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What speed does this actually mean? 100/100?

wmf 14y ago
100 Mbps is pretty much the minimum speed for fiber; gigabit is not much more expensive. ISPs may offer lower-speed plans, of course.
- te_chris 14y ago
  Tell that to New Zealand then, we're in the process of doing (what appears like a bit of a mess of) a fibre rollout here. All the plans are 30/10 with the "premium ones" being 100/50.
  - GauntletWizard 14y ago
    That's the internet plan, not the physicality of the link; I have an (absolutely awesome for the US, still shit in my opinion) 35/10 plan from Frontier in the suburbs of Seattle, but the physical link is 100M, they throttle it at the switch.
- justincormack 14y ago
  In the UK most fibre is to the street with ADSL over copy for the last bit. I get 40/20 from that. I presume the street gets gigabit.
tomedme 14y ago
It means it feels ridiculously fast for websites inside the GFW. speedtest.net results just run now (I'm in Shanghai, it's saturday morning, no VPN): Shanghai-based server: ping 27ms, down 15.33Mbps, up 0.54Mbps Beijing-based server: ping 31ms, down 17.49Mbps, up 0.55Mbps London (UK)-based server: ping 270ms, down 6.17Mbps, up 0.56Mbps I live in an older compound, my building has 12 floors, most of the others have 6, so this is not a new compound by any means, but we already have fiber, they're rolling it out gradually throughout the city.
- w1ntermute 14y ago
  > down 15.33Mbps, up 0.54Mbps That doesn't seem that fast to me. I get better speeds out in the Midwest in America, where internet is supposed to be super shitty. Particularly, I was expecting a symmetric connection.
  - seanmcdirmid 14y ago
    This is actually pretty good for inside the GFW; keep in mind links are typically overloaded to the resource you are accessing, its not just about your final leg speed. So fiber really only fixes one part of the connection, Amdahl's law still applies. Oddly enough, I actually sometimes find sites outside the GFW are a bit faster compared to some domestic Chinese sites inside the GFW. The internal Chinese internet just has lots of problems that they haven't worked through yet.
    - tomedme 14y ago
      Correct. I added the day and time for reference, in the evenings during the week, the internet speed can be rated as "lol" in both directions. w1ntermute, I'm fully aware those speeds are most definitely not fast, but relatively speaking it's usually worse than that. (I love going to South Korea, I land at Incheon, there's free WiFi in the coach to the city, and the internet is FAST)
    - w1ntermute 14y ago
      > keep in mind links are typically overloaded to the resource you are accessing, its not just about your final leg speed. So fiber really only fixes one part of the connection, Amdahl's law still applies. Is the last mile not the bottleneck in China? It is in America, AFAIK.
      - seanmcdirmid 14y ago
        Not when you are watching "Gangnam Style" on Youku. Anything video will be blocked in America anyways, so its Chinese sites only for that. It is true that I can't really do Apple to Apple comparisons.
CitizenKane 14y ago
There are different service levels. It goes up to 100mpbs/100mbps symmetrical connection. In my case living in Nanjing I pay for a 50mbps/50mbps connection to save a little money. Inside of the firewall it's basically an instant load for everything. Foreign sites are definitely slower but still feel pretty speedy overall. Without the firewall I imagine the speeds would be really incredible.

wmf 14y ago

100 Mbps is pretty much the minimum speed for fiber; gigabit is not much more expensive. ISPs may offer lower-speed plans, of course.

te_chris 14y ago
Tell that to New Zealand then, we're in the process of doing (what appears like a bit of a mess of) a fibre rollout here. All the plans are 30/10 with the "premium ones" being 100/50.
- GauntletWizard 14y ago
  That's the internet plan, not the physicality of the link; I have an (absolutely awesome for the US, still shit in my opinion) 35/10 plan from Frontier in the suburbs of Seattle, but the physical link is 100M, they throttle it at the switch.
justincormack 14y ago
In the UK most fibre is to the street with ADSL over copy for the last bit. I get 40/20 from that. I presume the street gets gigabit.

tomedme 14y ago

It means it feels ridiculously fast for websites inside the GFW. speedtest.net results just run now (I'm in Shanghai, it's saturday morning, no VPN): Shanghai-based server: ping 27ms, down 15.33Mbps, up 0.54Mbps Beijing-based server: ping 31ms, down 17.49Mbps, up 0.55Mbps London (UK)-based server: ping 270ms, down 6.17Mbps, up 0.56Mbps I live in an older compound, my building has 12 floors, most of the others have 6, so this is not a new compound by any means, but we already have fiber, they're rolling it out gradually throughout the city.

w1ntermute 14y ago
> down 15.33Mbps, up 0.54Mbps That doesn't seem that fast to me. I get better speeds out in the Midwest in America, where internet is supposed to be super shitty. Particularly, I was expecting a symmetric connection.
- seanmcdirmid 14y ago
  This is actually pretty good for inside the GFW; keep in mind links are typically overloaded to the resource you are accessing, its not just about your final leg speed. So fiber really only fixes one part of the connection, Amdahl's law still applies. Oddly enough, I actually sometimes find sites outside the GFW are a bit faster compared to some domestic Chinese sites inside the GFW. The internal Chinese internet just has lots of problems that they haven't worked through yet.
  - tomedme 14y ago
    Correct. I added the day and time for reference, in the evenings during the week, the internet speed can be rated as "lol" in both directions. w1ntermute, I'm fully aware those speeds are most definitely not fast, but relatively speaking it's usually worse than that. (I love going to South Korea, I land at Incheon, there's free WiFi in the coach to the city, and the internet is FAST)
  - w1ntermute 14y ago
    > keep in mind links are typically overloaded to the resource you are accessing, its not just about your final leg speed. So fiber really only fixes one part of the connection, Amdahl's law still applies. Is the last mile not the bottleneck in China? It is in America, AFAIK.
    - seanmcdirmid 14y ago
      Not when you are watching "Gangnam Style" on Youku. Anything video will be blocked in America anyways, so its Chinese sites only for that. It is true that I can't really do Apple to Apple comparisons.

CitizenKane 14y ago

There are different service levels. It goes up to 100mpbs/100mbps symmetrical connection. In my case living in Nanjing I pay for a 50mbps/50mbps connection to save a little money. Inside of the firewall it's basically an instant load for everything. Foreign sites are definitely slower but still feel pretty speedy overall. Without the firewall I imagine the speeds would be really incredible.