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Anyone familiar with when hormones (steroids/HgH/precursors) started being scheduled as drugs in the US? Anyone bothered to ask why they are scheduled at all?

Anyone familiar with when hormones (steroids/HgH/precursors) started being scheduled as drugs in the US? Anyone bothered to ask why they are scheduled at all? We spend all of this time talking about elite competitive and, frequently, professional athletes using them, WHY??? Next thing you know, they're going to "schedule" websites... WHY?

CamperBob2 14y ago
Not that I believe that any drugs should be prohibited by law, but to answer your question, go over to YouTube and look at the videos of people setting off the "Lunk Alarm" at Planet Fitness gyms.
- atdrummond 14y ago
  You know there's plenty of people in the startup sphere who powerlift or crossfit who are perfectly well-adjusted, normal human beings right? And perhaps those lunk alarm videos are to protest a series of ads in which powerlifters and bodybuilders are portrayed as narcissistic morons. Having lifted in one of the most serious gyms in London for both groups, I can say this is most certainly not an accurate depiction.
  - CamperBob2 14y ago
    You know there's plenty of people in the startup sphere who powerlift or crossfit who are perfectly well-adjusted, normal human beings right? Yeah, and those aren't the people in the videos.
    - atdrummond 14y ago
      The first "lunk alarm" video I ever viewed was of a West Point graduate who got tagged for his deadlift hitting the ground "too loudly". For every obnoxious video you may find, there's tens of threads in various bodybuilding and strength forums of people who were asked to leave for doing very basic and non-disruptive barbell lifts. Even if every single lunk alarm video was as you described, it wouldn't be sufficient to paint a picture of either the bodybuilding or the strength athletics community.
      - CamperBob2 14y ago
        Even if every single lunk alarm video was as you described, it wouldn't be sufficient to paint a picture of either the bodybuilding or the strength athletics community. I missed the part where I tried to do that. Help me out? The videos I'm talking about are the ones where someone sets off the lunk alarm and is politely asked to take a chill pill, and responds by trying to tear the building off of its foundation.
- jhuckestein 14y ago
  You aren't allowed to grunt when lifting weights at Planet Fitness? Why? I thought it was well known that sharp breathing can increase strength for a short amount of time. Besides, sometimes when you're doing something really exhausting, you'll grunt involuntarily...
  - bitwize 14y ago
    Because Planet Fitness is not a gym intended for people who strength train, that's why. It's aimed squarely at the cardio and Zumba crowd who feel intimidated by people putting up significant weight.
bitwize 14y ago
Anabolic steroids are rife with side effects. In men they make the testes shrivel, they make you develop "bitch tits", they alter your mood and make you more aggressive. Women turn into smaller men with excessive steroid use; they develop lantern jaws, deep voices, and facial and body hair. I suppose the side effects could be managed, but do you think your average gorilla juicehead with "bigorexia" is going to be smart about controlling when and how much he takes? Fuck no. That is, I suppose, why they're illegal; they have costly side effects and cause a psychological dependency. I don't agree with banning them, but I can't say I approve of the way they're used by bodybuilders and competitors.
- Dylan16807 14y ago
  But is that a problem from using those chemicals at all, or a problem from having too much in the system?
- nwzpaperman 14y ago
  All of these are propaganda because they represent an edge use case. Fructose is horrible for the human body in quantities almost all Americans consume it in on a normal basis. Obesity, Insulin-Resistance, Impotency, Diabetes, Cardiac, Auto-Immune...the list goes on! This is not the way to approach this subject. Not all hormones act on the same receptors, not all hormones are synthetic and not all hormones aromatase.
  - elliott99 14y ago
    Obesity is more dangerous than (intelligent) steroid use

CamperBob2 14y ago

Not that I believe that any drugs should be prohibited by law, but to answer your question, go over to YouTube and look at the videos of people setting off the "Lunk Alarm" at Planet Fitness gyms.

atdrummond 14y ago
You know there's plenty of people in the startup sphere who powerlift or crossfit who are perfectly well-adjusted, normal human beings right? And perhaps those lunk alarm videos are to protest a series of ads in which powerlifters and bodybuilders are portrayed as narcissistic morons. Having lifted in one of the most serious gyms in London for both groups, I can say this is most certainly not an accurate depiction.
- CamperBob2 14y ago
  You know there's plenty of people in the startup sphere who powerlift or crossfit who are perfectly well-adjusted, normal human beings right? Yeah, and those aren't the people in the videos.
  - atdrummond 14y ago
    The first "lunk alarm" video I ever viewed was of a West Point graduate who got tagged for his deadlift hitting the ground "too loudly". For every obnoxious video you may find, there's tens of threads in various bodybuilding and strength forums of people who were asked to leave for doing very basic and non-disruptive barbell lifts. Even if every single lunk alarm video was as you described, it wouldn't be sufficient to paint a picture of either the bodybuilding or the strength athletics community.
    - CamperBob2 14y ago
      Even if every single lunk alarm video was as you described, it wouldn't be sufficient to paint a picture of either the bodybuilding or the strength athletics community. I missed the part where I tried to do that. Help me out? The videos I'm talking about are the ones where someone sets off the lunk alarm and is politely asked to take a chill pill, and responds by trying to tear the building off of its foundation.
jhuckestein 14y ago
You aren't allowed to grunt when lifting weights at Planet Fitness? Why? I thought it was well known that sharp breathing can increase strength for a short amount of time. Besides, sometimes when you're doing something really exhausting, you'll grunt involuntarily...
- bitwize 14y ago
  Because Planet Fitness is not a gym intended for people who strength train, that's why. It's aimed squarely at the cardio and Zumba crowd who feel intimidated by people putting up significant weight.

bitwize 14y ago

Anabolic steroids are rife with side effects. In men they make the testes shrivel, they make you develop "bitch tits", they alter your mood and make you more aggressive. Women turn into smaller men with excessive steroid use; they develop lantern jaws, deep voices, and facial and body hair. I suppose the side effects could be managed, but do you think your average gorilla juicehead with "bigorexia" is going to be smart about controlling when and how much he takes? Fuck no. That is, I suppose, why they're illegal; they have costly side effects and cause a psychological dependency. I don't agree with banning them, but I can't say I approve of the way they're used by bodybuilders and competitors.

Dylan16807 14y ago
But is that a problem from using those chemicals at all, or a problem from having too much in the system?
nwzpaperman 14y ago
All of these are propaganda because they represent an edge use case. Fructose is horrible for the human body in quantities almost all Americans consume it in on a normal basis. Obesity, Insulin-Resistance, Impotency, Diabetes, Cardiac, Auto-Immune...the list goes on! This is not the way to approach this subject. Not all hormones act on the same receptors, not all hormones are synthetic and not all hormones aromatase.
- elliott99 14y ago
  Obesity is more dangerous than (intelligent) steroid use