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Since the main thread here is a gripe about compilation speed, here's something more constructive. I've been working with 2.10 for a few months now, and there's

by necubi 14y ago

Since the main thread here is a gripe about compilation speed, here's something more constructive. I've been working with 2.10 for a few months now, and there's a lot that's really exciting. The biggest addition is macro support, which allows compile-time metaprogramming and code generation. This brings the ability to write very dynamic-looking code that is in fact completely type-safe. These capabilities have been used to great effect by Slick (a new database library based on ScalaQuery), ScalaMock, and others. Right now the tooling support for writing macros is a bit weak, but I expect it to improve now that 2.10 has been released. There's a lot else to like here, with built-in futures and promises from Akka, string interpolation, reflection, and a bunch of speed improvements and bug fixes. It's great work by the Scala team, and an exciting start to a new year!

bad_user 14y ago
You forgot the link to Slick [0]. It's worth mentioning that Slick is a lot like .NET's LINQ to SQL. [0] http://slick.typesafe.com/ http://slick.typesafe.com/
- CookWithMe 14y ago
  I recently used Slick a bit in combination with Play. On one hand I was really impressed by its capabilities, on the other hand the documentation is unfortunately lacking... I think Slick has great potential and hope that typesafe brings the documentation onto a quality level similar to Play. If you want to try it out today and get stuck, after some time I found it quicker to look at their test cases first before googling, much more info there than in the docu and example projects.
  - bad_user 14y ago
    The project is new, being at RC1 for the first stable release and relies heavily on Scala 2.10, so it is understandable that it lacks documentation. On the other hand, Slick is the only alternative to LINQ that I know of. All in all, exciting times ahead.
    - virtualwhys 14y ago
      The documentation has never been good, Zeiger is a genius who clearly has little interest in revealing the inner workings of his mind; instead, he let's you figure it out, which is a mixed blessing -- ScalaQuery source code was basically my intro to Scala
    - kclay 14y ago
      How about Squeryl [0], I used it for my first Scala project with Play! and for the most part it was a delight. [0]http://squeryl.org/ http://squeryl.org/
thebluesky 14y ago
I'm really looking forward to using 2.10 now that it's (finally!) final. Over the last year it's been really interesting to see Scala popping up all over the place. One of the interesting data points is that downloads of the Scala plugin for IntelliJ have crossed the 350,000 mark. I have yet to encounter anyone who wants to go back to Java after having used Scala for a project. For many of us it's the first language that's a viable successor to Java.
- bad_user 14y ago
  IntelliJ IDEA is awesome for working with Scala and it's free too - the Scala plugin works with the community edition. Personally I got the "doomsday" offer which had a huge discount for IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate. And in my opinion, this IDE is worth every penny and I'm sad that I've stuck with Eclipse when I was working on Java projects.
  - pswenson 14y ago
    why would you be stuck on eclipse when working on java?
    - barik 14y ago
      Side note: Very likely, he's not. I think you're just being overly pedantic on verb tenses. Change "I've" to "I'd" if that makes it easier to read. To be back on topic, I had a very similar experience after using Eclipse for several years. A co-worker introduced me to IntelliJ in 2005, and I have not regretted the decision since. IntelliJ is a fantastic IDE, particularly for Java.
      - pswenson 14y ago
        Not pedantic, just misunderstood. Yep IJ is awesome. I tried eclipse again a couple years ago and there is no contest
  - arielweisberg 14y ago
    I got in on the same offer. I found that it had feature parity with Eclipse for the most part, but there was enough missing that I went back to Eclipse. Time to donate!

by necubi 14y ago

bad_user 14y ago

You forgot the link to Slick [0]. It's worth mentioning that Slick is a lot like .NET's LINQ to SQL. [0] http://slick.typesafe.com/ http://slick.typesafe.com/

CookWithMe 14y ago
I recently used Slick a bit in combination with Play. On one hand I was really impressed by its capabilities, on the other hand the documentation is unfortunately lacking... I think Slick has great potential and hope that typesafe brings the documentation onto a quality level similar to Play. If you want to try it out today and get stuck, after some time I found it quicker to look at their test cases first before googling, much more info there than in the docu and example projects.
- bad_user 14y ago
  The project is new, being at RC1 for the first stable release and relies heavily on Scala 2.10, so it is understandable that it lacks documentation. On the other hand, Slick is the only alternative to LINQ that I know of. All in all, exciting times ahead.
  - virtualwhys 14y ago
    The documentation has never been good, Zeiger is a genius who clearly has little interest in revealing the inner workings of his mind; instead, he let's you figure it out, which is a mixed blessing -- ScalaQuery source code was basically my intro to Scala
  - kclay 14y ago
    How about Squeryl [0], I used it for my first Scala project with Play! and for the most part it was a delight. [0]http://squeryl.org/ http://squeryl.org/

thebluesky 14y ago

I'm really looking forward to using 2.10 now that it's (finally!) final. Over the last year it's been really interesting to see Scala popping up all over the place. One of the interesting data points is that downloads of the Scala plugin for IntelliJ have crossed the 350,000 mark. I have yet to encounter anyone who wants to go back to Java after having used Scala for a project. For many of us it's the first language that's a viable successor to Java.

bad_user 14y ago
IntelliJ IDEA is awesome for working with Scala and it's free too - the Scala plugin works with the community edition. Personally I got the "doomsday" offer which had a huge discount for IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate. And in my opinion, this IDE is worth every penny and I'm sad that I've stuck with Eclipse when I was working on Java projects.
- pswenson 14y ago
  why would you be stuck on eclipse when working on java?
  - barik 14y ago
    Side note: Very likely, he's not. I think you're just being overly pedantic on verb tenses. Change "I've" to "I'd" if that makes it easier to read. To be back on topic, I had a very similar experience after using Eclipse for several years. A co-worker introduced me to IntelliJ in 2005, and I have not regretted the decision since. IntelliJ is a fantastic IDE, particularly for Java.
    - pswenson 14y ago
      Not pedantic, just misunderstood. Yep IJ is awesome. I tried eclipse again a couple years ago and there is no contest
- arielweisberg 14y ago
  I got in on the same offer. I found that it had feature parity with Eclipse for the most part, but there was enough missing that I went back to Eclipse. Time to donate!