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I think you're just not using modern terminology: http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=rock+star&l= http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=rock+star&l=

brador 14y ago
Don't forget the http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=Ninja&l= http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=Ninja&l= http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=Guru&l= http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=Guru&l=
- skyebook 14y ago
  It would seem the guru market is crashing pretty hard after solid growth. Might be smart to do some job retraining to become a ninja
bsg75 14y ago
Or this: http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=rock+star%2C+engineer%2C+programmer&l= http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=rock+star%2C+engineer%2C+p... Compared to this: http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=rock+star%2C+engineer%2C+programmer&l=&relative=1 http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=rock+star%2C+engineer%2C+p...
thaumaturgy 14y ago
Cute, but that graph ranges from 0 to 0.04 percent -- it would be just a blip on the other graph, which ranges from 0 to 10 percent.
- joezydeco 14y ago
  FTFY: http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=engineer%2C+programming%2C+engineering%2C+rock+star&l=&relative=1 http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=engineer%2C+programming%2C...
  - thaumaturgy 14y ago
    I can't tell if you're being serious or not.
    - joezydeco 14y ago
      Totally serious. I changed the graph to "relative" to show growth of the term over the period.
      - crntaylor 14y ago
        http://xkcd.com/1102/ http://xkcd.com/1102/
      - thaumaturgy 14y ago
        Just in case the xkcd that crntaylor posted doesn't explain the situation well enough: Let's assume that there's 10,000 total job postings in your graph. If the "rock star" trend grew from just 1 posting to just 70 postings, that would represent a 7000% growth over the period, even though "rock star" would still represent just .007 of the total market. Growth graphs answer a very specific kind of question, and it's rarely the question that people mean to ask. Or, put another way: click the "Absolute" link next to "Scale", under "engineer, programming, engineering, rock star Job Trends".
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ChuckMcM 14y ago
Long past the salad days of the code monkey http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=code+monkey&l= http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=code+monkey&l= I think its an interesting way to drive traffic to the site. A variation on the "does this house from your neighborhood look like its worth a million bucks?" kinds of things I've seen Realtors do. Any serious analysis of the health of the STEM job market would have to be a bit more rigorous than a text match search.
eranation 14y ago
I think people are looking for candidates in alternative places, via Github, SE careers 2.0, coderwall, twitter, IRC, linkedin (direct connections), meetups, hacker news, and less via major job listing sites that indeed crawls. But it's a good question. Anyone feeling all of a sudden that it's easier to fill an engineer's position? EDIT: the absolute graph is described as "percentage of matching job postings" so it's absolute (total number of jobs), but still "relative" to "other" job titles. so theoretically, one explanation could be that the economy was recovering faster on the tech industry, but now other sectors are catching up... (just a thought, not sure I'm even convinced, but still worth checking). EDIT2: Seems that a clearly defined crash is not what most recruiters think about for 2013: http://media.dice.com/report/december-2012-special-edition-hiring-survey/ http://media.dice.com/report/december-2012-special-edition-h...
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brador 14y ago

Don't forget the http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=Ninja&l= http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=Ninja&l= http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=Guru&l= http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=Guru&l=

skyebook 14y ago
It would seem the guru market is crashing pretty hard after solid growth. Might be smart to do some job retraining to become a ninja

bsg75 14y ago

Or this: http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=rock+star%2C+engineer%2C+programmer&l= http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=rock+star%2C+engineer%2C+p... Compared to this: http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=rock+star%2C+engineer%2C+programmer&l=&relative=1 http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=rock+star%2C+engineer%2C+p...

thaumaturgy 14y ago

Cute, but that graph ranges from 0 to 0.04 percent -- it would be just a blip on the other graph, which ranges from 0 to 10 percent.

joezydeco 14y ago
FTFY: http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=engineer%2C+programming%2C+engineering%2C+rock+star&l=&relative=1 http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=engineer%2C+programming%2C...
- thaumaturgy 14y ago
  I can't tell if you're being serious or not.
  - joezydeco 14y ago
    Totally serious. I changed the graph to "relative" to show growth of the term over the period.
    - crntaylor 14y ago
      http://xkcd.com/1102/ http://xkcd.com/1102/
    - thaumaturgy 14y ago
      Just in case the xkcd that crntaylor posted doesn't explain the situation well enough: Let's assume that there's 10,000 total job postings in your graph. If the "rock star" trend grew from just 1 posting to just 70 postings, that would represent a 7000% growth over the period, even though "rock star" would still represent just .007 of the total market. Growth graphs answer a very specific kind of question, and it's rarely the question that people mean to ask. Or, put another way: click the "Absolute" link next to "Scale", under "engineer, programming, engineering, rock star Job Trends".
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ChuckMcM 14y ago

Long past the salad days of the code monkey http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=code+monkey&l= http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=code+monkey&l= I think its an interesting way to drive traffic to the site. A variation on the "does this house from your neighborhood look like its worth a million bucks?" kinds of things I've seen Realtors do. Any serious analysis of the health of the STEM job market would have to be a bit more rigorous than a text match search.

eranation 14y ago

I think people are looking for candidates in alternative places, via Github, SE careers 2.0, coderwall, twitter, IRC, linkedin (direct connections), meetups, hacker news, and less via major job listing sites that indeed crawls. But it's a good question. Anyone feeling all of a sudden that it's easier to fill an engineer's position? EDIT: the absolute graph is described as "percentage of matching job postings" so it's absolute (total number of jobs), but still "relative" to "other" job titles. so theoretically, one explanation could be that the economy was recovering faster on the tech industry, but now other sectors are catching up... (just a thought, not sure I'm even convinced, but still worth checking). EDIT2: Seems that a clearly defined crash is not what most recruiters think about for 2013: http://media.dice.com/report/december-2012-special-edition-hiring-survey/ http://media.dice.com/report/december-2012-special-edition-h...

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