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Presumably someone was paid when the content was created. So it's not really the labor that's being stolen, but the future value of the deliverable. I'm pretty

Presumably someone was paid when the content was created. So it's not really the labor that's being stolen, but the future value of the deliverable. I'm pretty sure any of the eras of slavery throughout human history is more of an actual theft of labor.

andybak 15d ago
A huge chunk of the content that was scraped was most likely provided voluntarily rather than being waged labour.
- sandeepkd 15d ago
  Either way, a change did happen, financial impact aside this change is definitely going to disrupt the ecosystem as a whole which is a much bigger unknown at this point. > A huge chunk of the content that was scraped was most likely provided voluntarily rather than being waged labour. People committing work get rewards in different ways, waged labour could be one, attributions, acknowledgements, future job opportunities and more. Stripping those from the rightful owners can hardly be justified in the name of progress.
  - andybak 15d ago
    I wasn't implying that it was okay to "steal" things because they were offered voluntarily. My position on this is kind of complex and nuanced but this particular reply was meant to state the opposite.
thibaut_barrere 15d ago
This is not how authors rights work
- charcircuit 15d ago
  Violating authors rights and stealing labor are different things.
  - VanTheBrand 15d ago
    all depends on how you define the terms
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toofy 15d ago
> So it's not really the labor that's being stolen, but the future value of the deliverable. the choice was stolen as well. the agency was stolen as well.
- jamienk 15d ago
  When we sing, draw, speak, play, we are not attacking the soul of someone else! Culture has always had a kind of violence to it, but not FROM the THIEF: you HAVE to speak the language that was already made; you have to understand and participate in their song-structures, their plot devices, their ways of attesting. The "IP owners" should be paying ME!!!
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andybak 15d ago

A huge chunk of the content that was scraped was most likely provided voluntarily rather than being waged labour.

sandeepkd 15d ago
Either way, a change did happen, financial impact aside this change is definitely going to disrupt the ecosystem as a whole which is a much bigger unknown at this point. > A huge chunk of the content that was scraped was most likely provided voluntarily rather than being waged labour. People committing work get rewards in different ways, waged labour could be one, attributions, acknowledgements, future job opportunities and more. Stripping those from the rightful owners can hardly be justified in the name of progress.
- andybak 15d ago
  I wasn't implying that it was okay to "steal" things because they were offered voluntarily. My position on this is kind of complex and nuanced but this particular reply was meant to state the opposite.

thibaut_barrere 15d ago

This is not how authors rights work

charcircuit 15d ago
Violating authors rights and stealing labor are different things.
- VanTheBrand 15d ago
  all depends on how you define the terms
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toofy 15d ago

> So it's not really the labor that's being stolen, but the future value of the deliverable. the choice was stolen as well. the agency was stolen as well.

jamienk 15d ago
When we sing, draw, speak, play, we are not attacking the soul of someone else! Culture has always had a kind of violence to it, but not FROM the THIEF: you HAVE to speak the language that was already made; you have to understand and participate in their song-structures, their plot devices, their ways of attesting. The "IP owners" should be paying ME!!!
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