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by lopatin 13d ago

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imtringued 13d ago
You forgot to add the necessary context to make your comment less abrasive: The draw the rest of the owl meme is not meant to be insightful at all. This makes it sound like you're trying to tear the author down. You are comparing them on the basis of doing all the work in the last step, which is a valid way of looking at it but the author already assumed that he has the necessary skills to complete the task and he should slow down before doing the work. Your post as is kind of misses the point of both the post and the meme without further context.
- jeef_berky 13d ago
  I agree with your feeling that the comment we've replied to could use a bit more context... or something. But I felt like I got the point. Looking at this thread, it mostly just lead me to think about how things can be super insightful for one person, and totally meaningless to the next.
  - gregates 13d ago
    Alternatively, things that are not insightful can feel insightful to some people, because they triggered some different, tangentially related thoughts than what was being communicated — i.e., the reader substituted their own insight for the author's. Or because the author has enough authority that they are granted a presumption of insightfulness by default, even (or perhaps especially) when the concrete insight that's allegedly being communicated remains unclear.
jeef_berky 13d ago
For myself, it was useful to write down the general approach I took when solving problems. But it is useful because it was learning about myself, not because it is the same approach as the author here, and not because that is some magical best approach. I experienced maybe a minute of being "whelmed" or +1 out of 10 over baseline because I liked reading someone else that uses this approach. For someone who thinks nothing like me, I would imagine it feeling very similar to "draw the rest of the owl." I don't think everyone needs to think the same way. And if we did want everyone to think a certain way, well, the author's style would not convince many.

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by lopatin 13d ago

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You forgot to add the necessary context to make your comment less abrasive: The draw the rest of the owl meme is not meant to be insightful at all. This makes it sound like you're trying to tear the author down. You are comparing them on the basis of doing all the work in the last step, which is a valid way of looking at it but the author already assumed that he has the necessary skills to complete the task and he should slow down before doing the work. Your post as is kind of misses the point of both the post and the meme without further context.

jeef_berky 13d ago
I agree with your feeling that the comment we've replied to could use a bit more context... or something. But I felt like I got the point. Looking at this thread, it mostly just lead me to think about how things can be super insightful for one person, and totally meaningless to the next.
- gregates 13d ago
  Alternatively, things that are not insightful can feel insightful to some people, because they triggered some different, tangentially related thoughts than what was being communicated — i.e., the reader substituted their own insight for the author's. Or because the author has enough authority that they are granted a presumption of insightfulness by default, even (or perhaps especially) when the concrete insight that's allegedly being communicated remains unclear.

jeef_berky 13d ago

For myself, it was useful to write down the general approach I took when solving problems. But it is useful because it was learning about myself, not because it is the same approach as the author here, and not because that is some magical best approach. I experienced maybe a minute of being "whelmed" or +1 out of 10 over baseline because I liked reading someone else that uses this approach. For someone who thinks nothing like me, I would imagine it feeling very similar to "draw the rest of the owl." I don't think everyone needs to think the same way. And if we did want everyone to think a certain way, well, the author's style would not convince many.