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> My point was that you can have very well designed and thoughted apps with LLMs. If that were the case here, then a user of the app probably would not come aw

> My point was that you can have very well designed and thoughted apps with LLMs. If that were the case here, then a user of the app probably would not come away with the impression that it was a "very much LLM-aided app." You're talking about how LLMs can be used in such a way that they help production of an app but remain invisible to the end user. But the beginning of this thread was someone using the app and coming away with the impression that it was heavily LLM influenced, which suggests that it was not done thoughtfully and did not remain invisible to the user.

aogaili 5d ago
I get it, and frankly I don't know about this app. But the parent comment positioned itself against all "LLM-aided apps", the author didn't say a slop or poorly coded. And even if it looks like LLM coded, we still can't tell about the level of thought that went into it. Developers had many poorly coded UIs and yet the apps functioned well and served it's purpose. So the entire chain of reasoning is a form stereotype forming. Looking at this specific app, I can see that the author thought about the marketing/business and functionality, more than other alternatives, maybe because they had more mental bandwdith to do so.
- n4r9 5d ago
  To be fair, I personally only said that I'd like a label that indicates whether an app has "had thought put into it". That could involve e.g. another human reviewing the code and architecture and giving it a stamp.
  - aogaili 5d ago
    You are right - my apologies. It could be a good idea given that we will end up with so many doubts and comments like this.
    - clear0250 5d ago
      This comment and some of your other ones are giving off AI smells...
      - aogaili 5d ago
        I hand written each one of them, I think they are full of typos and grammatical errors as well since English is not my first language. I assume you are saying that because I apologized. I apologize for sounding like AI, I assure you it was hand written and I put thoughts into those comments.
- stetrain 5d ago
  I don’t see how this comment is “against all LLM-aided apps.” > But... I get a "buy merch" popup the moment I open the page, and there seems to be a pro option for what seems to be a very much LLM-aided app? ...IDK, rubs off a bit wrong IMO. Just my personal opinion.” Again, if the user of the app comes away with the impression that the app “seems to be a very much LLM-aided” then the LLM usage has affected the end product.
  - aogaili 5d ago
    I think people are judging mainly the UI of the app. This is closed code app so they don't know, but they are judging by patterns in the UI and/or wording of documentation. And I think it is mainly tech or artists or whoever else is impacted by the AI usage. That is not say there are really mindlessly produced apps out there. But the comment made it sound that anything LLM-aided is negative.

aogaili 5d ago

I get it, and frankly I don't know about this app. But the parent comment positioned itself against all "LLM-aided apps", the author didn't say a slop or poorly coded. And even if it looks like LLM coded, we still can't tell about the level of thought that went into it. Developers had many poorly coded UIs and yet the apps functioned well and served it's purpose. So the entire chain of reasoning is a form stereotype forming. Looking at this specific app, I can see that the author thought about the marketing/business and functionality, more than other alternatives, maybe because they had more mental bandwdith to do so.

n4r9 5d ago
To be fair, I personally only said that I'd like a label that indicates whether an app has "had thought put into it". That could involve e.g. another human reviewing the code and architecture and giving it a stamp.
- aogaili 5d ago
  You are right - my apologies. It could be a good idea given that we will end up with so many doubts and comments like this.
  - clear0250 5d ago
    This comment and some of your other ones are giving off AI smells...
    - aogaili 5d ago
      I hand written each one of them, I think they are full of typos and grammatical errors as well since English is not my first language. I assume you are saying that because I apologized. I apologize for sounding like AI, I assure you it was hand written and I put thoughts into those comments.
stetrain 5d ago
I don’t see how this comment is “against all LLM-aided apps.” > But... I get a "buy merch" popup the moment I open the page, and there seems to be a pro option for what seems to be a very much LLM-aided app? ...IDK, rubs off a bit wrong IMO. Just my personal opinion.” Again, if the user of the app comes away with the impression that the app “seems to be a very much LLM-aided” then the LLM usage has affected the end product.
- aogaili 5d ago
  I think people are judging mainly the UI of the app. This is closed code app so they don't know, but they are judging by patterns in the UI and/or wording of documentation. And I think it is mainly tech or artists or whoever else is impacted by the AI usage. That is not say there are really mindlessly produced apps out there. But the comment made it sound that anything LLM-aided is negative.