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WTF? Have some humility towards someone who took the time to talk about their work. And made intellectual progress. Air your LLM greviences someplace else.
by unified101 16d ago
WTF? Have some humility towards someone who took the time to talk about their work. And made intellectual progress.
Air your LLM greviences someplace else.
- GPerson 16d agoNope I’m airing them right here. This guy didn’t do any work except tell the bot to continue for a month. That’s not work, that’s just unhealthy and negative. He’s made no intellectual progress. He doesn’t even know any mathematics and has never cared to learn. He’s just lucky other people are there and kind enough to let him dump his slop onto. They could have done this and gotten a lot more out of it.
- zozbot234 16d agoYou can definitely argue that the user's direction and curation work was intellectually trivial (though there's meaningful room for disagreement even there, especially wrt. having the AI stick to established terminology/broad approaches - this is arguably a sort of successful "systematizing" work, though only in a very minimal sense) but this was not a one-shotted result. The blog post is extremely clear about that. And of course, going by their own admission, they couldn't "have done this themselves": the most you can argue wrt. this is that Mantova and L'Innocente, or some other narrow domain experts, might have done this themselves and that AI "scooped" this result from them.
- GPerson 16d agoNobody said it was one-shotted? It was mindlessly “continue-shotted” except for the brilliant idea of upgrading the model. Obviously the models are going to be improved to the point where typing continue continue, how ya feeling, continue continue, okay let’s double check this, upgrade model, continue continue, will be less necessary.
- unified101 16d agoThe direction of continue shotting will develop a new culture that lead to a much more wider understanding for humans in the field of math. Find a way to accept this new culture and you'll thrive.
- GPerson 16d agoIt won’t. It will lead to a culture which makes it impossible to actually spend a life learning mathematics deeply.
- unified101 16d agoIt will. you just lack imagination.
- GPerson 16d agoIt won’t. You just have no idea how the world actually works.
- unified101 16d agoIt will. you lack imagination, and have a unnecessary high opinion of yourself.
- GPerson 16d agoIt won’t. I don’t.
- unified101 16d agoI apologize to GPerson for needlessly trying to convince him to my point of view. He seems to be an smart person deeply affected by how LLM are affecting his vocation and work. It was wrong of me to do this and I will take a break from this website for one week.