh, which is why i called it "Let me refresh that for you". Yes, a script code do the solutions. Yes, you could sit their and click refresh over and over. But that's the point of technology, isn't it? To do things for us better than we could ourselves?
  - justindocanto 14y ago
    Another use case would be my website went down because it hit the front page of hacker news, and i need to see if it's come back up yet. (this didnt happen, im just giving a more coder oriented example since this is HN).
tzury 14y ago
I use this, when needed https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/auto-reload/ofojbjgaaddibdfpmmjeonahgbacejid https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/auto-reload/ofojbj...
Strshps1MoreTim 14y ago
Does this work with https sites? I'd like to stop online banking sites from logging me out every few minutes.
- justindocanto 14y ago
  I feel like a bad developer for not knowing this answer. Part of me wants to say yes because it's iframe traffic and independent of my website. Part of me wants to say no because i dont have a cert for this domain and it might somehow try to communicate via http because of that? or at least cause some flags in your browser? Either way I'm not sure I personally would trust a random guy (even though I'm pretty trustworthy) having my bank session hanging out in an iframe on his insecure personal project website.
freerobby 14y ago
It would be cool if you updated the page title to reflect that of the page in the iframe. That way if the page title changes I can see it immediately in the browser tab.
- justindocanto 14y ago
  Hmmmmmmmm. I like where you're going with this. Thanks!
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wikwocket 14y ago
This feature is built-in to Opera, in case anyone needs to use it regularly. Right-click any page, and select "Reload Every..." and choose an interval. Very handy.

51 points by justindocanto 14y ago

An unbelievable number of scripts implementing a browser built-in/extension, leading to this (Opera): Error https://play.google.com/store The website does not permit its content to be displayed in a frame. It must be displayed in a separate window. There are definitely better solutions.

justindocanto 14y ago
I agree there are better solutions but some people dont bother with plugins or scripts and/or just want a simple/quick web-based solution... and that is what this is aimed for. Also worth noting: I literally spent 2 hours max on it. I know a few people who could use it, myself included, coded it real quick... and then here we are.
artursapek 14y ago
How does one set their website to be iframe unfriendly? Intriguing.
- regecks 14y ago
  The Google Play store tells the browser what framing policy to use with X-Frame-Options (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/HTTP/X-Frame-Options https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/HTTP/X-Frame-Option...): x-frame-options:SAMEORIGIN However you could also check for: window.top == window
- abrkn 14y ago
  if (window.top !== window) { window.top.location = window.location } It's useful if your website is being iframed to display ads or exploited with cross window communication security holes (old school) http://i.imgur.com/ePFbiIT.png http://i.imgur.com/ePFbiIT.png
  - justindocanto 14y ago
    Would it be wrong of me to implement on the site to prevent that from happening? haha

lucb1e 14y ago

What's this for? If I ever need auto-refresh I'll just install an addon or extension. I already can't remember the URL for this. Or if I don't have an addon installed, I could just write a Javascript one-liner in the javascript console.

justindocanto 14y ago
Like I mentioned on the other comment, i agree that there are better solutions... but sometimes you just need a quick solution to use in the browser. I, myself, hate plugins & having to copy/paste script or code. I just want to click a bookmark, do what I need to do, and get out. That's why I made this.
- bpatrianakos 14y ago
  You know what'd be cool? If you made this into a plugin too! But then maybe you'd get a lot of "this already exists except better" comments. So maybe if you did that you could just let me know and everyone who's too cool can keep their useless negativity to needlessly criticize someone else.
jevinskie 14y ago
Isn't a bookmark just as convenient as an addon? Especially with an omnibar/awesomebar?

mrsoap23 14y ago

shitty ddos tool? that's the only use I see in this.

justindocanto 14y ago
That would be a very slow and very inaffective DDOS.
- deleted 14y ago
  [deleted]
  - Scriptor 14y ago
    Web browsers throttle the number of concurrent connections to a domain.
    - justindocanto 14y ago
      This is also true.
  - justindocanto 14y ago
    Anybody who could write the javascript to make that happen wouldn't need my website to make it happen. They could just enter most of what they would write directly into their browser bar.
- deleted 14y ago
  [deleted]
- Strshps1MoreTim 14y ago
  Right, on to registering letmeddosthatforyou.com :D
- abcd_f 14y ago
  It's still good for polluting traffic logs and skewing analytics.
14y ago

bpatrianakos 14y ago

Wow, please don't be discouraged by all the negativity. Sure there are plugins and scripts to do this but I, like you, don't like installing many plugins and I'd use this so rarely that I'd forget where the script was by the time I needed it. So having this bookmarked for those odd occasions when I'd use it is the perfect solution. Furthermore I'd say the current comments exemplify why many like myself no longer share or comment much on HN these days. Say what you will but the quality of discussions is devolving into a big who-can-act-more-jaded-and-know-it-all-ish contest. I'd be willing to bet there are just tons of people who'd want something like this. It's not about "oh there are better solutions" or "more elegant" solutions. It comes down to personal preference and tastes. For every person who's too cool for a browser based solutions there are ten more who'd rather have this than a plugin but don't say anything and just use it.

justindocanto 14y ago
First, THANK YOU! Second, yeah... some of the tone seems to be harsh but at the same time the comments do have some valid criticisms in them. Some people DO prefer scripts and hand-coded approaches... but like You & I, some people don't. So, I take it with a grain of salt. (I now appreciate that phrase a little more). Another demographic I kept in mind aside from coders... is people like my former roommate. She doesn't even know what javascript is and would want a way to just simply check if tickets for her favorite festival finally went on sale (ie. Coachella sold out in 5 minutes this year and she spent a lot of refreshing trying to check on it) so that's also a demographic I was aiming to help. With all that said... It's not like I'm releasing a product I spent hundreds of hours or hundreds of dollars on, so I'm not entirely crushed if nobody finds it useful. At the same time, it's nice to see somebody else DOES find it useful so I really appreciate the positive feedback. I hope it gets a few bookmarks and helps some people out. I know my old roommate already has it bookmarked. =)
- rooshdi 14y ago
  Most people don't even know what a browser is, let alone how to use plug-ins, so this approach should be better for 99% of people. Great job and great regular solution to a regular problem.

homakov 14y ago

looks like a startup

justindocanto 14y ago
that's probably because of the bootstrap template.
- abcd_f 14y ago
  I'm sure it was a sarcastic remark.

robbles 14y ago

Cool project! I also use a browser extension for this currently, but the obvious advantage to this is you can use it on any browser immediately as long as you remember the domain name. One suggestion - it would be a bit more useful if you hid the top bar while it's in "refreshing mode", and made the iframe take up the whole page. You could put a little icon in one of the top corners to reveal it again. I've used tools like this in the past to show analytics and news dashboards, and you typically want to keep as much screen real estate as possible.

justindocanto 14y ago
I was thinking about that (hiding the toolbar). That's a great idea of making a little icon that lets you return to it. It would also solve the problem I'm having with the extra padding issues on some browsers. I might make that happen on a later date. And yes, i agree.. it's hard to remember the domain name. If I think of something short and sweet and see that it's available... I'll change it to that. I spent no more than 10 seconds on thinking of a domain name. I figured most people would just boomark it, if they found it useful, since it's not an every day tool... but i get your point. It's always better if you can easily remember the domain name. Thanks for the feedback!
- robbles 14y ago
  I actually don't think the domain name is that bad. I was more alluding to my own poor memory for the names of useful apps like this. It is pretty long for a domain name, but I think I'd remember it thanks to the similarity to http://lmgtfy.com/ http://lmgtfy.com/, commonly used by sarcastic people throughout the web. That was deliberate, right?
  - justindocanto 14y ago
    I would be lying if i said i didn't have LMGTFY in mind when I choose that domain name.

pedalpete 14y ago

I don't have an issue with this specifically (like apparently a few others do), but I'm wondering if you could walk me through a use-case. You mention tickets for Coachella. Ok, so I want to go, but I'm waiting for the tickets to go on sale. If I understand what you've built, I have to sit here watching the page refresh, which means I could just as easily press refresh. What I want to know is has the page changed! Is the action I wanted to take now available. How does your site really resolve that problem?

justindocanto 14y ago
One thing your reply reminded me of is I wanted to add a "Open in new window" button once you saw your desired result. So, possible use case is actually something somebody is using it right now for. My Bloody Valentine (MBV), a band who hasnt released an album in 21 years, is releasing their album tonight. They have a tab open with the website for MBV refreshing every 30 seconds or so.... and check back on that tab on occasion to see if it's live yet! Then once it's live... They'll know they can check it out. They could also, if they had enough monitor space, like i do, could just have it sitting in the corner of their desktop refreshing away until they see the page change to what they want. That removes all the clicking of refresh, which is why i called it "Let me refresh that for you". Yes, a script code do the solutions. Yes, you could sit their and click refresh over and over. But that's the point of technology, isn't it? To do things for us better than we could ourselves?
- justindocanto 14y ago
  Another use case would be my website went down because it hit the front page of hacker news, and i need to see if it's come back up yet. (this didnt happen, im just giving a more coder oriented example since this is HN).

tzury 14y ago

I use this, when needed https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/auto-reload/ofojbjgaaddibdfpmmjeonahgbacejid https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/auto-reload/ofojbj...

Strshps1MoreTim 14y ago

Does this work with https sites? I'd like to stop online banking sites from logging me out every few minutes.

justindocanto 14y ago
I feel like a bad developer for not knowing this answer. Part of me wants to say yes because it's iframe traffic and independent of my website. Part of me wants to say no because i dont have a cert for this domain and it might somehow try to communicate via http because of that? or at least cause some flags in your browser? Either way I'm not sure I personally would trust a random guy (even though I'm pretty trustworthy) having my bank session hanging out in an iframe on his insecure personal project website.

freerobby 14y ago

It would be cool if you updated the page title to reflect that of the page in the iframe. That way if the page title changes I can see it immediately in the browser tab.

justindocanto 14y ago
Hmmmmmmmm. I like where you're going with this. Thanks!

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wikwocket 14y ago

This feature is built-in to Opera, in case anyone needs to use it regularly. Right-click any page, and select "Reload Every..." and choose an interval. Very handy.