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Sorry but are you trying to subtly imply that if I think LLMs are intelligent, I’m probably actually just a bit stupid? Because I would be more than happy to g

Sorry but are you trying to subtly imply that if I think LLMs are intelligent, I’m probably actually just a bit stupid? Because I would be more than happy to go head to head with you on academic and professional pedigree and credentials. I notice you also ignore my comment that you seem to be replying to and instead post your response here. But did you have any answer to the question I asked? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49776482 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49776482

slopinthebag 6d ago
would this imply llms aren't intelligent because they have no academic or professional pedigree or credentials? :P
- daishi55 6d ago
  Oh no I meant to compare myself to the person I am talking to, because I believe my credentials and pedigree ought to convince them that I am a pretty smart guy and so the argument “if you think LLMs are intelligent then you’re dumb” doesn’t ring true for me.
  - mrguyorama 5d ago
    Your credentials and pedigree seem to be "Self taught @ Meta"
vhantz 6d ago
You don't need to prove to me that your intelligence is comparable to LLMs. I believe you.
- daishi55 6d ago
  Yeah you already tried that one. You’re hiding behind implications because your actual argument doesn’t withstand the slightest scrutiny. You have yet to respond to either of the points I made. Zero intellectual conviction or courage!
  - rpdillon 6d ago
    Yeah, his posting history isn't promising. He's been doing the "if you think you're as smart as an LLM, you're probably right" argument for a month now. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49315846 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49315846 I don't think you're gonna get much out of going back and forth here. For what it's worth, I disagree with you that they're intelligent, but my conviction is fairly low. I don't understand intelligence as well as I would like, and it could well be that we are on our way. One of my theories is that our brains are made up of several modules, each of which is something like an LLM trained on a particular type of data, but I'm not a neuroscientist, just an interested observer.
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    - daishi55 6d ago
      LOL! Very sad. And of course there is a lot of ambiguity and unknown here. But this guy I don’t think has the capacity to deal with that kind of subtlety.

slopinthebag 6d ago

would this imply llms aren't intelligent because they have no academic or professional pedigree or credentials? :P

daishi55 6d ago
Oh no I meant to compare myself to the person I am talking to, because I believe my credentials and pedigree ought to convince them that I am a pretty smart guy and so the argument “if you think LLMs are intelligent then you’re dumb” doesn’t ring true for me.
- mrguyorama 5d ago
  Your credentials and pedigree seem to be "Self taught @ Meta"

vhantz 6d ago

You don't need to prove to me that your intelligence is comparable to LLMs. I believe you.

daishi55 6d ago
Yeah you already tried that one. You’re hiding behind implications because your actual argument doesn’t withstand the slightest scrutiny. You have yet to respond to either of the points I made. Zero intellectual conviction or courage!
- rpdillon 6d ago
  Yeah, his posting history isn't promising. He's been doing the "if you think you're as smart as an LLM, you're probably right" argument for a month now. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49315846 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49315846 I don't think you're gonna get much out of going back and forth here. For what it's worth, I disagree with you that they're intelligent, but my conviction is fairly low. I don't understand intelligence as well as I would like, and it could well be that we are on our way. One of my theories is that our brains are made up of several modules, each of which is something like an LLM trained on a particular type of data, but I'm not a neuroscientist, just an interested observer.
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  - daishi55 6d ago
    LOL! Very sad. And of course there is a lot of ambiguity and unknown here. But this guy I don’t think has the capacity to deal with that kind of subtlety.