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> Regarding the actual program, I don't write shell > utilities in JavaScript so I can't say whether it's a > good or a bad implementation. It's just not my

> Regarding the actual program, I don't write shell > utilities in JavaScript so I can't say whether it's a > good or a bad implementation. It's just not my space. According to some other posts here, the quoted mockers are Ruby programmers. I believe the Twitter posts are about the concept of writing sed in Node-Javascript, not necessarily the implementation. As I understand it there's something of a rivalry between the Ruby and Node communities, and the Ruby community is known to be tolerant of boorish behavior.

rachelbythebay 14y ago
Hum. It reminds me of performance art, to be honest.
- ddunkin 14y ago
  It does, any art really. If the software were the brushes, no piece of software is right for every artist. Should we trash people for making 'yet another social network' or 'yet another online map database'? This is even a smaller scale project and barely worth the effort to complain about. Programming can be a much more creative exercise, and sometimes people forget that. I don't always do things to be useful, I do them to be fun and educational.
nikatwork 14y ago
So there is some truth to the stereotype of the angry asshole Rubyist? I thought the community had moved on since those days. I've been tossing up whether to learn Ruby or Clojure next, and this kind of crap is a real turn-off for Ruby.
- madhadron 14y ago
  Do Clojure. Ruby suffers from a number of serious basic errors in its design. I'm in the middle of the long task of writing a clear, substantive criticism of them, but why they were bad choices is quite subtle, though it has large implications. That and Ruby has a culture of little or no documentation, even of the standard library, no attempt at consistency in APIs, even for something as basic as different kinds of network socket, and a community with rather more noise and rather less experience than makes me comfortable.
- mylittlepony 14y ago
  Having tried Ruby for a year, I have experimented this myself. With a strong OOP background, I can assert that it's not even an elite that enjoys ridiculing noobs. It reminded me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX3iRjKj7C0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX3iRjKj7C0 Also, just look at the top comment in that video. The irony.
- 0xDECAFFEE 14y ago
  Ruby is an awesome language. The community, particularly the community that revolves around rails, and the "uncle craftsmanship" baloney, leaves many wondering WTF. I can't stress enough how nice it is to use the ruby language to code and solve problems.
- eropple 14y ago
  I'm not a regular user of either, but I've much more enjoyed my time playing with Clojure and lurking in the community. For the most part they seem like solid people.
- petercooper 14y ago
  As much as the "truth" of the stereotype of the jock PHP developer or smelly, fat, bearded C developer. That is to say, those people surely exist within each world but it's a shame when others lack the peripheral vision to see the true, bigger picture without falling into stereotyping.
- danneu 14y ago
  That's what you're taking from this? Really? As someone remarked elsewhere in these comments: > There is no "open source hivemind" so please don't > disparage the millions of open source coders who > will never make the frontpage of HN by lumping the > entire conglomerate into one community.
grannyg00se 14y ago
Oh is that what it is? The tweets weren't specific enough. Basically a point and laugh response but I didn't get it. I looked at the code briefly and it certainly seemed odd that node/javascript was being used as a command line tool to do something that can already be done with other tools, but this person created this to make their life easier. Created. Had a problem and wrote working code to solve their problem. Then shared it. Not really something to point at in mockery.

rachelbythebay 14y ago

Hum. It reminds me of performance art, to be honest.

ddunkin 14y ago
It does, any art really. If the software were the brushes, no piece of software is right for every artist. Should we trash people for making 'yet another social network' or 'yet another online map database'? This is even a smaller scale project and barely worth the effort to complain about. Programming can be a much more creative exercise, and sometimes people forget that. I don't always do things to be useful, I do them to be fun and educational.

nikatwork 14y ago

So there is some truth to the stereotype of the angry asshole Rubyist? I thought the community had moved on since those days. I've been tossing up whether to learn Ruby or Clojure next, and this kind of crap is a real turn-off for Ruby.

madhadron 14y ago
Do Clojure. Ruby suffers from a number of serious basic errors in its design. I'm in the middle of the long task of writing a clear, substantive criticism of them, but why they were bad choices is quite subtle, though it has large implications. That and Ruby has a culture of little or no documentation, even of the standard library, no attempt at consistency in APIs, even for something as basic as different kinds of network socket, and a community with rather more noise and rather less experience than makes me comfortable.
mylittlepony 14y ago
Having tried Ruby for a year, I have experimented this myself. With a strong OOP background, I can assert that it's not even an elite that enjoys ridiculing noobs. It reminded me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX3iRjKj7C0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX3iRjKj7C0 Also, just look at the top comment in that video. The irony.
0xDECAFFEE 14y ago
Ruby is an awesome language. The community, particularly the community that revolves around rails, and the "uncle craftsmanship" baloney, leaves many wondering WTF. I can't stress enough how nice it is to use the ruby language to code and solve problems.
eropple 14y ago
I'm not a regular user of either, but I've much more enjoyed my time playing with Clojure and lurking in the community. For the most part they seem like solid people.
petercooper 14y ago
As much as the "truth" of the stereotype of the jock PHP developer or smelly, fat, bearded C developer. That is to say, those people surely exist within each world but it's a shame when others lack the peripheral vision to see the true, bigger picture without falling into stereotyping.
danneu 14y ago
That's what you're taking from this? Really? As someone remarked elsewhere in these comments: > There is no "open source hivemind" so please don't > disparage the millions of open source coders who > will never make the frontpage of HN by lumping the > entire conglomerate into one community.

grannyg00se 14y ago

Oh is that what it is? The tweets weren't specific enough. Basically a point and laugh response but I didn't get it. I looked at the code briefly and it certainly seemed odd that node/javascript was being used as a command line tool to do something that can already be done with other tools, but this person created this to make their life easier. Created. Had a problem and wrote working code to solve their problem. Then shared it. Not really something to point at in mockery.