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It's not going to matter unless you plan to commercially deploy the model, as far as I see. If you were to generate outputs for commercial use, I think it woul

It's not going to matter unless you plan to commercially deploy the model, as far as I see. If you were to generate outputs for commercial use, I think it would still violate this research license, but it's not like they are going to know, are they? That said, I am disappointed that the model is not actually open-weights as I expected based on the headline.

soulofmischief 6d ago
It could have an attempt at steganographic watermarking trained into the model.
- iwontberude 6d ago
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Tanjreeve 6d ago
That seems quite important. Definitely requires any grown up company to have to do a bunch of legal paperwork to use it.
CamperBob2 6d ago
It's not going to matter unless you plan to commercially deploy the model, as far as I see. It's not going to matter then, either. What are they going to do, sue me for copyright infringement?
- KeplerBoy 6d ago
  Yes? If you deploy the model and provide it on Openrouter (or elsewhere) you better have a license.
  - CamperBob2 6d ago
    No need to deploy it publicly. It's 7B, it'll run on a 3090.
    - KeplerBoy 6d ago
      You talked about commercially deploying it. Of course nobody cares what you are doing on your own hardware for fun.
      - CamperBob2 6d ago
        Usually the way the licenses are interpreted, if I run it myself and use it to generate $X million in revenue in my own business, I'm subject to the license. In this case, the license seems to cover any commercial usage at all, which would certainly include self-hosting for internal business purposes. Why even bother demanding such terms? Release the weights or don't release the weights, but this is silly. No one is going to pay them to run or host a 7B static image model.
        nozzlegear 6d ago
        Why not? If it's cheap enough, and presuming I had any reason to use an image model, I'd consider paying for it on OpenRouter over hosting it myself.
    - finnjohnsen2 5d ago
      yes, but it uses 17gb VRAM when running a 50 inference steps generation from prompt. Which is more than I expected since a 7B model sounds little.
  - bdonlan 6d ago
    It’s not entirely clear far part of a model would be copyrightable in the first place - it’s the result of a mechanical process, where the inputs are someone else’s copyrighted works, after all, while copyright requires some form of creative input.
    - johnnyApplePRNG 5d ago
      It's called a transformative work. And it is indeed copyrightable or it's able to be protected legally, if that's what you're wondering?
    - KeplerBoy 5d ago
      True, but my pockets aren't deep enough to be the one who wants to figure that out in court.

soulofmischief 6d ago

It could have an attempt at steganographic watermarking trained into the model.

iwontberude 6d ago
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Tanjreeve 6d ago

That seems quite important. Definitely requires any grown up company to have to do a bunch of legal paperwork to use it.

CamperBob2 6d ago

It's not going to matter unless you plan to commercially deploy the model, as far as I see. It's not going to matter then, either. What are they going to do, sue me for copyright infringement?

KeplerBoy 6d ago
Yes? If you deploy the model and provide it on Openrouter (or elsewhere) you better have a license.
- CamperBob2 6d ago
  No need to deploy it publicly. It's 7B, it'll run on a 3090.
  - KeplerBoy 6d ago
    You talked about commercially deploying it. Of course nobody cares what you are doing on your own hardware for fun.
    - CamperBob2 6d ago
      Usually the way the licenses are interpreted, if I run it myself and use it to generate $X million in revenue in my own business, I'm subject to the license. In this case, the license seems to cover any commercial usage at all, which would certainly include self-hosting for internal business purposes. Why even bother demanding such terms? Release the weights or don't release the weights, but this is silly. No one is going to pay them to run or host a 7B static image model.
      - nozzlegear 6d ago
        Why not? If it's cheap enough, and presuming I had any reason to use an image model, I'd consider paying for it on OpenRouter over hosting it myself.
  - finnjohnsen2 5d ago
    yes, but it uses 17gb VRAM when running a 50 inference steps generation from prompt. Which is more than I expected since a 7B model sounds little.
- bdonlan 6d ago
  It’s not entirely clear far part of a model would be copyrightable in the first place - it’s the result of a mechanical process, where the inputs are someone else’s copyrighted works, after all, while copyright requires some form of creative input.
  - johnnyApplePRNG 5d ago
    It's called a transformative work. And it is indeed copyrightable or it's able to be protected legally, if that's what you're wondering?
  - KeplerBoy 5d ago
    True, but my pockets aren't deep enough to be the one who wants to figure that out in court.