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Exactly. I would want: -Phone/texting -Messengers like WhatsApp/Telegram/etc. -Maps -Music/podcasts Ideally with e-ink. I want something that doesn't compet

Exactly. I would want: -Phone/texting -Messengers like WhatsApp/Telegram/etc. -Maps -Music/podcasts Ideally with e-ink. I want something that doesn't compete with a full-fledged smartphone (which I'd still keep for travel and stuff). I want something to take to the office, hanging out with friends, etc, where bringing the smartphone becomes a decision.

wink 15d ago
I think if you ask 5 people what dumb (enough) phone meant you'd get seven answers. For some anything after SMS is not dumb enough (ok, this still exists), others would be ok with just a browser, and you said Maps and WA/etc/. I am not even sure I could give you a good enough definition, I'm kinda happy enough with Android and just ignore any dumb/minimal angle, because if I only take a phone with me I generally want to potentially use it as a computer replacement. There are really only 2 people I call regularly.
- FinnLobsien 15d ago
  > I think if you ask 5 people what dumb (enough) phone meant you'd get seven answers. Yes, but I think anyone interested in this would know what they don't want: TikTok, Instagram, Reddit, YouTube, or any other app that wants you to spend maximum time in their app. Unless we're talking about complete purists who basically want a 2003 level phone that only does call/text, there's lots of flexibility. Someone who wants a less addicting phone but doesn't necessarily require maps is unlikely to not buy because of a maps app. It's not like they'd spend 3 hours a day getting directions.
- what 14d ago
  I honestly don’t think you’d get that much variation. Beyond phone/sms, the list would likely end up with just these: - decent camera - messaging apps (WhatsApp/telegram/signal/etc) - email - maps - rideshare (uber/lyft) - mobile wallet (tap to pay) People will also demand a browser, but that kind of defeats the purpose. All the apps should be utilities that you can’t spend hours in. I suspect people would also demand music streaming, but I’m not sure really why you need that.
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wink 15d ago

I think if you ask 5 people what dumb (enough) phone meant you'd get seven answers. For some anything after SMS is not dumb enough (ok, this still exists), others would be ok with just a browser, and you said Maps and WA/etc/. I am not even sure I could give you a good enough definition, I'm kinda happy enough with Android and just ignore any dumb/minimal angle, because if I only take a phone with me I generally want to potentially use it as a computer replacement. There are really only 2 people I call regularly.

FinnLobsien 15d ago
> I think if you ask 5 people what dumb (enough) phone meant you'd get seven answers. Yes, but I think anyone interested in this would know what they don't want: TikTok, Instagram, Reddit, YouTube, or any other app that wants you to spend maximum time in their app. Unless we're talking about complete purists who basically want a 2003 level phone that only does call/text, there's lots of flexibility. Someone who wants a less addicting phone but doesn't necessarily require maps is unlikely to not buy because of a maps app. It's not like they'd spend 3 hours a day getting directions.
what 14d ago
I honestly don’t think you’d get that much variation. Beyond phone/sms, the list would likely end up with just these: - decent camera - messaging apps (WhatsApp/telegram/signal/etc) - email - maps - rideshare (uber/lyft) - mobile wallet (tap to pay) People will also demand a browser, but that kind of defeats the purpose. All the apps should be utilities that you can’t spend hours in. I suspect people would also demand music streaming, but I’m not sure really why you need that.

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