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Smells like a shitstorm brewing. I'd advise him to walk away from this one quietly. There's a real risk of invoking the wrath of Reddit's Internet Hate Machine

by h2s 14y ago

Smells like a shitstorm brewing. I'd advise him to walk away from this one quietly. There's a real risk of invoking the wrath of Reddit's Internet Hate Machine on this issue. All it'll take is a few links to hit the front page and this could very suddenly become a lot more hassle than a trademark is worth.

biot 14y ago
Or license it to them for $1. The subreddit can then put a (R) sign next to it and say "Used under license from Chris Vizzini / gaymer.org". With some ingenuity, Vizzini could work with them to turn it into a community brand and make gaymer.org the central hub. Trying to fight the community rather than work with it is inconceivable!
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- uvdiv 14y ago
  Reddit will not react well to demands for free advertising.
- tech-no-logical 14y ago
  as someone who follows /r/gaymers I can say that this will _never_ be accepted by that community. the cease-and-desist mr. vizzini sent was seen as a sort of declaration of war, and mr. vizzini's posts on reddit only added to that feeling.
  - biot 14y ago
    A classic blunder. Never get involved in a trademark war with Reddit.
- fitzpasd 14y ago
  I believe they had an agreement similar to this already (without the charge). "...that the /gaymer sub-reddit had use of the word in exchange for a link to my site. Apparently that wasn’t enough for them because yesterday they filed a petition to have the trademark taken away." - Extract from a post by the trademarks owner. Full post - http://www.gaymer.org/index.html/_/site-news/help-save-gaymer-erase-the-hate-r72 http://www.gaymer.org/index.html/_/site-news/help-save-gayme...
  - tech-no-logical 14y ago
    I can't find anything about it now (mr. vizzini has deleted his reddit account, so it's hard to pinpoint some things), but I sincerely doubt there ever was such an agreement.
tallanvor 14y ago
Well, the first part of the storm was quite a while ago when he first sent the C&D and it did make it to the front page. At the time he was running his site on a shared server. Needless to say, plenty of people visited his site and it was very quickly suspended by his provider. He tried to call it a DDOS attack and as I recall he had moved it to one of the providers that specializes in hosting porn sites and such that tend to get attacked a lot. I'm guessing this has already cost him quite a bit of money, and if he ends up having to pay a lawyer to try and defend the trademark, it's going to get expensive very quickly. But some people would rather double down than accept that they might be better off letting something go.

by h2s 14y ago

biot 14y ago

Or license it to them for $1. The subreddit can then put a (R) sign next to it and say "Used under license from Chris Vizzini / gaymer.org". With some ingenuity, Vizzini could work with them to turn it into a community brand and make gaymer.org the central hub. Trying to fight the community rather than work with it is inconceivable!

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uvdiv 14y ago
Reddit will not react well to demands for free advertising.
tech-no-logical 14y ago
as someone who follows /r/gaymers I can say that this will _never_ be accepted by that community. the cease-and-desist mr. vizzini sent was seen as a sort of declaration of war, and mr. vizzini's posts on reddit only added to that feeling.
- biot 14y ago
  A classic blunder. Never get involved in a trademark war with Reddit.
fitzpasd 14y ago
I believe they had an agreement similar to this already (without the charge). "...that the /gaymer sub-reddit had use of the word in exchange for a link to my site. Apparently that wasn’t enough for them because yesterday they filed a petition to have the trademark taken away." - Extract from a post by the trademarks owner. Full post - http://www.gaymer.org/index.html/_/site-news/help-save-gaymer-erase-the-hate-r72 http://www.gaymer.org/index.html/_/site-news/help-save-gayme...
- tech-no-logical 14y ago
  I can't find anything about it now (mr. vizzini has deleted his reddit account, so it's hard to pinpoint some things), but I sincerely doubt there ever was such an agreement.

tallanvor 14y ago

Well, the first part of the storm was quite a while ago when he first sent the C&D and it did make it to the front page. At the time he was running his site on a shared server. Needless to say, plenty of people visited his site and it was very quickly suspended by his provider. He tried to call it a DDOS attack and as I recall he had moved it to one of the providers that specializes in hosting porn sites and such that tend to get attacked a lot. I'm guessing this has already cost him quite a bit of money, and if he ends up having to pay a lawyer to try and defend the trademark, it's going to get expensive very quickly. But some people would rather double down than accept that they might be better off letting something go.