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The most irritating way in which W is odd is that it requires three syllables to name, while all the other English letters are monosyllabic. This leads to many
by AnodicElegy 6d ago
The most irritating way in which W is odd is that it requires three syllables to name, while all the other English letters are monosyllabic. This leads to many unfortunate situations where it takes substantially longer to say the acronym of a title than to say the title itself. Take for example, the World Wildlife Fund, which contains four syllables (or maybe five, depending how you pronounce "wild") and whose acronym contains seven. Given how many acronyms contain the word "World" in particular, this is clearly a massive inefficiency in the way we go about our lives. I've started a campaign to rename it something reasonable like "woo" or "woe", but neither Reuters nor the AP seem particularly interested.
- andsoitis 6d ago> I've started a campaign to rename it something reasonable like "woo" or "woe", but neither Reuters nor the AP seem particularly interested. I support your campaign. Other candidates: wa, weh, wu
- MrBuddyCasino 6d agoIn German its „weh“. But then V is „phau“, so its not as easy to confuse as in English.
- BoorishBears 6d agoWhy not simple, W: making a mouth shape as-if to say "What", then sharply exhale a puff of air instead
- jfengel 6d agoIn German it's called "vay". That's brief, and gets a few million people on your side.
- anamexis 6d agoCounterpoint: Ypsilon.
- k__ 6d agoFair, but Y isn't used much in German.
- Ylpertnodi 5d agoGermany.
- anon_cow1111 6d agoStupid, but related amusing nostalgia: By default. Unreal Tournament 2003/4 used to have in-game text chat that would use the "Microsoft Sam" voice synthesizer to read player messages aloud to everyone in the room... MS Sam took so long to pronounce the letter "W /DoubleYou" that you could just go into a server and drop a 512 character "W-bomb" and leave. Everyone in the room would have to listen to several minutes of dubbayou's assuming they never turned off the voice feature. (I miss those days of genuinely annoying but still apolitical random trolling)
- protocolture 5d agoThe gentleman who hosted the LAN party, whose mother had her bedroom right above his PC, with speakers blaring, as we got Microsoft Sam to spell out countless insults and incredulous things while he complained "Cmon guys" never did host again.
- nkrisc 6d agoOr, of course, WWW (world-wide web) where each word of the acronym is itself a single syllable. This means the acronym is 6 syllables longer if you were speaking it.
- bluebarbet 6d agoIndeed. This has to rank as one of the worst branding mistakes in history. All TBL had to do was call the subdomain "web" but instead he went for the infuriatingly fussy and tongue-tying "www".
- b112 6d agoIt was a different time. Everything from movies to stories at the bus stop were longer, more relaxed, less rushed. www probably didn't seem like a big deal at the time. Alternates seem... bad. Instead of 'double u', you could say 'sexta-u', but that could lead to a slap in the face. Possibly the same for sextuple-u, which sounds like someone's going to tackle you then do some strange all over you. If it wasn't for U and V switching in the middle ages, it'd be like the french language which says 'double v', and then 'sexta-v' could be OK.
- JadeNB 6d ago> It was a different time. Everything from movies to stories at the bus stop were longer, more relaxed, less rushed. www probably didn't seem like a big deal at the time. Hmm, and yet, though of a different era, we got `cp`, `ls, `mv`, `rm` ....
- PlunderBunny 5d agoIt’s (slightly) easier to type www than web.
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- ddingus 6d agoA radio talk show host I really enjoyed came up with this: .'triple double ya site dot gom." You can say that fast and people get it.
- pavlov 6d agoIt’s commonly called “dub” when brevity is called for, as in “dub dub dub” = www. Or is this just a tech industry idiom that I’ve been taking for granted…
- roryirvine 6d agoThough it does make you sound like a boy scout... Wuh works better, imho, though it does tend to degrade into "wuh'uh'uh" when said quickly. The BBC tried very hard in 1994/5 to persuade people to pronounce "http://www." as "hit web" - thankfully, that failed to gain any traction whatsoever.
- fdcjjrvdcg 6d agoI don’t know… I always had a soft spot for “hit web”. Makes it sound so cool. It’s dumb but I quite like it :D
- ButlerianJihad 6d agoWe proposed “dub-three” in accord with a guy who was fighting the Clipper Chip
- williamdclt 5d agowell, never heard that! And hate it, as "dub" does not contain (let alone start with) the sound it refers to
- Izkata 5d agoIt's the first part of its name, "double-u". H doesn't contain its sound either, and G has only one of the two sounds it makes (and it's not the one unique to it).
- ortusdux 6d agoIt's also the only letter that is not used in its own pronunciation. It really breaks the cadence of alphabet books!
- cwnyth 6d agoTechnically, one of the sounds of W is heard at the end of its name, and is seen more clearly in its homophone "yew" (rhymes with ew, shrew, mew, chew, few, Drew, etc.).
- notpushkin 5d agoWikipedia lists ‘C’ as “cee”, but that’s cheating IMO. It’s clearly “see”! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_alphabet#Letter_names https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_alphabet#Letter_names
- yongjik 6d agoThe name for "Y" starts with a "w" sound, so why not make it symmetric: let's call "Y" why and "W" yay.
- fdcjjrvdcg 6d agoOk I hate this and I love this. Yay indeed!
- Sharlin 6d agoNot to mention "www", which when pronounced is actually three times longer than its expansion.
- sheept 6d agoFor a native speaker in casual speech, it'll only be at most a bit slower than its expansion because English is stress-timed
- layer8 6d agoYou could shorten it to “sextuple u”.
- b112 6d agoGreat minds think alike, but my concern was that sextuple-u sounds like you're about to tackle someone and do something.
- chuckadams 5d agoPlus it's still cumbersome to say. But I guess "sex-u" is right out.
- dyzone 6d agoW is "double u"
- Razengan 6d agoAnd that's why it's my favorite letter :)
- chrisweekly 6d agoYet its written shape is a double-V.
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- thaumasiotes 5d agoThat's easy to explain; U and V are the same letter.
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- chrisweekly 5d agoUntrue. Vowel.
- notpushkin 5d agoUoɰel?
- thaumasiotes 5d agoTry looking into the history. The explanation I gave is correct.
- lynndotpy 6d agoThere is precedent among English speakers for "dub" or "dubya". George W. Bush is something referred to as "dubya", for the "W" part. And modern slang "W" or "dubs" as shorthand for "win". "Dubya" fits in the ABC song just as well as double-you, while "dubs" can fit as "dubs and X, Y and Z". You might have better luck with NPR, they assure me that they read every email.
- ButlerianJihad 6d agoThe erstwhile World Wide Wrestling Federation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWF_trademark_dispute https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WWF_trademark_dispute
- cwnyth 6d agoShould be "wee", and rhymes with B, C, D, G, P, T, V, and (in some dialects) Z.
- Ylpertnodi 5d agoTrying to sing the alphabet song with a 'wee' is hard. Weeeeeeeee, x, y, and I hate British English for teaching me 'zed'.
- adrian_b 5d ago"Whiskey", in the International Radiotelephony Spelling Alphabet (NATO phonetic alphabet), is easier to pronounce than "double u".
- wkjagt 5d agoYou would feel right at home in the way Dutch (and other Germanic languages) name W with just one syllable. V is "vay", W is "way". Except the W (in Dutch at least) sounds closer to a V, just less fricative. Same mouth shape, with the bottom teeth against the upper lip.
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